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CNN’s Rick Sanchez: Does the GOP ‘Have to Be Anti-Abortion’?
Newsbusters ^ | November 11, 2008 | Matthew Balan

Posted on 11/11/2008 7:14:32 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative

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To: St. Louis Conservative

Well, we believe in the future

Without new individuals, the human race is doomed to extinction.


51 posted on 11/11/2008 8:03:13 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Yee Haw! Count 2 Freepers on the "Constitution" Band Wagon!

Now, lets get more. I had no idea until talking to my wife and the local Boy Scout leaders this weekend that there was even a Constitution Party. Now, I am fully on board and ready to hit the beaches!


God, thank you for Marty and his service. I am sorry he saw the rise of Communism in the land he fought for. His Normandy story brings tears to my eyes. Please help us to restore the land he and his fellow Americans died for.

52 posted on 11/11/2008 8:12:27 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Let the GOP be whatever they want. Let’s join the Constitution Party where Individual right occur at conception.

Or how about a party where individual rights begin when you have an individual and not just an aggregate of cells.

53 posted on 11/11/2008 8:15:26 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: mnehrling
The Constitution Party has a lot of housecleaning of truthers, isolationists, and other paranoid bircher types before most would ever even consider them.We.. or Republicans... I am no longer one. Have RINOs and what would have been Democrats 20 years ago. Let them have the old dead and rotting elephant. Let's join the "Constitution" Party and make our agenda the support of the 2nd greatest document mankind has ever known. Now is the perfect storm. If it can't be done after this dismal performance, then it never can. If we could get Sarah Palin and/or Bobby Jindal and a few big time conservative talk hosts on board, we could sweep the communist out of their political stranglehold. The Constitution by it's very name is a GREAT brand. It represents freedom around the world and it sends marxist scum like Obama into convulsions and causes them to spew comments like "negative" rights. Hannity, if you are listening. This is your moment. Get your friends on board. Herman Cain, this is the re-branding you are wanting for the conservative cause and for America. Come on people. Enough with the left, the media and the blue bloods. Let's do what our ancestors 220 years ago did. Let's perform a massive Boston Tea Party and get rid of the Republican Albatross around our necks.
54 posted on 11/11/2008 8:23:15 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: FreeAtlanta

The Constitution Party left me when they joined whole hog in Bush Bashing, and turned suddenly anti-Iraq war. All one has to do is read a few columns written by Robert Scheer and you will have the sense of today’s Constitution Party. They are a one message party having been taken over by the most radical of anti-abortion folks.

Lest someone get the mistaken idea I am not pro life, I come from a state that in four years has twice had a ballot initiative to ban the practice. I voted both times for the initiative which lost approximately 60/40 both times. IMHO the Constitution Party is off the deep end.


55 posted on 11/11/2008 8:23:25 PM PST by wita
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To: mc6809e

Stay with the Republicans or Democrats. Life begins at conception.


56 posted on 11/11/2008 8:24:42 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: wita
Ok, then lets take it over and dedicate it to the constitution. It would be a lesser effort than changing the blue bloods that have control of the Republican party, and we might get some of those who passed prop 8, but wouldn't vote for the "elite rich guy" party of Republicans.

I know it isn't fair to brand the Republicans as the party of rich, elite white guys, but, that is what has happened.

Would it not be easier just to start a new party and cut off the cancerous tissue?

57 posted on 11/11/2008 8:28:45 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

isn’t it kind of like asking democrats if they have to be pro-death?


58 posted on 11/11/2008 8:30:55 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

>> Rick Sanchez: Does the GOP ‘Have to Be Anti-Abortion’?

>> isn’t it kind of like asking democrats if they have to be pro-death?

More like Anti-Life.


59 posted on 11/11/2008 8:32:29 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: FreeAtlanta

I would rather work on cleaning the Republican Party from the inside, as people seem fired up to do, than to jump on whatever third party (or in the Constitution Party’s case, fourth or fifth tier) dejour there is..

