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Anti-war camp urges Obama to dump [tentative Secretary of Defense Robert] Gates
Politico.com ^ | November 11, 2008 | Jen DiMascio

Posted on 11/11/2008 2:44:15 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion

Arms control advocates and anti-war activists are ratcheting up pressure on President-elect Barack Obama to dump Defense Secretary Robert Gates and replace him with a more strident anti-war voice.

Nominating Gates to stay, “would be a violation of the mandate for change that Obama says he represents,” said Medea Benjamin, cofounder of the anti-war group CodePink.

A better bipartisan fit for Obama, they say, is Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), who brings out what they like about Gates – his ability to deal with Russia, Iran and Syria – without the direct link to Bush’s policies.

“That would be an unmistakable sign from the Obama camp that they really are nonpartisan,” said Justin Raimondo, editorial director of Antiwar.com. “He would be great.”

The pressure comes as momentum appears to be gaining for those who support keeping Gates to remain at the helm of the Pentagon, at least for a transitional period.

Moderate Democrats in Congress, including Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada, support the idea.

But when Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) promoted Gates appointment in a closed door meeting with Obama and House Democrats several months ago, he was booed by his colleagues.

“Senator Obama has talked about having a Cabinet of rivals along the lines of [Abraham] Lincoln, people who will not be intimidated to express a contrary view. He’s talked about the need to have a Cabinet that’s not an echo chamber, reflecting his own opinion.” Schiff said, adding Gates could bring such perspective to a young president’s inner circle, one that he may not have now.

Opposition to Gates stems from both politics and policy.

Many Democrats believe Obama needs to send a clear signal to anti-war advocates, an early base of support for his candidacy, that he will keep his promise to bring troops home from Iraq in a prudent and speedy fashion.

Lingering questions also remain about Gates’ role in the Iran Contra scandal, when he was in the top ranks of the CIA.

Others suggest that Obama must appoint a Democrat so the party can shore up its national security credentials with voters. Among those being touted for the position are Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) , an Army veteran who traveled with Obama during his summer tour of Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East.

“The only reason Barack Obama is president today, the main reason Obama is president-elect, is because of his opposition to the war in Iraq,” and Gates, a former intelligence officer and Cold Warrior, was brought in to fix the war, not end it, a defense industry official said, adding, “He is so far outside the box of what Democrats want.”

The scenario most often floated by those closely watching Obama’s emerging defense team is this: Gates would remain at the Pentagon for six months to a year. Former Navy Secretary Richard Danzig, or another Obama candidate, would be nominated as Gates’ deputy, who would take control of the Pentagon after Gates’ departure.

Danzig’s spokeswoman declined to comment, saying only that anyone who says they’re certain about Obama’s choice doesn’t know the real story.

Gates exacerbated the opposition to his retention with a recent speech at the Carnegie Foundation in which he staked out a position that made it hard for arms control advocates to back the notion of keeping him around.

Congress last year pulled funding from studies to create a Reliable Replacement Warhead program, which would reduce and replace aging nuclear warheads in the nation’s arsenal. During the speech, Gates said the cut was misguided.

“The reason, I believe, lies in a deep-seated and quite justifiable aversion to nuclear weapons, in doing anything that might be perceived as lowering the threshold for using them or as creating new nuclear capabilities,” Gates said. “Let me be clear: The program we propose is not about new capabilities – suitcase bombs or bunker busters or tactical nukes. It is about safety, security and reliability.”

Daryl Kimball, the president of the Arms Control Association, said that vision is out of step with the vision Obama outlined during his campaign.

“Gates’ speech represented a full-throated defense of [President] Bush’s nuclear weapons programs over the last eight years,” Kimball said. “I find it hard to imagine Robert Gates faithfully pursuing the nuclear weapons policy vision that Senator Obama has outlined.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2008; cicobama; codepink; gates; obama; secdef
The moonbats want a non-aggressive secretary of defense.

Money quote: Many Democrats believe Obama needs to send a clear signal to anti-war advocates, an early base of support for his candidacy, that he will keep his promise to bring troops home from Iraq in a prudent and speedy fashion.

1 posted on 11/11/2008 2:44:15 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Would Obama really keep a Bush SecDefense? It’s hard to imagine, but it sure would drive the libs CRAZY.


2 posted on 11/11/2008 2:45:28 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I suggest Jimmy Carter.


3 posted on 11/11/2008 2:45:43 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com - www.etpv.org/whatsnew.html)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Gates move out with President Bush and tell Obama get his own secy of Defense.


4 posted on 11/11/2008 2:47:53 PM PST by ethics
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

That would be just fine, as long as the Cornhuskers don’t replace him with another RINO.


5 posted on 11/11/2008 2:49:42 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I was against the surge before I was for it.
6 posted on 11/11/2008 2:51:20 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Dennis Kucinich. He will be able to defend us with UFO death rays.

7 posted on 11/11/2008 2:51:54 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Arms control advocates and anti-war activists are ratcheting up pressure on President-elect Barack Obama to dump Defense Secretary Robert Gates and replace him with a more strident anti-war voice.

I know this is a rhetorical question, but do these idiots not get the purpose of the defense department? Fine. I nominate Licorice, of Saving Private Hamster fame.

8 posted on 11/11/2008 2:52:11 PM PST by TXBlair ( Fort Hood LOVES its vets!!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Notice that they want a Republican Secretary of Defense so if anything happens, his head would be the first to roll. No Republican should work in an Obama administration - if Hagel is offered the job he should flat-out refuse it.


