Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Robert F Kennedy, hypocrite (not breaking news)
10 November 2008 | vanity

Posted on 11/09/2008 8:28:42 PM PST by Lorianne

Quoth Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on September 15, 2008 on the Huffington Post in criticism of Governor Sarah Palin:

Fascist writer Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist who Sarah Palin approvingly quoted in her acceptance speech for the moral superiority of small town values, expressed his fervent hope about my father, Robert F. Kennedy, as he contemplated his own run for the presidency in 1965, that “some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/governor-palins-reading-l_b_126478.html?page=32&show_comment_id=15725640#comment_15725640

Yet the same Robert F Kennedy, to my knowledge, hasn't said boo about Bill Ayers' dedication of his book "Prairie Fire" to Sirhan Sirhan (and has publically called Sirhan a hero) .... the man who actually shot and killed his father!

Unbelievable!

More on Ayers and his book Prairie Fire:

http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2008/10/bill-ayers-sirhan-sirhan-and-prairie.html


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ayers; bho2008; bookreview; kennedy; kennedyfamily; matthewscully; obama; obamatransitionfile; pegler; prairiefire; rfkjr; sirhansirhan; westbrookpegler

1 posted on 11/09/2008 8:28:42 PM PST by Lorianne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

The guy is not only a lawyer but an environmental lawyer. You REALLY expect ethics?


2 posted on 11/09/2008 8:31:12 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

Don’t know anything about this guy Palin may have quoted,but I do know the democrats revere a scumbag racist in Robert Byrd.


3 posted on 11/09/2008 8:32:08 PM PST by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

Well Bobby Jr. that didn’t happen, but what did IIRC was that some Syrian Muslim spattered RFK’s brains all over a kitchen in California. OH Well. better luck next time.


4 posted on 11/09/2008 8:36:32 PM PST by DaiHuy (')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

I regret to say that a Leftist Separatist who was a racist named Sirhan shot and killed Robert Kennedy. And we know that Joseph Kennedy was a supporter of Adolf Hitler and traded with him


5 posted on 11/09/2008 8:40:12 PM PST by realcleanguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Williams

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westbrook_Pegler

Take it with a grain of salt...seems he was “with it” (anti fasicst andanit communist) until later in age...maybe he suffered some nurocous

Palin read a speech written by Matthew Scully that contained the quote....

Typical liberal attack while ignoring the terrorist standing next to him...


6 posted on 11/09/2008 8:41:36 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

Yes, it’s true , Palin quoted this guy in what may have been the only innocuous words he ever wrote. She didn’t mention him by name, and I’m sure wouldn’t have used the quote if she knew what a real fascist bigot he actually was. Wonder if she wrote the speech herself, or who it was who fed her the quote. Either way, it does indicate a little naivete on her part. And I’m surprised to hear Westbrook Pegler was still writing and apparently being read in the mid 60s. He was a relic by that time.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 8:41:48 PM PST by supremedoctrine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

Nice pickup there on Sirhan Sirhan.

Of coruse RFK got his started working for Joe McCarthy, a man whom he deeply admired.


8 posted on 11/09/2008 8:42:48 PM PST by Numbers Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Numbers Guy

All the charges of socialist, marxist, communist that were hurled at Obama this election, and not one peep about McCarthyism that I’m aware. Weird.


9 posted on 11/09/2008 8:45:56 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

Yet this clown will be a cabinet member for Obama who’s sugar daddy Bill Ayers dedicated a book to his father’s murderer.

Way to go RFK, Jr.


10 posted on 11/09/2008 8:47:59 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Doctor Raoul

Yes, politics makes strange bedfellows indeed ... but this is really sick.


11 posted on 11/09/2008 8:53:36 PM PST by Lorianne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Crim

And it turns out Matthew Scully wrote that part of the speech quite a bit before Sarah Palin was chosen as the running mate. Interestingly, Matthew Scully is as unstereotypical a Republican as Palin is, and is known for being ferociously opposed to hunters, and all forms of what could be considered animal cruelty, for profit or otherwise.He wrote a very well received book called DOMINION. So he almost seems the worst fit possible to author a Sarah Palin speech. Almost looks like a setup were it not for the abovementioned fact of the timing.


12 posted on 11/09/2008 8:55:27 PM PST by supremedoctrine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: supremedoctrine

If said timing is true. Who’s word do we take on that?


13 posted on 11/09/2008 9:13:43 PM PST by Lorianne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne
Seems to me that the value of any quote is in the words themselves - what do they say?
Not necessarily in the reputation or fact of the person who originally uttered them:

Anyone know the quote that everyone is referring to?

14 posted on 11/09/2008 9:21:07 PM PST by norton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

RFK Jr. is really a demented moonbat, if his name wasn’t Kennedy he would be masturbating on his keyboard and posting vanities with 4-Letter words on DU.


15 posted on 11/09/2008 9:23:13 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: word_warrior_bob

What makes you think he doesn’t?


16 posted on 11/09/2008 9:26:24 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: facedown

LOL, you’re probably right, have you ever heard this guy? He’s unhinged?, I think even Ted is embarrassed by him.


