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Everyone wants to complain about the Republican Party, but No one wants to do anything about it!
Americanmade1776 | November 12,2008

Posted on 11/12/2008 7:02:27 AM PST by AmericanMade1776

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To: AmericanMade1776

I’m not quite there, yet. I want to lick my wounds and relax for a little while. I’m mentally exhausted over all of this.

I’m laying the groundwork to keep even MORE tax dollars out of the hands of those stinkers in Washington. The election of Obama has inspired me beyond measure in that area, believe me! I knew before that it was me against the world. Now I know that there at 7-10 MILLION additional boneheads our there working against me, too! I was good at it before; I’m going to be excellent at it, now. :)

Then, I’ll gird my loins and pick up my sword again, once I know, to the penny, that my family is financially safe and sound and we’re not going to lose everything to even MORE confiscatory practices via Obama and the Congress-Rats & -RINOs.


51 posted on 11/12/2008 7:38:56 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ('Taking the moderate path of appeasement leads to abysmal defeat.' - Rush on 11/05/08)
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To: AmericanMade1776
"how many other younger Republican of Sarah's caliber are out there . . ."
Here's one:

Paul Ryan
52 posted on 11/12/2008 7:38:59 AM PST by chickadee
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To: AmericanMade1776
I wrote the following to our local paper and they have yet to print it, but here is my .02...

With this recent election, America has reached a turning point.
For the last 50 years, the liberals have been setting the agenda and it has been up to the conservatives to try and stop it. Year after year the democrat party has steered the discussion and pushed for a socialist nanny state and it has been the republicans that have been acting like a dam holding back the flood.
This year the dam broke and America will be inundated with a socialistic torrent we have never imagined.

We now sit here now and ask, “What happened?”
Well, it started with FDR and the Great Society but more and more the blame lies with US.
Over the years we allowed the liberal philosophy to be implemented a tiny piece at a time, bit by bit, until it is now almost irreversible. Conservatives never thought that they should PUSH BACK, instead they just blocked legislation that they disagreed with.
We didn’t SET the agenda, we tried to stop it. This is equivalent to the football “prevent defense”, which never works.
Now we are at a point where conservatives must start fighting back HARD, just like the liberals. The democrat party plays dirty and republicans play by the rules. This must change if we ever want to see a conservative elected to a national office again in our lifetimes. The MSM is never going to change unless we force them to economically.
The school system is going to remain liberal indoctrination centers unless we get involved as parents and force them to stop teaching global warming as fact, dependence on government, republicans are bad and the rest of the liberal lie that our kids come home with.
Unless we as parents monitor EVERY single thing that these government schools do TO our young people, they will continue to grow into new liberal democrats and conservatives will continue to lose until the brainwashing of America is complete.

These young liberal-bots that continue into college, where the vast majority of the professors are HARD LEFT ideologues, end up as adults with the mindset that democrats DESERVE to lead this nation and will do ANYTHING to make it so.
Vote fraud was rampant in many states and is still going on, perpetrated by these liberals believing that they are saving the country and the world.

It is going to take a generation to undo the damage, but it is possible. Home schooling isn’t the answer; the taxes imposed on families required a fundamental change to the nuclear family. Both parents are now required to work in order for it to have the American dream. In order to take back our country, we have to:

- Monitor everything our children are exposed to at our TAXPAYER FUNDED schools and band together to beat back the liberal agenda. Flood the PTA with our members and say no to the homosexual agenda, environmental nazis and any other liberal brainwashing.

- Push for school vouchers so that these schools will be on notice that we will not tolerate politics in our elementary schools.

Our kids are there to learn the “three R’s”, reading, writing and arithmetic; NOT recycling, reproductive rights and revolution.

- Volunteer to work at the polls to prevent fraud.

53 posted on 11/12/2008 7:40:28 AM PST by red-dawg (Bend over for CHANGE.)
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To: mysterio
mysterio wrote: I don't see what's so difficult about this. When the GOP is the party of smaller, less intrusive government, they win. When they aren't, they lose. If you want to win, don't promote policies that grow government. If you want to lose, stay on the course you're on.

Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooo? What planet are you living on. Did you just see that someone named Barack Hussein Obama just got elected ... meaning.. more intrusive government, more taxes, more insecurity for the United States.

I think he got elected, not because of what he stands for obviously, but because he is younger. Isn't that a hoot?

Ageism defeated the Republican Party again.

