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1 posted on 11/09/2008 9:18:51 AM PST by Fred
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Its two major provisions would let prospective members sign union cards instead of waiting to hold secret ballot elections to unionize workers at a company,

And those who refuse to sign get their cars torched later that night.

2 posted on 11/09/2008 9:21:11 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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So hey why have secret ballots when we are voting in elections either...

I mean if you didn’t vote for Obama you are obviously an idiot who hates change, and a racist, bigot who loves Bush...

Maybe all future election ballots will be available online so that those that vote against the Supreme leader will be marked and “TAKEN CARE OF”


3 posted on 11/09/2008 9:22:03 AM PST by tomnbeverly (Obamanation, here comes the pogrom against Conservatives.)
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Great idea, if there is any employment after Øbama’s tax increase stagnate the economy


4 posted on 11/09/2008 9:22:17 AM PST by Son House (Democrats Now Get Their Chance To Prove They Are "Good For The Economy")
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To: Fred

Money has taken over our elections. I believe one way to fix this is to have people donate to a central place....take the money and split it between candidates...all of them. If they run out of money...so be it.


5 posted on 11/09/2008 9:23:07 AM PST by RC2
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It is payback time, of course. Will this be another example of well-established “Clintonism”? Will the Dims start to see the error of their ways with unions sooner, rather than later? GM is now begging for help from the American taxpayer because of their horrid decision to pander to their unions and build a welfare state that has bankrupted them?

Does the liberal madness just continue? Remember that libs will DO ANYTHING for a vote....no matter what the cost.


6 posted on 11/09/2008 9:24:15 AM PST by EagleUSA
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Yes, and when those “white middle class” voters in battleground states start seeing employers moving out or closing their doors . . . then what?

Some people never learn and others have to always learn the hard way.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 9:27:18 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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"bolster their negotiating power with employers "

You can't "bolster" what doesn't exist.

Unions mean higher costs and lower output for employers. Unionization is localized socialism with the ultimate goal of "spreading the wealth" among its members, thereby killing the incentive for individual performance and achievement.

The employers will take one of two steps to fight this:

(1) Move offshore

(2) Layoffs/shutdowns

More of the lefts fabled "unintended consequences".

We need four years of "Atlas Shrugged" mode among conservatives...
8 posted on 11/09/2008 9:27:20 AM PST by FrankR (Let's sit back and watch the show - popcorn anyone?)
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First groups in this country who need to unionize with the Obamarama on a roll are Doctors and Nurses.

Obama's website, and his campaign flaks, say he intends to pay for universal medical insurance (if not medical care) with COST SAVINGS, and that's always going to mean the salaries of the doctors and nurses.

I think I could organize Fairfax County, for example, faster than almost any retail chain or manufacturing operation now that the Democrats have shown their hand.

10 minutes tops. Collect the representation cards as they leave the buildings at the end of the shifts.

I am sure a Medical Providers union not affiliated with the mamby-pamby buttkissers over at the AFL-CIO could negotiate some interesting payraises that'd make Obama-Care at least twice as costly as the present system.

9 posted on 11/09/2008 9:28:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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How on Gods green earth is this supposed to work in this economy. They have to extend unemployment benefits when these systems already lack the money to do this. This is not the time to do this.


10 posted on 11/09/2008 9:28:40 AM PST by Lady GOP
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Unions are not going to be able to change economic reality. They can change the law to allow Union leaders to hold shotguns on employees when they vote and it will do nothing but gain them the resentment of employees. I am sure employees will be happy when they go out on strike and their teetering company goes under because of it and they are jobless.

I am sure it will be great when they are forced to unionize and the factory immediately moves to Thailand with their jobs. You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.
11 posted on 11/09/2008 9:28:58 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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How much did the United Mine Workers give to Obama to commit economic suicide?


12 posted on 11/09/2008 9:29:31 AM PST by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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I think a decline in orders for anything sold or manufactured in Pennsylvania and/or Ohio would be in order; maybe they'll figure out how to make it on liberal "dollars" alone.

I'm thinking I should concentrate my buying power [which ain't much] to states that supported conservatism.

These manufacturers being extorted by the union should move to another state...or just out of the country.
14 posted on 11/09/2008 9:30:40 AM PST by FrankR (Let's sit back and watch the show - popcorn anyone?)
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labor unions, having helped Barack Obama win the presidency, entertain high hopes he will enact their agenda to bolster their negotiating power with employers “

What of if these employers go out of business from the insane Labor Union demands, like Ford and GM are about to do right now?
Who will the Labor Unions use their Obambi inspired gangster, strong arm tactics on? Empty factories , run by non-existent managers?
Labor Unions might do well to remember that the best paying outfits like Microsoft, Apple, etc don't even have any unions, and they have far better conditions of work that the unionized companies.

15 posted on 11/09/2008 9:31:20 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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Other labor leaders sought to dampen the notion they were owed something by the incoming administration.

If we're lucky, Obama will be mostly business-as-usual in DC. Some of the crooks are smart enough to know that you can't slay the golden goose and get all the eggs at once. Let's hope they are listened to.

16 posted on 11/09/2008 9:31:30 AM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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Instead of “unprecedented” leverage, the unions have absolutely no leverage.

Where else can they go?

Obama wrote a lot of checks he can’t cover, and this measure is one which is likely to be shuffled to the deck as soon as any other. Afterall, big labor only represents 7% of the electorate. In addition, the unions have unprecedented experience in spinning defeats in labor conflicts into “victories”. Deferring completion of this promise won’t be as costly as others.


17 posted on 11/09/2008 9:34:40 AM PST by I_Like_Spam
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This legislation may not fly with the southern blue dog dems. They have lots of non-union factories and auto plants. The foreign owned auto assembly plants will just close shop and move overseas. The unions have been able to hold the gun to American manufacturers but the foreigners will not tolerate it.

Lots of jobs and votes to be lost as a result.


22 posted on 11/09/2008 9:43:56 AM PST by biff
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The Unions for the big three Auto industry are responsible for destroying all three industries. No bailout for them. All the bailout will do is fee the huge employee benefits. The Unions are like hungry leeches.
23 posted on 11/09/2008 9:47:28 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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Clearly secret ballots are un-American.

Voting should be open, your choice should flash on a board when you vote, that way there's no possibility of fraud, brownshirts will be at least a hundred yards away, and your vote will be posted on the internet, using the bandwith saved by not disclosing the names of under $200 contributors.

24 posted on 11/09/2008 9:47:31 AM PST by SJackson (http://www.jewish-history.com/emporium/)
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Boy is Burger going to be surprised if she really thinks American workers won the election. What American workers really won is the ‘right’ to pay the expenses for American non-workers.


27 posted on 11/09/2008 10:17:05 AM PST by ArmstedFragg
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With GM and Ford tanking, they’ll be lucky to have jobs. With the housing market tanking, they’ll be lucky to have jobs. I predict less production and more unemployment.


31 posted on 11/09/2008 11:11:56 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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