17 posted on 11/09/2008 9:29:13 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: realcleanguy

Sirhan Sirhan was a Palestinan, pulled off the first real big Muslim terrorist job by killing RFK, history has been re-written. Much as it’s been re-written that a Marxist-Leninist DIDN’T kill JFK. Lee Harvey Oswald, an ex-Marine with a rifle, fueled by his Marxist-Leninism and delusions of grandeur killed JFK.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 9:32:54 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: supremedoctrine
Either way, it does indicate a little naivete on her part.

There are millions and millions of facts and quotes about all kinds of things in this world today that might come up about countless subjects, political or otherwise. Who can keep track of even an eighth of them. Do you really think that everybody who is not naive would have recognized this particular quote? Sarah Palin was running from one place to the next almost everyday in a whirlwind of activity. She certainly did not have time to research every statement handed to her in her speeches. She should of been able to trust the writers, that they were not putting things into the speeches that were sourced from fascist bigots.

19 posted on 11/09/2008 9:32:56 PM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: word_warrior_bob

RFK Jr. was convicted on drug charges years ago. To listen to him talk, I think that the drugs affected his mind and his throat.


20 posted on 11/09/2008 9:36:58 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: norton
Interest in Pegler was revived when a line originally written by him appeared in Republican Vice-Presidential nominee Sarah Palin's acceptance speech at the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota.[6] "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity", she said, attributing it to "a writer."[11] The speech was written by Matthew Scully, a senior speech writer for George W. Bush.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westbrook_Pegler

21 posted on 11/09/2008 9:41:34 PM PST by Lorianne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: word_warrior_bob
...if his name wasn’t Kennedy he would be masturbating on his keyboard and posting vanities with 4-Letter words on DU.

Objection, your honor. Assumes facts not in evidence.

22 posted on 11/09/2008 9:49:12 PM PST by Bob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: supremedoctrine

I doubt she ever knew who this “writer” was she quoted in her speech. If she were to vet every word of every speechwriter she’d never make it to the podium.

Yes, she was ‘naive’. She didn’t realize that in politics some on your side are cannibals, they’ll eat their own, for their own reasons.

I think she has realized that now, but it’s too late for 2008. Hopefully, if she plans a further national political career, she’ll be able to find loyal people and she’ll get tough on those who set her up or cause her to stumble, ‘cause those people will still be around next time.

In other words, she’ll have to become a ruthless, conniving old boot, a la Hilary Clinton and all the rest of them. Then she won’t be ‘Sarah from Wasilla’ anymore. But she just might get elected.


23 posted on 11/09/2008 9:49:43 PM PST by Lorianne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: word_warrior_bob

now, a Marxist-Leninist is our president. How ironic


24 posted on 11/09/2008 9:56:20 PM PST by realcleanguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

*will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies*

I couldn’t help but snicker a little when reading this part. I guess I’m going straight to Hell.

But hey, Camelot Part II, here we come. Does Obama have a brother who could be AG? Oh, yeah, he does! And I hear he works cheap, too!


25 posted on 11/09/2008 10:04:15 PM PST by j-damn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

The Kennedy clan suffers from severe inbreeding. That’s the only thing that can explain the entire family acting like retarded salamanders.


26 posted on 11/09/2008 10:28:44 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah. Kneel before Obamohammad.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: norton
Seems to me that the value of any quote is in the words themselves - what do they say?

Not necessarily in the reputation or fact of the person who originally uttered them:

I don't know about that, do you think we should be quoting a slave owner, and the sexual molester of his slaves just because he wrote, "all men are created equal..."?


27 posted on 11/09/2008 10:46:46 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: word_warrior_bob

I think Sirhan Sirhan was a Christian.


28 posted on 11/09/2008 11:52:48 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: nathanbedford
I don't know about that, do you think we should be quoting a slave owner, and the sexual molester of his slaves just because he wrote, "all men are created equal..."?

Or a married womanizer for expounding on content of character?

29 posted on 11/09/2008 11:54:40 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

“Fascist writer Westbrook Pegler”

Pegler was a rather racist, right-wing writer, which disqualifies him from fascism.

Most Kennedys, I fear, are swine.


30 posted on 11/10/2008 12:12:47 AM PST by 4buttons
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

this Robert F Kennedy = a dishonor to his name.


31 posted on 11/10/2008 12:14:03 AM PST by VlPu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: word_warrior_bob
RFK Jr. is really a demented moonbat, if his name wasn’t Kennedy he would be masturbating on his keyboard and posting vanities with 4-Letter words on DU.

Prove that he's not...

32 posted on 11/10/2008 12:14:39 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: realcleanguy

“I regret to say that a Leftist Separatist who was a racist named Sirhan shot and killed Robert Kennedy. “

Rather a palestinian who was easy to hypnotize to shoot RFK, using the support of RFK for military support of Israel.
By the way, of course he was not the only shooter.


33 posted on 11/10/2008 12:25:08 AM PST by VlPu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: word_warrior_bob
...I think even Ted is embarrassed by him.

