Posted on 11/10/2008 12:19:47 PM PST by pissant
I've seen the claim that Pakistan was not allowing Americans to travel there in the '80's, but have not seen any actual evidence. Do you have any?
I agree.
I want to see his Vault Birth Certificate.
Reasons...not natural born or not, different name or info than presented on the publicly claimed COLB (fraud/felony).
I want to see his passport(s). How did he travel to Pakistan? Under Indonesian citizenship?
Who is this guy?
Actually I read the judges descision, which made more sense than just about anything Calpurnia has posted.
It’s BS, one of those fake charges that has contributed to the undermining of the case against Obie.
Too many cries of “wolf” took place and eventually, nothing, but nothing could stick.
For the record, Americans could easily travel to Pakistan in the 70’s and 80’s; there were no restriction apart from the usual be careful, especially after the US Embassy was sacked and a Marine and a diplo killed by a mob.
We cannot simply abandon our country. If ONE state would pass legislation (preferably either a large state or one that is early in the primary process) requiring eligibility before they can go on the ballot, it would eliminate this particular problem.”
IIRC, the party- in this case the DNC- is responsible for vetting the candidates.
I think that Howard Dean and a couple of other top DNC officials knew all along that NObama was/is a fraud/hoax.
They wanted power so badly they went along with this mess.
I want the issue cleared up= I think NObama was born in Kenya- and I want the DNC indicted for their behavior.
The DNC has done NOTHING to protect the American voters.
Roger that.
I’ll pass the word on to the several state legislators I personally know here.
Even if it doesn’t work this can be the real start of the opposition to Obama. Plus, who is going to fight for the Constitution? Without belief in the Constitution we’re nothing.”
Many here of FR are searching for a “new” party.
How about the Constitution Party- main subdivision= Free Republic.
Form on the left was created 11/01, per other versions I have seen posted here in more detail.
Funny how it could be NObama’s ORIGINAL BC, when he was born 08/1961
No. If the SC rules that he is not lawfully President, then no person need obey any directive from him or signed by him. All of his laws and acts become unconstitutional, and no Court may take any action to enforce anything.
There will be no crisis. Biden immediately becomes President - which is a different problem.
Can the SCOTUS demand his other supporting documents, like passport, transcripts, and college enrollment docs? (Because neither Kenya nor Indonesia is going to cooperate with any investigation, and maybe right now creating more fraudulent docs to bolster their boy.)”
I am also of the mind that the reason we have never seen his Occidental/Columbia/Harvard papers is because he was shown as a “Foreign” student, and he got FOREIGN AID to help him with the tuition. His personal circumstances sure didn’t lead to his having the funds on his own. I think he is shown as INDONESIAN.
And when you consider that his Kenyan grandmother claims to recall his birth in Kenya, it’s awfully hard to take his assurances at face value.
But oh so easy to take her’s?”
What dog does she have in this fight?
She is only hurting him by telling the truth. She is saving the USA by telling the truth.
Yes. But if Berg’s case was so weak that it was literally laughed out of the lower court then why should the Supreme Court demand them?”
I don’t believe for one minute that Berg was laughed out of the District Court.
I think a Democrap appointed Federal Judge didn’t want to rule on the hot potatie and passed it on. I think he knew Berg would not give up easily.
Maybe that’s why he picked Biden to begin with- talk about job security.
“The DNC paid the bills.
But doesn’t that make it even more puzzling? Why would DNC want to squander good money on a pointless legal fight, especially now that the election is over?
The original COLBs posted had problems, but the folded one released subsequently did not, AFAIK. Thus, the contents of that COLB presumably are correct, so the explanation for all his obfuscation does not lie in his not having been born in Hawaii or any component of that COLB that may have been embarrassing.
I think the problem relates to being adopted in Indonesia. If that happened and no one notified authorities, then original COLB never would have been altered. But I believe that any alteration in a child’s circumstances (such as being adopted by a new parent in Hawaii and taking their name, for example) has to be reflected on the newly issued certificate. See http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/amendment.html Thus, if BHO became Barry Soetoro, was adopted in Indonesia, thereby becoming an Indonesian citizen, if he had LEGALLY, prior to age 21, returned to Hawaii to restore his citizenship, I would think that his BC/COLB would then have to reflect this sequence of events, i.e., born in Hawaii as BHO, subsequently adopted, renamed, lost citizenship, returned, regained citizenship, renamed etc.
Maybe Joe Biden is Obama’s real Papa.
For the record, Americans could easily travel to Pakistan in the 70’s and 80’s; there were no restriction apart from the usual be careful, especially after the US Embassy was sacked and a Marine and a diplo killed by a mob”
I disagree.
Based on the MANY posts I have read over the past 4 months, Pakistan was a NO TRAVEL zone in 1980 for Americans. Especially on an American passport. He went there on an INDONESIAN passport according to what info I have been able to glean.
The INDONESIAN passport would tie in further with the idea that NObama was attending school at Occidental/Columbia/Harvard as a FOREIGN AID student.
All of the posts I have seen are completely unattributed- it's just posters saying that Americans couldn't travel to Pakistan, but providing no evidence for that claim.
To all: Obama is legally an American and threrfore allowed to run/win the POTUS
.....if he was not it would have been proven by Nov.3rd....
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