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Fight To Reveal Obama's Birth Certificate Continues
Evening Bulletin ^ | 11/9/08 | John Connelly

Posted on 11/10/2008 12:19:47 PM PST by pissant

Two of the plaintiffs in court cases against Sen. Barack Obama, the president-elect, are working to move their cases forward before his presidential inauguration.

Philip J. Berg, the attorney who filed suit against Mr. Obama challenging him to produce his original birth certificate to prove he meets the constitutional requirements to serve as U.S. president. Mr. Berg filed a Writ of Certiorari in the U.S. Supreme Court late in October, in an effort to force Mr. Obama to produce the document.

Accordingly, the U.S. Supreme Court has said that Mr. Obama, the DNC and all co-defendants are to respond to the writ, on or before Dec. 1.

The judge in Mr. Berg's original case ruled that Mr. Berg does not have standing to enforce the constitutional requirements on a presidential candidate. Mr. Berg appealed the ruling to the Supreme Court.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bc; berg; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; constitutionalcrises; falsepresident; larrysinclairslover; makeitstop; obama; obamagate; obamatransitionfile; phillipberg; savetheconstitution; savetherepublic
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Our Job #1 is to expose the marxist quisling before he takes office.
1 posted on 11/10/2008 12:19:47 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
Unfortunately this probably won't have any effect.

...The Sheeple have spoken.

2 posted on 11/10/2008 12:21:39 PM PST by T Lady (Palin-Jindal 2012)
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To: T Lady

Unless of course he was found to be lying. Then it will matter.


3 posted on 11/10/2008 12:23:38 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Something that needs to be done in every State in the next couple of years is to establish a legal requirement that ALL Candidates for every State Elected Office must prove their citizenship and qualifications before being allowed on the Ballot.

Voters do not vote for any Federal candidate, they are all Statewide candidates; Presidential Electors, Senators, and Congressmen. For Surrick to tell Berg that he had “no standing” to bring suit is a direct slap at every legitimate voter in the State, and should be overturned.

I will be contacting my State legislators, as well as the Governor and Secretary of State, to find out just what needs to be done to accomplish it here in PA. I suggest everyone should do the same in their own State. Make them live up to their own laws!

Dear (Legislator)

During the current election it has come to light that apparently there are no Federal or State Provisions to ensure a Presidential candidate’s eligibility before placing their name on any ballot. This came to light because Sen. Barack 0bama has steadfastly refused to provide a certified birth certificate showing that he qualifies as “Native Born” as required by Article II Section 1 of the US Constitution.

The applicable section is as follows:

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

Furthermore, in Sen. Obama’s case, there is good reason to believe he may have at some point renounced his US Citizenship and embraced foreign citizenship, even to the extent of traveling under a foreign passport.

There have been several challenges to Sen. Obama’s eligibility in numerous lawsuits filed across the Country. Should he win election, be elected by the Electoral College and sworn in, and then subsequently found to be ineligible, he would be a usurper and any actions, orders, etc. by him would be null and void. This would spawn a Constitution crisis.

Therefore I request that you submit legislation to the Pennsylvania Legislature that directs the Secretary of State prior to placing an individual’s name on the ballot in Pennsylvania, to verify a Presidential Candidate’s eligibility in accordance with Article II, Section 1 of the US Constitution by personally viewing and verifying certified birth records and to make a good faith attempt to determine if any subsequent actions pertaining to citizenship occurred. This would apply to all candidates for President, including incumbents.

We are required at several times in our life to present valid documentation for things as mundane as drivers licenses, passports, etc. The requirements of qualification for every State Elected Office should be met prior to acceptance to placement on the Ballot. Surely, requiring proof of eligibility for President, or any Elected Office in the State of Pennsylvania, should require as much.

Sincerely,

Full Name and Address

Feel free to copy and revise as needed.
_________________


4 posted on 11/10/2008 12:24:02 PM PST by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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To: pissant

I believe the Dems would amend the Constitution in record time..............or declare BO to be a US citizen by virtue of birth...........


5 posted on 11/10/2008 12:24:08 PM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: pissant

“No one, aside from Department of Health officials, has seen the original document. “

And where are these people now?

Somehow, Pissant, I just don’t see this thing coming to fruition. I hope I’m wrong though.