54 posted on 11/12/2008 7:40:37 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
No thanks, been there and done that. The GOP is designed to crush dissention all the way down to Precinct Committeeman level.
55 posted on 11/12/2008 7:43:11 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I agree with most of what you say but we can’t forget the stupidity of the American voter. All the negative info about Obama was there for anyone to see. The masses didn’t care. He successfully pitted enough of the 95% of the electorate against the 5% with the most wealth. We’re in a world of hurt.


56 posted on 11/12/2008 7:43:56 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: TexasCajun
If I post a vanity with my thoughts & ideas for the future does that count?

If your thoughts agree with mine, then yes it counts.

OK, actually my guess is that less republican-bashing and more focus and cooperation can go a long way.  Obama would never have gotten elected without the help he got from 20% of the voters who call themselves 'conservatives'.

57 posted on 11/12/2008 7:45:53 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Pluribus Unum wrote: I have given up on the GOP. I’m waiting for the Palin Party.

Palin is a Republican, and if you want her to be the nominee in 2012, you better get involved in your Republican Party now, because the decision is made in the Party Nomination, not on Election day.

58 posted on 11/12/2008 7:46:38 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Bump that.


59 posted on 11/12/2008 7:46:49 AM PST by mnehring
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To: AmericanMade1776
Obama just got elected ... meaning.. more intrusive government, more taxes, more insecurity for the United States.

Democrats running on big government platforms win. Republicans running on big government platforms lose. If a Republican wants to promote big government, that Republican should join the Democratic party. If the Republican wants to win, he or she should run on a smaller, less intrusive government platform. The candidate must also be able to sell the platform to the average voter. Reagan was able to do this. If you are not, don't run.
60 posted on 11/12/2008 7:48:13 AM PST by mysterio
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To: AmericanMade1776

My question is:

What are Freepers doing now to change the nominating process in their states so that Moderates, Independetns, and Democrats aren’t choosing the GOP nominee for 2012?


61 posted on 11/12/2008 7:48:32 AM PST by TitansAFC (Sarah Palin/Mitt Romney 2012!!! Elway, Schwarzenegger, Ditka, Huckabee, and Hoeven for Senate 2010!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

“The next best thing is to write letters. Not rants but constructive guidance. Be consistent, be persistent. You would be surprised how many of these people haven’t a clue and actually welcome calm, rational voices telling them what needs to be done. Find out who the officials are and write them every week or at least monthly. Follow with an occasional call. Let them know who you are.”
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Very good idea....I plan to write one to highlight the things that went wrong in Broward Co. Believe me, it will be a long letter. Those of us who volunteered need to do this otherwise the RNC will only hear the accounts of state and county chairs and they cannot be trusted to tell the truth when it makes them look bad. Mind you, I have no intention of dragging any one person down. What I want to see changed are obsolete practices that no longer work.

For those of you more internet savvy than I am could probably tell the party a thing or two about its best use in future campaigns.


62 posted on 11/12/2008 7:49:21 AM PST by lovesdogs (Take heart...we are a resilient nation. Just ask Jimmy Carter.)
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To: TexasCajun
TexasCajun wrote: If I post a vanity with my thoughts & ideas for the future does that count?

This may be vanity with my thoughts and ideas for the future, but I know of what I talk about, when it comes to the Republican Party and how it runs. I am involved, have been involved in three different states. I worked in three Presidential elections in Massachusetts, and was a delegate to State Republican Party convention in another Southern State, and have been officers in several local Republican organizations. I have eaten dinner with Governors, and met Senators, and I am telling you.. the GOP NEEDS NEW YOUNG TALENT, AND I AM TELLING YOU THE GOP IS EVOLVING AND YOU CAN HELP IF YOU DESIRE TO HELP , BUT YOU CAN NOT WAIT TIL 2012.. YOU NEED TO START NOW. AND THE OTHER POINT.. THE GOP NEEDS NEW YOUNGER TALENT. or you can expect more of Obama in 2012

63 posted on 11/12/2008 7:51:19 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: Scythian

At least we can feel good about our votes???
The life of this nation is at stake and you are ready to go third-party and let the country be destroyed so that at least you can feel good about your vote?

We need to do what is highest right under the circumstances, and from that you go on to higher and higher right. That’s how it works. You cannot just demand that you get exactly what you want right now, or you’re going to take your toys and go home.


64 posted on 11/12/2008 7:51:21 AM PST by amyjane (No choice now but to go forward and build on the rock.)
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To: phoenix07
Can't seem to get the fools fantasizing about 2012, to think about the congressional elections in two years. They are into the grape cool aide.
65 posted on 11/12/2008 7:51:47 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

What can be done to remove the first primaries from being held in Iowa and New England? Both are liberal areas with either a fraud-ridden caucus process (obama openly imported supporters,,, do we doubt they did it with our side too),
If its not a caucus, its a vote with very lax registration requirements that is also open to people registered “independent”.