As a friend said recently, there is very little Constitutional about the Constitution party, they crossed the line long ago from being anti Statist to just being anti State.

A party with the likes of Chuck Baldwin, John Loftin, Michael Petroutka, et al, have very little to appeal to Conservatives.


60 posted on 11/11/2008 8:33:40 PM PST by mnehring
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To: St. Louis Conservative

How about just being pro-life?


61 posted on 11/11/2008 8:34:32 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Pray for LIFE!

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62 posted on 11/11/2008 8:34:52 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Sanchez is a CuberGoober

and a homicidal drunk driver who left the scene at Joe Robbie

but came back...after some coffee


63 posted on 11/11/2008 8:36:44 PM PST by wardaddy (sunset)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

“CNN’s Rick Sanchez: Does the GOP ‘Have to Be Anti-Abortion’?”

If they weren’t then that would be the last remaining shred of any difference between the parties. And the end of me being a Republican.


64 posted on 11/11/2008 8:39:53 PM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: Grunthor

A bumper sticker the other day caught my attention. “AS A FORMER FETUS I OPPOSE ABORTION”.


65 posted on 11/11/2008 8:43:12 PM PST by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: mnehrling

It is probably easier to change the Constitution party than the Republican party. If we had Hannity, Levin, you, and Sarah Palin on board, we could make it a truly conservative party based on the constitution.


66 posted on 11/11/2008 8:47:59 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Blogger

Why, no of course not. Then, since the Party sees how you recognise the need to change—yeah, change!—they next will convince you how you need to look at gays & lesbians in a more tolerant way...and amnesty is really the best way to take care of illegal immigration...and, and, and before you know it—why you won’t even remember whether you’re a Republican or a Democrat!!!


67 posted on 11/11/2008 8:48:56 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: Jim Robinson; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
Fight the Freedom of Choice Act (Unlimited Abortion) Sign the Fight FOCA Petition ASAP & Get Involved!!

ONE NATION UNDER GOD

Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

68 posted on 11/11/2008 8:50:01 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Count 2 Freepers on the “Constitution” Band Wagon!”

Make it three, I’ve researched that party for years and I like what they stand for if not their strategy. They ought to focus on state races, win some BEFORE shooting for the Presidency. Might even be nice to steal a few Senate seats as well. Nothing like 3 or 4 CP Senators to force the minority Repubs to the right, they’d need the votes just to be able to filibuster.


69 posted on 11/11/2008 8:50:39 PM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

We already have the party, we just need to get it back on track from the small minority in charge who took it off track of Constitutional principles. The trend is happening now. Third and fourth tier parties just want to stick their hands out for the bread crumbs. I would rather send the RINOs off to their own little party. We call them RINOs for a reason, they aren’t true Republicans.


70 posted on 11/11/2008 8:51:21 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mc6809e

“Or how about a party where individual rights begin when you have an individual and not just an aggregate of cells.”

So...second trimester?


71 posted on 11/11/2008 8:52:31 PM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: mnehrling

“A party with the likes of Chuck Baldwin, John Loftin, Michael Petroutka, et al, have very little to appeal to Conservatives.”

How about a party with the likes of Rudy, Mitt, Linc-chafee, McCain, Grahamnesty, Bush, Schwarzenegger...etc.???


72 posted on 11/11/2008 8:55:04 PM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: Slehn

In other words, winning (to you) is everything. Is there a line you would draw, that is a stage in the 9-mo. window of the unborn life? No abortion after 3, 5, 7 months? Infanticide OK ?? I mean, in for a penny, in for a pound: If the Party says, any stage is OK, including partial-birth...?


73 posted on 11/11/2008 8:55:32 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Rick Sanchez should find himself a quiet place, sit down, and think of the worst thing a person can do. That thing would not even come close to the terrible the act of killing a baby in the womb.

Of course, asking Sanchez to do some thinking in a quiet place might be too much. All he will do is fall asleep, like he is asleep to the culture of death which hates the sanctity of life. However, killing a baby in the womb is not the worst of it. How about the procedure of inducing labor in the mother and letting the baby die in a bucket? This is the procedure that is happening in the abortion mills that no one wants to talk about. Is that not right, Obama?

74 posted on 11/11/2008 8:56:19 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Grunthor

Those are the types I am saying who hijacked it, not the foundation of the party as Baldwin and his ilk are re the Constitution party. We call the ones you mentioned RINOs for a reason, they are off track of the principles of the party.

The heart of the Republican party is the party of Reagan and the new generation of Palin, Jindal, Cantor, Watts, etc.


75 posted on 11/11/2008 8:57:29 PM PST by mnehring
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To: St. Louis Conservative

There already is a party that favors killing inconvenient family members. If that’s what you want, go join them.


76 posted on 11/11/2008 8:57:46 PM PST by ducdriver (Quantum potes tantum aude.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Algore would have been president ‘cept for 20 million democratics abortion


77 posted on 11/11/2008 8:58:05 PM PST by Foolsgold ("We live in the greatest country in the world and I am going to change it" Barry O'boomarang 2008)
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To: pissant

yes we need another useless 3rd party to split conservatives while liberals are united behind the Democrats. brilliant.


78 posted on 11/11/2008 8:58:56 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Slehn

yeah we don’t support killing babies to further political ambitions.


79 posted on 11/11/2008 9:01:41 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: mnehrling

“The heart of the Republican party is the party of Reagan and the new generation of Palin, Jindal, Cantor, Watts, etc.”

I hope you are correct because I for one am never casting another vote for a democrat-lite POTUS candidate just because it has an “R” following it’s name.


80 posted on 11/11/2008 9:02:57 PM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: pissant

Have you registered form 8871 to designate the Falcon Party as an actual Section 527-FS-2002-13 or 8872 for QSLPO registered party or is it still just a blog?


81 posted on 11/11/2008 9:06:27 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Grunthor

That’s for us to decide really.. There are tens of millions of registered Conservative Republicans and a few RINOs who have hijacked the party.. time to flex our muscles.


82 posted on 11/11/2008 9:07:43 PM PST by mnehring
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Sanford is right. conservatism is not a buffet. Sanford was also against the bailout. And Neil, you aren’t a fiscal conservative just because of tax reform. W also cut taxes...


83 posted on 11/11/2008 9:08:50 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: donaldo

He cant help it he’s just an asshole.


84 posted on 11/11/2008 9:09:59 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: mnehrling

I wish you were right, but I have been waiting for this for years. I am tired of it. The RINOS are often indisguishible from the Elephants. There is nothing that says either “Conservative” or “Constitutionalist”. Let the RINOs have the Elephant party. Why is it so difficult to start a new party? Get rid of the old sloth. The Peggy Noonans and other cocktail republicans.


85 posted on 11/11/2008 9:10:14 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Grunthor

well that’s why Obama won. Republicans stayed home and we now have a communist in the WH


86 posted on 11/11/2008 9:10:25 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Well said and agreed! : )


87 posted on 11/11/2008 9:13:28 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Senator McCain come out and support Governor Palin!!!!!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Let’s put it this way, look at the overall history of third party’s taking over versus reform within a party and tell me what is most successful. Parties reform and change themselves from within all the time, generally, every 20-30 years or so, parties go through an ideological resurgence (pretty measurable cycle directly coinciding with new generations.) You generally have establishments for a generation with a new generation rebelling against that establishment, getting power, creating establishment that veers off course, then a new generation comes back and rebels again against that establishment..

Third parties, on the other hand, only make real impact once every century and a half or so (if you count the origin of the Republican party, which many would say where never really a ‘third party’.)

Based on history, the Republican party is due for another value resurgence like we had in 1979-1980.


88 posted on 11/11/2008 9:26:57 PM PST by mnehring
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To: FreeAtlanta
I appriciate your enthusiasm for the Constitution Party.

Until the Constitution Party has equal ballot access in all 50 states, they are going nowhere. Ballot acces laws in three fourths of the states prevent their success.

Building a political party is very time consuming, it's like building a house, you have to start with the foundation, (a strong organizaton in every county in the country.) Then build the structure, which includes things like fund raising, party members elected to local, state offices, and Congress. Up to this point the Constitution Party has followed in the path of the Libertarian party, build the roof before the foundation.

A Constitution Party President could not accomplish anything without at least a few Constitution Party members in the House, and Senate.

Fund raising is a big issue, when conservatives take control of the Republican Party, at county or state level the big donors close their wallets. A new conservative party will have even more problems raising money.

The Republican Party has the structure in place, and it is ripe for the picking. If enough people get involved, and put forth the effort it could be taken over in a few years, as opposed to taking decades to build a new structure. It isn't easy, but it can be done.

89 posted on 11/11/2008 9:35:30 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: c-b 1; mnehrling

I think the opportunity is ripe for the picking or dumping of the rotten fruit of the Republican Party. If several nationally respected conservatives can be brought on board, then the natural excitement from a real third party might be enough to swamp over the DNC and GOP. The time is more right than it ever has been.


90 posted on 11/11/2008 9:55:23 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The CP thinks that trade with tariffs is the way to collect taxes.


91 posted on 11/11/2008 10:03:04 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: mnehrling

I have not registered anything. But email them and ask


92 posted on 11/11/2008 10:09:49 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ari-freedom

“well that’s why Obama won. Republicans stayed home and we now have a communist in the WH”

There is a lesson to be learned here....no more RINO POTUS nominees.


93 posted on 11/11/2008 10:24:28 PM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: pissant

that will just lead to another war


94 posted on 11/11/2008 10:29:17 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Grunthor

Palin wasn’t enough for them?


95 posted on 11/11/2008 10:30:19 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: ari-freedom

“Palin wasn’t enough for them?”

It’s not that she wasn’t “enough” but that McCain was too much. 2012.....see tagline.


96 posted on 11/11/2008 10:33:03 PM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I hate to dissapoint you, but I explained why that won’t happen.


97 posted on 11/11/2008 10:50:13 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Grunthor

mccain was too much? hope they enjoy obamunism.


98 posted on 11/11/2008 11:30:55 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Being pro-life is starting to be a fantasy in America. I am certain now that abortion by choice will always be legal in America. And with Obama appointing the next two Supreme Court Justices, forget about changing legislation for the next 25+ years.

Elective abortions will always be legal in Americas, so why is GOP pushing something that can never come to pass? My guess it is for religious reasons, not political reason.


99 posted on 11/11/2008 11:44:09 PM PST by WilliamReading
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To: mnehrling; FreeAtlanta

AMEN! Amen, and AAAAAAMEN to each of your points.

The stupidity of the American people so influenced by the media, into believing the Republican party is made up of rich blue bloods, when the majority of folks are average hard working middle class folks with no voice on the street, unlike the MSM,

and who have to work for a living, unlike the MSM,

who have precious little time for protest, unlike the MSM,

who don’t act as rent a crowd for every little leftist issue someone has, unlike the MSM,

who haven’t forgotten Ruby Ridge, WACO, the twin towers, radical Muslims, illegal immigration, the second amendment, demographics, etc, unlike the MSM,

and above all love the country, the Constitution, the founding fathers the founding documents, and are fully aware of the founders sacrifice and that of every single man and woman who has laid their life on the line for the United States of America since before the American Revolution, unlike the MSM.

I am not entirely sure what lost this election, but have a feeling that turnout of a certain group of so called conservatives, had something to do with it. The election eight years ago with record turnout, was so close as to appear stolen. This one was a blowout by comparison. The Republican party platform has always appealed to me, what became unappealing was the acceptance of the RINO concept where candidates could be what they wanted to be and the platform be damned.

Sorta like John McCain calling himself a Republican when he should have been run out of the party. One thing for sure, being a mavrick finally caught up with him, last time that happened was 2000 in SC.


100 posted on 11/12/2008 3:06:27 AM PST by wita
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