6 posted on 11/10/2008 12:24:47 PM PST by hoe_cake (" 'We the people' tell the government what to do, it doesn't tell us." Ronald Reagan)
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To: pissant

It wouldn’t matter now if they did. No court is going to remove him from office and even if they did we get Biden.


7 posted on 11/10/2008 12:25:25 PM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: Red Badger

Can’t amend the Constitution prior to inauguration. However, can you say President Biden? Because that is what will happen if Obama is found ineligible.


8 posted on 11/10/2008 12:25:57 PM PST by ComeUpHigher
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To: pissant

Thanks for keeping this afloat. We saw what not emphasizing this did for us. Might as well emphasize it. Nothing to lose now, is there? The fact remains that The Official President-Elect FOUGHT the release of his vault certificate. WHY?


9 posted on 11/10/2008 12:25:59 PM PST by Genoa
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To: pissant

Whether you voted for him or not, the proof of his U.S. citizenship should be a matter of complete zenith paramountcy.


10 posted on 11/10/2008 12:26:16 PM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: pissant

Good luck but I think there was more evidence of cover up with the Vince Foster suicide/murder than we have here and look where that got us. These people are protected by the media and their spin. It’s disgusting but a fact of life.


11 posted on 11/10/2008 12:26:53 PM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: ComeUpHigher

Biden would be marginally better, only because he’s a complete dufus..............


12 posted on 11/10/2008 12:27:15 PM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: pissant
the attack should be: "WHAT IS THERE TO HIDE?"

everyone understands that a birth certificate has no information that could be deemed sensitive, especially back in the 60s (prior to mandatory ssno assignment)

so... push the point... WHAT IS THERE TO HIDE?

13 posted on 11/10/2008 12:27:40 PM PST by sten
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To: saganite

They will if he’s not eligible. Nevertheless, there is a chance that he was born in Hawaii, and is a natural born citizen - yet the COLB he presented is a fraud (which it is). That is not just a lie, that is a felony.


14 posted on 11/10/2008 12:28:07 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ComeUpHigher

Why not, what have we got to lose?


15 posted on 11/10/2008 12:28:19 PM PST by no_go_lie
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To: pissant

I thought that there was another lawsuit, filed by a set of electors and Alan Keyes. I would think that electors and a candidate would most definitely have standing.


16 posted on 11/10/2008 12:28:28 PM PST by kidd
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To: pissant
Note to self: Check to see if API has released that tape yet.
17 posted on 11/10/2008 12:28:43 PM PST by Obadiah (NOMR! - Not One More RINO!)
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To: Genoa

But will the SCOTUS have the nerve to actually demand that he put up or shut up? They have no way of enforcing their decisions........


18 posted on 11/10/2008 12:29:11 PM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: T Lady
Unfortunately this probably won't have any effect.

...The Sheeple have spoken.

Yeah?

Here in California 4 judges' opinions trump 4,000,000 voters.

19 posted on 11/10/2008 12:29:11 PM PST by null and void (This isn't an election, it's a manifestation of a Salvador Dali painting. [Persistence of Division])
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To: pissant
Hope that something comes of this, but no real traction yet...

And I'm so sick and tired of the Obots posting that fake Certificate of Life Birth on FactCheck.org and saying it proves Obama was born in the US. Tha has been de-bunked more times than Bigfoot...

Any more update on those 24 electors filing suit to see Obama's vault copy birth certificate?

20 posted on 11/10/2008 12:29:16 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: pissant

I didn’t know Berg had any appeals left but I think this is a fight worth having, regardless of the chances. I guess we should send letters to our electors in our state pronto.


21 posted on 11/10/2008 12:29:35 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: ComeUpHigher

If BO is disqualified before the electors meet, they would be able to vote for anyone who is constitutionally qualified for POTUS. Might be fun! There would still be 365 D electors. But it wouldn’t have to be Biden. Might be HRC or whoever they like. If BO gets the boot after the electors have voted, then yes, we have a Biden succession scenario. Oh, BTW, if no one has 270 electoral votes for POTUS, the House gets to elect one. More fun!


22 posted on 11/10/2008 12:30:17 PM PST by Genoa
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To: pissant
Federal Civil Service require a US birth Certificate be presented before an employee and be put on the payroll.

maybe he won't get paid.

