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John Kerry (the next Secretary of State?) on Veteran's Day
various sources | various authors

Posted on 11/11/2008 5:27:14 AM PST by ETL

John Kerry, from his book, The New Soldier:

"We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans' Day waving small [American] flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.'..."

"The John Kerry quote comes in the epilogue to "The New Soldier," the book put out [in 1971] by Vietnam Veterans Against the War [VVAW]. The book's cover features a group of not-particularly sober-looking anti-war protesters (vets, presumably) flying the American flag upside down [while mocking the historic flag raising event at Iwo Jima]":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1203164/posts
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Note John Kerry's name at top right of The New Soldier


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June, 1970 -- Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), a national veterans group that is part of the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. The PCPJ is a broad coalition of local and national organizations, including the Communist Party, USA, "committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina, and poverty, racism and injustice at home." The VVAW, CCI and PCPJ all have headquarters at 156 Fifth Avenue in New York City. VVAW Executive Secretary Al Hubbard, a former Black Panther, is also on the coordinating committee of the PCPJ. Hubbard soon appoints Kerry to the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the normal election process.
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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Photo (link below): "Jane Fonda and John Kerry at an anti-war rally in Valley Forge, Pa. (Leif Skoogfors/Corbis)"
(apparently, we are not permitted to directly post the Skoogfors/Corbis photo here?)

The photo is for real and different than the one above. Here is what Jane Fonda herself had to say about it:

"My reaction is that the American people have had it with the big lie. Any attempt to link Kerry to me and make him look bad with that connection is completely false. We were at a rally for veterans at the same time. I spoke, Donald Sutherland spoke, John Kerry spoke at the end. I don't even think we shook hands."

Source for the photo and quote:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry.asp
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November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."

January, 1971: Jane Fonda raises funds for the Winter Soldier Investigation through a series of benefit concerts. Participants include Fonda, Dick Gregory, Donald Sutherland, Graham Nash, David Crosby and Phil Ochs. Fonda is named Honorary National Coordinator of the event.

February 16, 1971: Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland form "FTA" (F*** The Army), an anti-war, anti-American road show that tours near Army bases in order to undermine troop morale. Skits and songs portray American defeats, soldiers refusing to fight, and the murder of officers by their troops. FTA cast members mingle with soldiers after the shows, encouraging them to desert or to sabotage the Army.
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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Fonda made the following statement at the University of Texas:
"We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses. Whether the transition is peaceful depends on the way our present governmental leaders react. We must commit our lives to this transition ...... We should be very proud of our new breed of soldier. It's not organized but it's mutiny, and they have every right." --Karen Elliott Dallas Morning News December 11, 1971

From 1972: "I am not a do-gooder, I am a revolutionary. A revolutionary woman."

Source:
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
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"We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans' Day waving small (American) flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.' "

So John Kerry would have a difficult time marching with those waving small American flags yet had NO problems marching with those waving HUGE VIETCONG FLAGS?
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"Pictured above: VVAW-supported demonstration during the Washington Spring Offensive, April - May 1971. Notice the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong flags."


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March 19, 2005: Workers World Party/Troops Out Now rally in Harlem, NY,
marking the 2nd anniversary of the start of the Iraq War.
Ramsey Clark (left)
Clark, Attorney General for former president LBJ (democrat), heads the International Action Center.
The IAC, with WWP, formed the "peace" group A.N.S.W.E.R.
On right, convicted terrorist attorney, communist advocate Lynne Stewart
Source for photo: Workers World Party/Troops Out Now
http://www.workers.org/march19/index2.html
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From the Workers World Party website (workers.org):

"Workers World Party values our close, comradely relations with the Workers Party of Korea very highly. We are proud to have known Kim Il Sung as a great leader and a comrade in the international communist movement. ..."

With comradely solidarity, Sam Marcy Chairperson, Workers World Party" (1994):
http://www.workers.org/marcy/cd/sam94/1994html/s940721.htm
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Also from workers.org:


Democrat chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Charlie Rangel, attended and spoke at the same Workers World Party/Troops Out Now rally
http://www.workers.org/march19/index2.html


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: charlierangel; janefonda; johnkerry; obama; obamatransitionfile; vvaw
"...if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."-J.F. Kerry

"Under questioning from the Committee, Kerry referred to the democratically elected government of South Vietnam -- our allies -- as a "dictatorial regime, the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime," while respectfully calling the North Vietnamese communist regime we were fighting by its oxymoronic official name, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and the murderous Viet Cong's political arm by their preferred "Provisional Revolutionary Government.":
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/lindachavez/lc20040428.shtml

From Frontpagemag.com:
During the question and answer period following his April 22, 1971 televised testimony before the Armed Services Committee of the United States Senate, Kerry said:

"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

Even today, knowing what we know about the Vietnamese communists and about John Kerry, it is difficult to grasp the enormity of what he was confessing to. As an American citizen and a member of the United States Navy—while his former comrades and countless others were fighting and dying in Vietnam at the hands of Viet Cong guerillas and North Vietnamese regulars—Kerry consorted with the Viet Cong representative and discussed (“talked with,” he euphemized) her “plan.” That obscene plan included a trade: the return of our POWs for a withdrawal of American forces.