The system is skewed to strengthen pro-abortion, country club, global warming-type republicans.


66 posted on 11/12/2008 7:52:01 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I’m a conservative. I don’t care about the Republican Party. First, they obviously want to be liberals and moderates.


67 posted on 11/12/2008 7:53:06 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: CanadianMusherinMI
"we need to unite, but it aint looking promising at least not on FR. it is starting to look like the beginning of the primaries again :( if we keep threatening third parties and refusals to vote we will never win. no voting gave us pelosi and now obama. dont think it could get worse? give them 4 more years...."

I concur. If we simply want to vote to make ourselves "feel good", then we are going to be out of power for the greater part of the century, if not eternity...

68 posted on 11/12/2008 7:53:37 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Democrats: Seeking an easy life at someone else's expense for 150 years")
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To: mysterio
mysterio wrote: Democrats running on big government platforms win. Republicans running on big government platforms lose. If a Republican wants to promote big government, that Republican should join the Democratic party. If the Republican wants to win, he or she should run on a smaller, less intrusive government platform. The candidate must also be able to sell the platform to the average voter. Reagan was able to do this. If you are not, don't run.

It is all in the packaging of what you are promoting. Next time the Republican Party wants to Present its less big government platform , they should put it in a younger attractive savy package. Not sure substance matters on a National level. STart figuring a way to wrap your package more attractively.

69 posted on 11/12/2008 7:54:37 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
The Republican party is the ONLY way to advance a conservative agenda—there is no other way. Get out there and work. Run to be on your couny central committee.

You go to work Grandma. I have better things to do!

Conservatives get used by the GOP. Today, the GOP is still blaming conservatives for their loss. They have only paid lip services to us in the past and nothing is going to change in the future so long as we are a captive audience. We elected President Bush, one of the most liberal GOP Presidents in memory, only to have Mr. McCain run on a platform that, unlike Bush, he would reach across the aisle more often.

The only way any change will happen within the GOP is from the outside. I will happily send my money and time to conservative grass roots organizations who will dole money to the GOP only after they have produced results.

Stop being beholden to a party and get on track with a movement.

70 posted on 11/12/2008 7:54:58 AM PST by CharacterCounts (Wanted: Snappy, erudite tag line.)
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To: DesertRhino

We need to oppose legislation now. Immigration is key. If Osbama grants amnesity to 12m plus illegals, we will loose forever. We need to be sitting on our Reps door steps and never let them forget that a majority of voters don’t want open boarders. It will take a herculean effort by conservatives to torpedo this movement.
By all means..we hope them demonstrate just like the queers are doing now. It consolidates opposition.


71 posted on 11/12/2008 7:54:58 AM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Sure, I’ll do something. Put me in charge. The Dems won’t know what hit ‘em...


72 posted on 11/12/2008 7:55:46 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Sadly, you may be correct—again!!! There is no logic to this.


73 posted on 11/12/2008 7:56:06 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: chickadee

I actually loved Sarah Palin, but we can not put all our hopes on her , we better be shaking the bushes and looking for the absolutely best choice now. If Palin is the nominee, I would be glad to hold her sign in 2012.


74 posted on 11/12/2008 7:56:42 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Thank you for listening.

Thanks for sounding off. Individually I can't affect the national party and its success in a huge way. I will continue with my donations to various efforts and volunteering on campaigns. On the local level I have taken a larger stand. I have advocated and will lead a serious of strategic planning meetings (at least as long as they tolerate me) for my County's Republican Central Committee. I'm not a member of the committee and will be coming at this as a consultant (though unpaid). I've done strat planning consulting for apolitical non-profits in recent years and will offer some of the same skills and techniques to this political organization. Wish me luck!

75 posted on 11/12/2008 7:57:12 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I know you will be ready ... :-)


76 posted on 11/12/2008 7:58:43 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

TOTALLY! By the time we had our Texas Primary, McCain had already been CHOSEN and many candidates had dropped out of the race. Our Primary was a JOKE and a waste of money.

There is a grassroots group that everyone can join and help the cause. In Houston they have already organized and hopefully will make a difference in all future elections. It is an activist group as well.