23 posted on 11/10/2008 12:30:49 PM PST by AU72
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To: what_not2007

“Somehow, Pissant, I just don’t see this thing coming to fruition. I hope I’m wrong though.”

I agree.
In the words of a wetback, “I don’t need no damn stinkin papers”.

Sad times for the new USSA.


24 posted on 11/10/2008 12:31:05 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: pissant

If it were ever proven that Obama is not a natural born citizen, the Democrat and media spin would be that our evil Constitution is inherently racist and needs to be changed (or be retroactively interpreted more “more broadly”) — and not one word of outrage that Obama deliberately defrauded the American people while by running for President while knowing all along that he is ineligible.

Obama’s credibility and character would not be called into question, except by those few who care about the Constitution, and those people would be demonized and marginalized as racist, reactionary kooks.

For the record, at this point I do not think it can be stated with assurance that Obama is not a natural-borne citizen. But when it would be such a simple matter to release the actual certified birth certificate, his refusal to do so, and his willingness to hire lawyers to prevent having to do so, sure do suggest he is hiding something. And when you consider that his Kenyan grandmother claims to recall his birth in Kenya, it’s awfully hard to take his assurances at face value.


25 posted on 11/10/2008 12:32:04 PM PST by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: pissant
Unless of course he was found to be lying. Then it will matter.

He lied almost every time he opened his mouth. It didn't matter.

26 posted on 11/10/2008 12:32:04 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Obadiah

Different animals. For $20, Obama can get a certified copy of his BC. Instead, he has spend 10s of 1000s of dollars to fight its release in court.


27 posted on 11/10/2008 12:32:39 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: saganite
It wouldn’t matter now if they did. No court is going to remove him from office and even if they did we get Biden.

Think ahead two more steps:

Biden needs a Veep. Who better than the runner-up at the DNC convention, Hillary!™ Clinton.

Biden is mortal.

Who appointed the judges? That would be Bill Clinton, wouldn't it?

28 posted on 11/10/2008 12:32:57 PM PST by null and void (This isn't an election, it's a manifestation of a Salvador Dali painting. [Persistence of Division])
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To: saganite
It wouldn’t matter now if they did. No court is going to remove him from office and even if they did we get Biden.

If he was officially found to be ineligible before inauguration, you wouldn't. It would, I think, be unprecedented, but since the vice-president takes over in case the president is incapacitated, Biden couldn't be sworn in as president if he had not yet been inaugurated as vice-president. Besides, if Obama were revealed to be ineligible, one could make a good argument that the whole ticket must be eliminated since vice-presidential candidates are chosen by the presidential candidate and in this election only McCain/Palin was the top electoral choice with a legitimate president and vice-president.
29 posted on 11/10/2008 12:33:21 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Prokopton

True, but he did not create forged documents on most subjects.


30 posted on 11/10/2008 12:33:34 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: AU72
maybe he won't get paid

LOL! Somehow I don't think that will be a problem for The One. Lots of friends we haven't met.
31 posted on 11/10/2008 12:33:39 PM PST by Genoa
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To: pissant

PRAYER AND FASTING CAN STILL HAVE A DRAMATIC EFFECT.


32 posted on 11/10/2008 12:34:36 PM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: saganite
"It wouldn’t matter now if they did. No court is going to remove him from office and even if they did we get Biden."

Normally in this situation I would suggest that not being eligible would provide an opportunity for Dems to dump him if this gets even worse; but there is the race issue.

33 posted on 11/10/2008 12:34:42 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: saganite

I’ll take Biden over Obama. He’d be much easier to attack and the MSM would have egg on its face. It would be a major victory politically.


34 posted on 11/10/2008 12:34:47 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: Red Badger
"I believe the Dems would amend the Constitution in record time..."

These Dems probably think they can. Fortunately for us, they still must pass 2/3 vote in both the House and Senate, and get 3/4 of the state legislatures to agree. It ain't ever gonna happen.

35 posted on 11/10/2008 12:35:03 PM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: aruanan

If the president-elect fails to qualify, the vice president-elect is inaugurated as president.


36 posted on 11/10/2008 12:35:03 PM PST by Genoa
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To: pissant
Accordingly, the U.S. Supreme Court has said that Mr. Obama, the DNC and all co-defendants are to respond to the writ, on or before Dec. 1.