As John O’Neill expressed in his important bestselling book Unfit For Command, “. . . America could have its POWs back only if we agreed that we lost, then surrendered, and then set a date to leave.”

Kerry’s wartime trip to Paris was confirmed about six months ago by a campaign spokesman, who tossed it off as a mere “fact-finding” excursion.

Yet Kerry was apparently so impressed with the “facts” he found in company with the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese that a few months after his return from Paris he had the effrontery to urge the President of the United States to accept his communist hosts’ plan for 'peace' in Vietnam."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15127

1 posted on 11/11/2008 5:27:14 AM PST by ETL
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To: ETL
Now that the election is over, never forget McCain
and his good friend Kerry and their McCain/Kerry F
the POWS/MIAS gift to the communists of Vietnam.
2 posted on 11/11/2008 5:32:07 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama, Change America will die for.)
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To: ETL; MeekOneGOP; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; CholeraJoe

Thanks for an impressive thread, ETL.

Ping.


3 posted on 11/11/2008 5:34:50 AM PST by LucyT
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To: ETL

It all makes me too sick to even speak.....


4 posted on 11/11/2008 5:35:11 AM PST by SoldiersSister (SoldiersSister)
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To: All
No surprise here...

From RushLimbaugh.com:
Hanoi Jane Endorses Obama
April 3, 2008

REPORTER 1: Jane, who are you voting for?

REPORTER 2: Who gets your vote?

FONDA: Obama.

REPORTER 2: Oh, my God. Heaven help us all.

RUSH: The reporter for TMZ said, "Oh, God. Heaven help us all." Obviously the reporter is an Obama supporter.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_040308/content/01125111.guest.html

5 posted on 11/11/2008 5:37:10 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: ETL

just a little fyi..kerry served in vietnam..


6 posted on 11/11/2008 5:37:49 AM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: ETL; LucyT

If Frenchie gets appointed S of S, Mass can have two new Senators. Betcha Barney F. gets one seat.


7 posted on 11/11/2008 5:38:13 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Bite me, Rhapsody! John Phillip Sousa is NOT Country music.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Bawney has been after many “seats” LOL


8 posted on 11/11/2008 5:40:14 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: LucyT

You’re welcome. It’s really incredible the amount of material that the snooze media keeps from the public. Even the ‘right-wing media’ misses most of it.


9 posted on 11/11/2008 5:40:26 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: ETL

Ramsey Clark?

wasn’t the now defunct brand of scumb@gs named for him?


10 posted on 11/11/2008 5:40:46 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: ETL

Traitor!


11 posted on 11/11/2008 5:42:17 AM PST by Fireone (Homeland security is 100,000 rounds of dry ammo and 10 cords of dry firewood.)
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To: BerniesFriend
just a little fyi...kerry served in vietnam...

Dang! I knew it! I just wasn't sure until now. Thanks for the confirmation. :)

12 posted on 11/11/2008 5:43:12 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: ETL

My heart is broken.


13 posted on 11/11/2008 5:44:54 AM PST by Carley (Vote McCain/Palin.....Change babies can live with.)
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To: ETL

While I didn’t vote for Obama, I do hold out some small hope that he will do some good, some place, some time...but if Obama appoints this fool, John Kerry as Sec. of State, I will lose All hope and respect for him. With the possibe exception of Teddy Kennedy, Kerry would be the worst choice in the whole world for a high government office...the man is a complete idiot...and a traitor to his country!!!


14 posted on 11/11/2008 5:47:22 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: ETL
Secretary of State John F'in Kerry?!?!?

Ohhhh what is happening, they're calling good evil, and evil good, honor is now dishonor, truth are lies, and lies are truth, is THIS Obamunism?!?!? I'm so confused!
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15 posted on 11/11/2008 5:56:48 AM PST by mkjessup (Over 57 million *real* Americans said "NO EFFIN WAY" to Comrade 0bama & the 0bamunist Party.)
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To: BerniesFriend

I was an SOS before I wasn’t the SOS.


16 posted on 11/11/2008 5:57:06 AM PST by hflynn ( The One is really The Number Two)
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To: GoldenPup
...Kerry would be the worst choice in the whole world for a high government office...

I agree. If Obama wants to make his SoS choice a small gesture of "leaning across the isle", don't be too surprised to see him pick Senator Richard Lugar for the post. He's been on the Senate Foreign Relations committee forever and a RINO for years.

17 posted on 11/11/2008 5:57:51 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: GoldenPup

When the Liberals reap what they have sown, tens of thousands more dead here in America. I pray everyday for those future un-named victims.

One man has kept this nation safe since 9-11 and that man is about to pass the torch of Liberty to another whom America knows nothing about.

In the world of the Jihadist, Weakness invites agression, even Joe Biden in a moment of candor during the Campaign made that very clear when he said “Obama will be tested”


18 posted on 11/11/2008 5:58:07 AM PST by tomnbeverly (Obamanation, here comes the pogrom against Conservatives.)
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To: All

On the Job Market: Sen. Kerry hopes to take his foreign-relations experience to the State Department
By Mark Hosenball | NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Jun 23, 2008
http://www.newsweek.com/id/141512

19 posted on 11/11/2008 6:00:57 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: ETL
Tonk, I've changed my mind about opposing Jean Francois for SecState. First, it gets him out of the Senate and while he'd be replaced by another lib, there is some comfort in his losing his vote. Second, as an administrator he'd be completely inept and if any agency deserved a hapless leader, State is at the top of my list. Third, he would have to sing Obama's song so there is little chance of him freelancing and substituting his own agenda. Fourth, the world knows he is a lightweight so whatever he said would have little impact.

And fifth, there is the confirmation hearing. Oh lordy, for ONE conservative Senator with even a modicum of cojones on that committee!

This seance brought to you through the courtesy of Brighto. /obscure

20 posted on 11/11/2008 6:02:19 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Jimmah Carter cubed. Obama, the only man in America who can make Hillary Clinton look good.)
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To: ETL

Had John Effin Kerry been hung by the neck until dead, for his crimes against the United States of America, some other moron would be filling his shoes. The Congressional and senate delegations from one of the original 13 colonies, stands in evidence.


21 posted on 11/11/2008 6:03:52 AM PST by wita
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To: All

if Obama really goes through with this cockamamie idea of giving the secretary of state job to kerry, i’ve got a one word response....IMPEACH!


22 posted on 11/11/2008 6:10:36 AM PST by voxitar
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To: tomnbeverly
One man has kept this nation safe since 9-11 and that man is about to pass the torch of Liberty to another whom America knows nothing about.

Well, we know that both Obama and Osama have friends who bombed the Pentagon and who wanted to bomb Fort Dix, NJ. I don't, or didn't, think we need(ed) to know much more than that. But I was wrong.

From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
March 6, 1970: "three members of the Weather Underground accidentally killed themselves in a Manhattan townhouse while attempting to build a powerful bomb they had intended to plant at a social dance in Fort Dix, New Jersey -- an event that was to be attended by U.S. Army soldiers. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plot been successfully executed."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

"The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer's dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey.
The bomb was packed with nails to inflict maximum casualties upon detonation."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)#Chronology_of_events

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2007 Fort Dix attack plot

A group of six radical Islamist[1] men, allegedly plotting to stage an attack on the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey, United States, were arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) on May 7, 2007. They were subsequently charged with planning an attack against U.S. soldiers. The alleged aim of the six men was said to be to "kill as many soldiers as possible".[2] Their trial began on October 20, 2008. [3]

Opening arguments were presented on October 20, 2008.
Assistant U.S. Attorney William Fitzpatrick said the defendants were inspired by jihad saying "Their motive was to defend Islam. Their inspiration was Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Dix_plot

23 posted on 11/11/2008 6:11:42 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: wita

Kerry was upriver in Cambodia.


24 posted on 11/11/2008 6:13:16 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: All

"This is a guy [Bill Ayers] who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."


25 posted on 11/11/2008 6:15:47 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

UGH! Say it ain’t so!


26 posted on 11/11/2008 6:17:44 AM PST by kimchi lover (The ball is now in their court...play ball, SUCKERS!)
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To: BerniesFriend; Owl_Eagle
"just a little fyi..kerry served in vietnam.."

Wow, really???

The next 4 years are going to make the Carter years look prosperous, I am afraid....