To be capable of embarrassment, one must have shame.

34 posted on 11/10/2008 5:43:02 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower; Lorianne

Sarah Palin has and had no bigger fan than me.
I never idealized her, or romanticized her, I just
took her for what he was, and the way she presented herself, from the moment of introduction onwards, was refreshingly cast in the mode of “this is who I am, this is what I’ve done, this is my family, take it or leave it.”
As straightforward as that was, it was something I have never seen before, except for Ronald Reagan, but Reagan was infinitely more familiar “as a commodity” by 1979 to Americans than Sarah was two-three months ago. It’s no big insight at this point to recognize that a huge number of votes gravitated to McCain because Sarah was on the ticket.
There was even a joke about worrying whether McCain was going to be a drag on the ticket. As it turned out, yes he was.For all I know, Matthew Scully, being an animal rights zealot, dropped this little stinkbomb in the speech just in order to cast doubt on Sarah and show her as a bigot once the source was revealed. Yep, coulda been a plot, and we could find Matthew Scully gaining employment as speechwriter for Team Obama in the future.He could be the new David Brock. OTOH, he could have sullied his reputation forever by using the Pegler quote. The fact that the McCain campaign used him, though he’s avowedly Republican, wrote for Bush, etc., shows just how sloppily they continue to reach across the aisle. I value independent thinking above all else, but isn’t there a little cognitive dissonance between the book DOMINION and giving a speech written by the author of that book to Sarah Palin, wellknown Moose hunter from Alaska? Just how naive and amateurish are these campaign honchos and deciders that they couldn’t see the negative possibilities there? Having said all that, given the tone of the past two months, I am surprised the MSM did not make more of this: the first I heard of it was yesterday, and that was here, on Free Republic. Turns out RK, Jr. brought it up the moment he heard it, on my birthday on 9-15.I am sure someone informed him of it and told him who Pegler was.
RFK is a true loose cannon himself,and a hyperzealot who will no doubt be put in the Obama Adminstration. (MONTHS AGO, he was apopletically calling for all those Global Warming Skeptics to be considered to be literal “traitors”.) Maybe too much else was going on for the MSM to have latched onto this little bit of arcana. I doubt if ANY of them except those well into their 60s would even recognize the name
Westbrook Pegler. He’s even fading fast in my memory, sort of like Father Coughlin, his counterpart in the Church.
Yes, I think Sarah has a real future in national politics.
Given what a normal person she is, or seems to be, I wouldn’t want to advise her or assume to know what’s in her heart. One of you mentioned that to re-enter she’s inevitably have to get more aggressive, become more like Hillary, and get elected that way. Maybe so. Would she still be Sarah? SHOULD she still be Sarah? The key to how this whole experience of the past months hit her may be revealed tonight in her interview w/ Greta vonSusteren on Fox. Either way, I think Sarah made an unprecedented kind of impression on the American people in the short time she had in the spotlight.I think tens of millions of us love her and respect her. And I think she was rather cynically manipulated by her “boss”, McCain, the RINO, not because he likes to exploit or manipulate, but because he wanted to revive a campaign he saw had so much stacked against it.
They made FATAL mistakes in how they handled her, almost sacrificing her on the altar of Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric, but that just shows you what’s wrong with The Mind of McCain, for him to let that happen, or maybe encourage it.I wouldn’t expect Palin to say anything negative about him tonight, she’s too classy for that. For Sarah to win the Presidency in 2012, she 1 . Has to want it herself, first and foremost, 2. Has to do NOTHING BUT GO TO THE PEOPLE, the way she SHOULD have been allowed to in September and October, INSTEAD of being shredded by the MSM
who, as we know, think it’s “all about them”. I would hate to think that McCain has ruined it for her and for all time for Conservatism to ever regain its power and influence in AMerica. The answer to that almost depends on Sarah, and a handful of others, and , of course, US.


35 posted on 11/10/2008 6:08:50 AM PST by supremedoctrine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Arthur McGowan

I think Sirhan Sirhan was a Christian.

___________

He was a Palestinian Terrorist.


36 posted on 11/10/2008 12:49:46 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: VlPu

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

______________

You’re buying the left wing spin.

Sirhan Sirhan was a Palestinian Terrorist and killed RFK alone. Marxist-Leninist Lee Harvey Oswald, who renounced his American Citizenship, tried to assassinate General Edwin A. Walker, and was a delusional attention whore assassinated JFK, ALONE.

Read Case Closed by Gerald Posner.


37 posted on 11/10/2008 12:58:59 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

thanks - I’d forgotten that bit.


38 posted on 11/10/2008 1:07:19 PM PST by norton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: nathanbedford
It's up to you.
But when the Constitution was written slavery was the norm around the world, LOTS of people disagreed with it but to address it in founding the country would have denied ratification.
Meanwhile, "all men are created equal..." was ground breaking at the time and part of the foundation for last week's election.

So which had the greatest impact, the words or two specific elements among a lifetime of actions?

39 posted on 11/10/2008 1:20:25 PM PST by norton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson