Posted on 11/11/2008 1:22:04 PM PST by pissant
A reader writes:
I love to see you grapple with trying to explain this woman and her thought processes. You are Tcs2 missing something obvious though. She believes in the literal truth of the Bible. She believes it informs on matters of science, biology, evolution, physics, cosmology, etc. So if there are multiple creation versions in the Bible what do you do, make up your own reality. If there are contradictions in it, ignore them. Just like you ignore inconvenient facts about day-to-day life.
If you BELIEVE the bible is the literal inerrant word of God what do you do? Well then you ignore all contrary facts, like the earth revolving around the sun, like the age of the earth. You are seeing in Sarah Palin the fact that she has translated her biblical literalism into a way of attempting to deal with the real world and hence as you put it, her alternative universe. I think what is going on is that she has internalized the fundamentalist way of thinking to such a degree that she no longer has much of a grip on reality. She has taught herself to ignore reality in matters of faith and has transposed that way of thinking into her regular life.
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The first chapter of my book on how conservatism destroyed itself in America is called "The Fundamentalist Psyche." I don't think you can understand what happened under Bush and what Palin represents unless you grapple with the mindset that can deny empirical truth in favor of Divine Truth.
(Excerpt) Read more at andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com ...
More religious biggotry, fully acceptable in 2008! Barf!
Was this guy supposed to be considered conservative at one time? I get that idea from posts on this forum, but I’m not much familiar with him, and have seen nothing during this campaign cycle that would imply that.
Never a conservative. He initially supported the Iraq war but turned on Bush when it was clear Bush wasn’t catering to the homo lobby.
Oh, OK. A lollypop. No wonder he can't stand Sarah. She's more of a woman that he is...
More of a man too.
Do we really have to pretend that Andrew Sullivan was once “one of us”? The guy was always center-left.
During the early to mid 90’s, he was always featured as a gay left-leaning guy who would say “I am conservative on many issues but am religion averse.”
Just like Christopher Hitchens and the others, we need to return to small government conservatisn and make our case to the people.
And trust me, the fundamentalist Christians are not a problem in the Republican party. In fact, without them there is no road back to electoral victory.
Most women are...
For them to take her Christian faith and immediately translate it into her being a young earth creationist and geocentrist is pure unadulterated projection and shows a lot more about THIER thinking than it has anything to do with what Gov. Palin thinks.
” He initially supported the Iraq war but turned on Bush when it was clear Bush wasn’t catering to the homo lobby.”
Explains why he has problems with Biblical literalism. I hope nobody pays him for his writing.
Yeah, that Bible he derides so much has quite a bit to say about his ilk:
5 The light shines in the darkness. But the darkness has not understood it.
20 “Everyone who does evil things hates the light. They will not come into the light. They are afraid that what they do will be seen. 21 But anyone who lives by the truth comes into the light. He does this so that it will be easy to see that what he has done is with God’s help.”
To people who are pure, all things are pure. But to those who have twisted minds and don’t believe, nothing is pure. In fact, their minds and their sense of what is right and wrong are twisted.
God considers us to be the sweet smell that Christ is spreading among people who are being saved and people who are dying. 16 To the one, we are the smell of death. To the other, we are the perfume of life.
“If you BELIEVE the bible is the literal inerrant word of God what do you do?”
You become a Christian! Millions of Americans believe exactly that. Are they all deranged because they believe their is a God?
BTW, the Bible DOES NOT say the sun goes around the Earth. This false belief arose out of a common error. People adopt an idea becuse they personally like it (in this instance, that the Earth must be the center of God’s creation), and then try to find proof for their idea in the Bible. That’s the exact opposite of the way you are supposed to read the Bible.
Truth be told, we have been taken over by fundamentalists— the f*ing fundamentalist.
An f&ing fundamentalist is someone for who sexuality is the highest of essences and any offense is punishable by rhetorical rape. The open rhetorical sewage dumped on Palin by Annie and his media cohort is an indication of how their god of sexuality was offended by her refusal to abort her defective baby.
Gay marriage is sancrosanct among f*ing fundamentalists. They will come into churches and be profane to make their point.
The rhetorical f carpet bomb has been deployed in this nation to silence anyone who does not agree with this radically secular orientation.
It can work for a while. But real conservatives know that dogma can never work in managing a fallen world. In the end, it collapses. And Obama walked confidently over the wreckage. Until conservatives understand this, there will be no recovery.Theocons aren't the only conservatives.
And conservative doesn't mean anti-science, or it didn't in the past. Yet many here are trying to make it so.
That's not the way to win elections.
Ah, so Bush and Plain are anti science? You agree with the little fag?
Down syndrome births are more common in both women entering their reproductive years and in women leaving their reproductive years. Not sure about the exact risk between a 17 year old and a 44 year old, but they are both at greater risk of a Down birth than women in the middle.
This from a pervert who doesn’t grasp the fundamentals of biology.
There must be a Biblical book somewhere that extols the virtues of anal sex, dont you think, Andy? Keep looking, Im sure you’ll find it eventually.
Actually, risk increases with age. A 17 year old has less risk than any older woman. Risk vs. age:
15 to 24 years = 1/1300
25 to 29 years = 1/1100
35 years = 1/350
40 years = 1/100
45 years = 1/25
The feminist idea of postponing childbirth isn't really a very good idea.
“And conservative doesn’t mean anti-science, or it didn’t in the past. Yet many here are trying to make it so.”
You need to explain that statement.
Are you supporting Sarah Palin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tebyjibeBg
GREAT video interview in Gov Palin’s Wasilla Alaska home.
Here’s what it comes down to. Do you want to take my money to teach my kids something that’s completely false? “No”, you say, “you have every right to put your kids in private schools or home school.” Okay but my money is going to those schools, shouldn’t I have some say in what happens to it, or have the right to keep my money? If you answer is no, you’re not a conservative. You’re a socialist.
Supporting her for what? Against Annie Sullivan’s slurs? You betchya.
Interesting. I had heard different from my Human Genetics teacher, that the risk was high at the beginning and end of the reproductive years. Perhaps it is the grouping of 15 to 24 (the largest grouping covering a 9 year gap) that hides the increased risk of the very young mothers.
Looking into it.
True stats.
“what do you do, make up your own reality.” Finally someone has uncovered the essence of the liberal-left.
What remains to be seen is how these people react when the authentic reality bites BO and his BObots.
http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/322.html
And although they don't provide an actual age for the “young mothers” this source gives an incident rate of 1 to 2% for “young mothers” or pretty much the same risk as a 40 year old woman.
But they also say that for mothers 20 years old or younger the incidence rate is 1/2,500.
So how young is a “young mother” that has the same risk factor for a Down birth as a 40 year old woman? How young is too young?
Still looking into it.
http://www.emedicine.com/oph/byname/Down-Syndrome.htm
For young mothers, the risk of a free trisomy is 1-2%.
He means that if you do not worship at the altar of evolutionary belief like he does, then you are anti-science.
Gads this andy fellow is a brilliant guy...he can tell what people think. Will he be one of the advisors to obama, come January? He can walk among the reporters assigned to the whitehouse, read their minds then tell obama before a news conference. Billiant, I say, brilliant fellow. s/
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- For some, the basic principles of creation and evolution are like oil and water -- they just don't mix.But recent popes often have spoken out, assuring Catholics that while faith and science do operate within different scopes of study they can and must form a complementary and harmonious partnership.
Presenting creation and evolution as if they were mutually exclusive is absurd, Pope Benedict XVI once said.
[snip]
While the modern-day theory of evolution is not infallible and will continue to be revised by the world's scientists, Father Maldame wrote, it is theologically groundless to oppose evolutionary theory out of the fear of erasing God from the picture and meaning from one's life.
I don’t care what the pope says.
| Religious Body | Number of Adherents |
| Catholic Church | 1,100,000,000 |
| Sunni Islam | 1,000,000,000 |
| Eastern Orthodox Church | 225,000,000 |
| Jinja Honcho | 83,000,000 |
| Anglican Communion | 77,000,000 |
| Assemblies of God | 50,000,000 |
| Ethiopian Orthodox Church | 35,000,000 |
| Evangelische Kirche in Deutschland (EKD) | 27,400,000 |
| Iglesia ni Cristo (based in the Philippines) | 27,000,000 |
| Sikhism | 23,000,000 |
| Juche (North Korea) | 19,000,000 |
| Seventh-day Adventist Church | 16,811,519 |
| Jehovah's Witnesses | 16,500,000 |
| Southern Baptist Convention | 16,000,000 |
| Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints | 12,275,822 |
| United Methodist Church | 11,708,887 |
| Soka Gakkai | 11,000,000 |
| New Apostolic Church | 10,260,000 |
| Ahmadiyya | 10,000,000 |
| Veerashaivas (Lingayats) | 10,000,000 |
| Coptic Orthodox | 10,000,000 |
| Sathya Sai Baba | 10,000,000 |
No he doesn't. It's perfectly understandable.
(Evolution) should be taught as an accepted principle. And, you know, I say that also as the daughter of a school teacher, a science teacher, who has really instilled in me a respect for science. It should be taught in our schools - Governor Sarah Palin (AK)
Brilliant! Post of the week. I've said privately for several years now that the Democratic Party is the party of f*ing. Seriously. All of their core issues are all related to f*ing. Who you f***, how you f***, the manamgement of the unwelcome consequences of f***ing, you get the idea. Even taxes are indirectly f***ing related, because the welfare state is a result of uncontrolled f***ing, followed by dad's abandonment.
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