This is a most puzzling situation. On one hand, the claims that Obama has a certified birth certificate in Hawaii seem to have credibility. Obama was born in Hawaii ... end of story.

On the other hand the secrecy and reticence surrounding the very simple request that Mr. Obama produce his birth certificate is unsettling. Given my low opinion of the integrity of Marxists, I would like to see this issue come to closure before the election is certified.

37 posted on 11/10/2008 12:35:52 PM PST by olezip
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To: null and void
But we did fight back with Proposition 8...and won.

...And we are talking about Obama here, not any state initiative. His operatives will do all they can to squelch this thing...I mean look at who he's tapped for his Chief of Staff for Pete's sake!

38 posted on 11/10/2008 12:35:57 PM PST by T Lady (Palin-Jindal 2012)
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To: pissant
How about an injunction and/or class action suit against the Electoral College (when the time comes) for not doing their due diligence to assure the elected official they are certifying actually complies with the constitutional requirements to hold office?

The MSM told me not to worry about this and to grin and bear it and deal with the fact (or strong suspicion) that we have a phoney being sworn in.

39 posted on 11/10/2008 12:35:59 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Genoa
If the president-elect fails to qualify, the vice president-elect is inaugurated as president.

Well, that sucks, but it could be really, really entertaining.
40 posted on 11/10/2008 12:36:24 PM PST by aruanan
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To: saganite
No court is going to remove him from office and even if they did we get Biden.

Better to have Biden in the Oval Office than to set a precedent that the clear language of the Constitution no longer has any enforceable meaning. If Obama were ever proven to not be a natural born citizen (although frankly, I think the burden of proof ought to be on him), then allowing him to serve would quite literally be the end of Constitutional government in the US.

(I can hear all the liberals saying "you say that like it's a BAD thing.")

41 posted on 11/10/2008 12:36:34 PM PST by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: ComeUpHigher

If B. Hussein is a fraud the whole democratic ticket would be a fraud.

Wouldn’t we have to get President McCain/Vice President Palin since they would be the highest vote getters of legal contestants on the November 5th ballot?

This is like the evil version of Milli Vanilli.

We need to see his passport.


42 posted on 11/10/2008 12:37:05 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: The Californian

Amendment 15
1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

HOW ABOUT REQUIRING THAT VOTERS POSSESS AT LEAST THE SAME BASIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE HISTORY AND THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF THE UNITED STATES THAT IS REQUIRED OF IMMIGRANTS WISHING TO BECOME CITIZENS?

AND HOW ABOUT REQUIRING THAT ELIGIBLE VOTERS HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF THE CANDIDATES AND ISSUES ON THE BALLOT?

Fat chance, right??

PS: I’d LIKE to take this further – MUCH further – but this place is already too far gone to even get the two listed above.


43 posted on 11/10/2008 12:37:24 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: aruanan

Biden is automatic if the disqualification takes place after the electors have voted (December).


44 posted on 11/10/2008 12:38:03 PM PST by Genoa
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To: T Lady

Yup. And Ahnold is in the thick of the fight to overturn Prop 8...


45 posted on 11/10/2008 12:38:24 PM PST by null and void (This isn't an election, it's a manifestation of a Salvador Dali painting. [Persistence of Division])
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To: Smokeyblue

Contact the electors.

http://www.democratic-disaster.com/


46 posted on 11/10/2008 12:39:10 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: pissant

Look. Get real. Do you REALLY believe Obama will comply? What should be the nation’s top story is being hidden by the Press Brothel.


47 posted on 11/10/2008 12:39:26 PM PST by pabianice (HOW)
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To: pissant

Does anyone here personally know Bob Barr or Ron Paul, or Ralph Nader? As presidential contenders anyone who ran against the Obamessiah should have standing in this case, and thye can file a joinder to Berg’s case. Anyone know anyone of these guys?


48 posted on 11/10/2008 12:39:47 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do work American's won't do)
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To: Quix

*shrug* People who can’t diet two days running have no business threatening God with a hunger strike...


49 posted on 11/10/2008 12:40:04 PM PST by null and void (This isn't an election, it's a manifestation of a Salvador Dali painting. [Persistence of Division])
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To: Genoa
Biden is automatic if the disqualification takes place after the electors have voted (December).

When in December?
50 posted on 11/10/2008 12:40:05 PM PST by aruanan
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