27 posted on 11/11/2008 6:20:22 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ETL

Hell! I knew it. It’s seared in my memory!


28 posted on 11/11/2008 6:37:54 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Christmas, wasn’t it?


29 posted on 11/11/2008 6:39:18 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: ETL

If my memory serves correctly, he went to Paris to talk to the Vietnamese in an attempt to interfere with the peace talks.


30 posted on 11/11/2008 6:40:19 AM PST by nufsed
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To: ETL

I’m sure he will publicize his military records before any confirmation hearings.


31 posted on 11/11/2008 6:41:00 AM PST by nufsed
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To: PzLdr

Nixon’s fault.


32 posted on 11/11/2008 6:43:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ETL

33 posted on 11/11/2008 6:48:26 AM PST by pabianice (HOW)
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To: ETL

hmmm sounds good, what will massachusetts do when teddy kicks and john is off playing sec of state. should be a win-win for us senate wise.


34 posted on 11/11/2008 6:49:31 AM PST by 09Patriot (I am a MILITANT Conservative, compassionate conservativism got us NOWHERE)
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To: ETL
Kerry is wrong for SoS. He should be appointed Ambassador to ... Vietnam!

Rumor has it he's already been there. And he does know all the old Communist Rulers on a first name basis. Plus he's somewhat a *hero* to the Communist thugs. To boot he speaks French, the colonial language of Vietnam.

Yep Kerry and Vietnam, a perfect fit.

35 posted on 11/11/2008 7:30:24 AM PST by Condor51 (Obama believes in Marx. I believe in Sun Tzu. [Wanna come out and *Play*?])
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To: ETL

would this be the same John F Kerry who went to Vietnam btw?


36 posted on 11/11/2008 7:40:28 AM PST by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: LucyT

How appropriate for Jean Kerry to be the SOS.

The first Frenchman to serve in that position.

Did you know that Jean Kerry served in Viet Nam ??

:)


37 posted on 11/11/2008 7:43:58 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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Just to clarify, the replies about whether John Kerry served in Vietnam are based on jokes from the Rush Limbaugh show. Rush jokes about it because Kerry never seems to fail to mention his service in Vietnam whenever he speaks somewhere, even if it's to a bunch of kindergarteners. He wants everyone to believe he is a proud, patriotic American. har har. Meanwhile, there he is up on stage with the likes of Jane Fonda, Ramsey Clark and Black Panther Al Hubbard.

June, 1970 -- Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), a national veterans group that is part of the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. The PCPJ is a broad coalition of local and national organizations, including the Communist Party, USA, "committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina, and poverty, racism and injustice at home." The VVAW, CCI and PCPJ all have headquarters at 156 Fifth Avenue in New York City. VVAW Executive Secretary Al Hubbard, a former Black Panther, is also on the coordinating committee of the PCPJ. Hubbard soon appoints Kerry to the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the normal election process.
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html

38 posted on 11/11/2008 8:16:08 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: ETL

Obama’s throwing a bone to the late night comedians.


39 posted on 11/11/2008 9:00:45 AM PST by MNDude
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To: MNDude

Most of those jerks are far left themselves, especially that idiot Letterman. I doubt if they’re going to poke fun at John Fonda Kerry.


40 posted on 11/11/2008 9:06:25 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: ETL

JOHN F***ING KERRY, THE TRAITOR’S TRAITOR! HANOI’S PREMIER WAR HERO! AMERICA’S PREMIER TRAITOR AND COWARD! AND THE GIGOLO OF ALL GIGOLO’S!!

NO WONDER HE IS OBAMA HUSSEIN’S FIRST CHOICE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE FOR AMERICA, THE COUNTRY OBAMA HUSSEIN PASSIONATELY LOVES TO HATE!

MAY GOD BLESS OUR VETERANS, OUR MILITARY, US AND OUR AMERICA!! AND PROTECT US FROM OBAMA HUSSEIN!! AMEN!!


41 posted on 11/11/2008 9:13:46 AM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: ETL

Thanks for an excellent post.
God bless our military...to say Thank You to our troops doesn’t even begin to cover it. We owe them EVERYTHING.
Kerry and his ilk are indescribable. They should be lined up and shot for treason.Anything less is unthinkable.
I’m amazed we lasted as long as we have,with idiots like this in positions of power. We are in deep trouble,and it’s a storm that’s been brewing for some time.


42 posted on 11/11/2008 9:14:26 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (Revolution!!!!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I’m sure Kerry has plenty of chalk-striped pants.


43 posted on 11/11/2008 10:15:33 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (SARAH *** JOE *** 2012!)
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