9 posted on 11/11/2008 2:54:20 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
humm dont obama owe code pink/medea benjamin too? funny no one trusts the man enough to wait until he is in office to pay up, yet they got him elected! they want what was promised and want it now! even ACORN said they would not take any crap from obama.
this man has so many hands in his cookie jar, he may start to know what it feels like to be a middle class taxpayer;)
10 posted on 11/11/2008 2:55:12 PM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Who wants a Defense Secretary who’s a defeatist and doesn’t believe in the mission? Medea Benjamin is nothing more than an old communist who’s without a country since the Soviet Union collapsed.


11 posted on 11/11/2008 2:56:54 PM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
I wish we would stop with this "anti-war" BS already. These people are NOT anti-war. They are anti-American, anti-capitalist, pro-communist! They are all in favor of violence when it involves leftist revolts and overthrows. They worship monsters like 'Che', Castro and Mao Tse Tung.

Code Pink 'Bundles' for Barack, 4/14/2008


Cindy Sheehan, Jodie Evans, Hugo Chavez,
Medea Benjamin [co-founder Code Pink]

"The co-founder of the radical anti-war group Code Pink [Jodie Evans] has “bundled” more than $50,000 for Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, and pro-troops groups are demanding that he return the money."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25997
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
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From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
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Revolution interview with ("Peace Mom") Cindy Sheehan: October 29, 2005:
['Revolution' is the official newspaper of the Revolutionary Communist Party]
http://rwor.org/a/021/cindy-sheehan-interview.htm
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From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :
"Create Public Opinion, Seize Power: We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning. And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.":
http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm
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Also from the Revolutionary Communist Party website: "Tearing Up the U.S. Paper Tiger in Korea: How 300,000 Chinese Troops Snuck into Korea and Kicked the Ass of the U.S. Armed Forces" RW #1059, June 18, 2000:
http://rwor.org/a/v22/1052-059/1059/korea.htm
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From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"Throughout its history, one of RCP's [Revolutionary Communist Party] principal objectives has been to foment civil unrest in the United States. The most notable example of such efforts occurred on April 29, 1992, when RCP members looted and trashed the downtown and government districts of Los Angeles, triggering the infamous Rodney King riots. During the days immediately preceding the violence, RCP -- which maintained close ties to the L.A. gangs known as the Crips and the Bloods -- had circulated throughout South Central Los Angeles a leaflet featuring a statement by RCP National Spokesman Carl Dix, titled 'It's Right To Rebel' -- a quote popularized by Mao Zedong.

Encouraged by Dix, RCP activists helped lead the riots that would leave 58 people dead, more than 2,300 people injured, some 5,300 buildings burned, and $1 billion in property damaged or destroyed. On the ten-year anniversary of the rioting, RCP member Joseph Veale fondly recalled the violence as 'the most beautiful, the most heroic civil action in the history of the United States.'"
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6197
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"The RCP upheld the 1992 sometimes-violent unrest in Los Angeles and nationally as a 'rebellion' in the aftermath of the Rodney King verdicts. Then-LAPD chief Daryl Gates alleged that the RCP was involved in the 'riots'. Los Angeles has long been one of the RCP's larger and more active branches. William 'Mobile' Shaw was a local leader who recently passed and received public commendation from the party."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Communist_Party%2C_USA

12 posted on 11/11/2008 2:57:13 PM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
No Republican should work in an Obama administration - if Hagel is offered the job he should flat-out refuse it.

Please examine the inherent condradiction in that statement - Hagel and Republican.

13 posted on 11/11/2008 2:57:19 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: atomic_dog

I also think that Hagel to DOD might be a case of “addition by subtraction” for GOP. It would be hard for a new GOP senator to be more faithless and worthless than Hagel.


14 posted on 11/11/2008 2:58:44 PM PST by Lou Budvis (Demoralize his base, Blame him for everything. Hold him to all his worthless promises)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Hagel has been kissing up to Obama for a long time in anticipation of this moment.....

Don’t imagine for a second that RINO Hagel would not jump at the opportunity.

What’s really telling is that the most far-left nutcases actually think that Hagel is an acceptable choice to them..... that says all that’s needed about where Hagel has wandered in recent years.


15 posted on 11/11/2008 3:02:09 PM PST by Enchante (Make Fox News come clean on the hoax attacks on Governor Sarah Palin!!!)
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To: Lou Budvis
Hagel is already out, he did not run for reelection. Most likely because he would have lost. His seat was won by Mike Johanns, effectively an R pickup.
16 posted on 11/11/2008 3:02:35 PM PST by SoCar
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To: Lou Budvis

Hagel’s leaving the Senate anyway after this term, so there’s no bonus for us to see him in an Obamanation cabinet.


17 posted on 11/11/2008 3:03:35 PM PST by Enchante (Make Fox News come clean on the hoax attacks on Governor Sarah Palin!!!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Gates would be an idiot if he stayed in this position. I don’t think he is that stupid.


18 posted on 11/11/2008 3:10:38 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

Gates has a strong sense of duty and I think he might be persuaded to stay if he thought it was best for the troops and the country.


19 posted on 11/11/2008 3:18:12 PM PST by mouse_35
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To: Lou Budvis

ping


20 posted on 11/11/2008 3:24:31 PM PST by Glacier Honey (`)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Great - Just what we need is a noob in the most critical aspect of our Country Security.


21 posted on 11/11/2008 4:32:31 PM PST by TNoldman (Conservative Values FOREVER!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Gates has been a great SOD. I hope he kicks him out, so that Obama fails that more miserably.


22 posted on 11/19/2008 1:37:17 PM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

The Financial Times of London says that Gates and the Obama camp are already discussing his reappointment as Secretary of Defense.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a3779da6-b5d9-11dd-ab71-0000779fd18c.html?nclick_check=1


23 posted on 11/20/2008 10:15:54 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Hmmm, interesting. I forgot I even posted this thread!


24 posted on 11/20/2008 10:19:52 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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