CCM COALITION FOR A CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY
http://www.ccmajority.com/about/our-leadership/


77 posted on 11/12/2008 8:00:22 AM PST by buffyt (We can't drive our SUVs, eat as much as we want, keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times.Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Our Leadership

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Ken Blackwell serves as Chairman for the Coalition for a Conservative Majority, a results driven grassroots action and advocacy organization. Mr. Blackwell is also the Senior Fellow for Family Empowerment at the Family Research Council, the Ronald Reagan Distinguished Fellow for Public Policy at the Buckeye Institute in Columbus, Ohio, a member of the Club for Growth’s Board of Directors, serves on the Board of Directors for the National Taxpayers Union and a member of the National Rifle Association’s Public Affairs Committee. He is a columnist for the New York Sun, a contributing editor and columnist for the conservative news and opinion site Townhall.com, and a public affairs commentator for the Salem Radio Network.

Mr. Blackwell’s public service includes terms as mayor of Cincinnati, an undersecretary at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Human Rights Commission. In 1994, he became the first African-American elected to a statewide executive office in Ohio when he was elected treasurer of state. He subsequently was elected to two terms as secretary of state.

Mr. Blackwell is a lifelong resident of Cincinnati. He and his wife of 39 years, Rosa, have three grown children.

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78 posted on 11/12/2008 8:00:45 AM PST by buffyt (We can't drive our SUVs, eat as much as we want, keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times.Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776
We did not even know Sarah Palin existed...

I did. Go back to the Primary threads. I had a list of folks vastly superior to McCain/Romney/Huckabee/Guilani that I was trying to promote here and elsewhere. When we thought it was going to be Hillary on the DNC ticket, I again brought up Sarah as a perfect Counter.

But Noooo... Party over Principles reptiles said, "But John's electable!" "Rudy is America's Mayor!" "Huckabee really is a 'conservative' despite all his idiotic baggage!" "But Willard has great hair! That's important, right?!?"

I called BS then, and the election proved me right.

Sarah is charismatic. She can get the message across. She isn't the only one, but she's already had a lot of face time due to her Veep selection. This is a good base to make a run for 2012. Starting NOW...

79 posted on 11/12/2008 8:01:33 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: AmericanMade1776

KEN BLACKWELL
80 posted on 11/12/2008 8:02:00 AM PST by buffyt (We can't drive our SUVs, eat as much as we want, keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times.Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776
You are a very hard worker, a Great American.

My comment was made tongue-in-cheek with regard to the volume of vanity posts before the election from both noobs and old-times.

Public Skewls and Universities are practically brain-washing our youth. You are correct, Conservatives need bright, young, enthusiastic Americans to try to salvage Traditional American Valves from completely disappearing.

81 posted on 11/12/2008 8:02:19 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TitansAFC
TitansAFC wrote: My question is: What are Freepers doing now to change the nominating process in their states so that Moderates, Independetns, and Democrats aren’t choosing the GOP nominee for 2012?

Not all Freepers are Republicans, but they are all Conservativesto different degrees, but if all Freepers were Republicans and involved in the party, then there would be more input in the actual process for conservative values. I myself am a Moderate Conservative, which to some Freepers is unheard of.

82 posted on 11/12/2008 8:02:40 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: 1Old Pro
I agree, our county GOP committee is full of patronage hacks and the average age is close to 90.

Sounds like the local Republican party here in NW Illinois. Nothing but old farts and old women who have nothing else to do but plan their little coffee klatches and puff themselves up in front of mirrors, all the while running tired old candidates who have no business representing us and who lose year after year by sizeable margins anyway.

I would LOVE to get in there and mix things up, but unless I had 30-40 other like-minded people to back me up, I'd get tossed out on my ear before I was able to accomplish anything.
83 posted on 11/12/2008 8:02:43 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Obama, you are NOT my President!)
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To: red-dawg
Thank you but I'm going to continue to hammer on the liberal/socialist "churches". How many of the complaining Freepers belong to one of these "churches"? If you do, don't complain about the Republican party.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church

84 posted on 11/12/2008 8:03:07 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Actually The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America isn't that bad. Depends on where you are. The one here in Lake Jackson, Texas isn't very liberal at all. I have been to it and also to the other Synods of the Lutheran church and not all ELCS churches are liberal. The sermons are very conservative and they use the old liturgy and catechism.
85 posted on 11/12/2008 8:06:26 AM PST by buffyt (We can't drive our SUVs, eat as much as we want, keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times.Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776
My plan to change the GOP.

Closed primaries only. Unless a state has a closed primary, no delegates will be awarded to any candidates. Like caucus states, they will count as nothing more than a straw poll.

Republican primaries will have scheduled dates based on the % that the state voted Republican in the previous POTUS election. The true conservative states will vote first! We will have Republicans choose our candidate, not mushy RINO’s and RATS!

Problem solved.

86 posted on 11/12/2008 8:06:26 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

EVERYONE I know who goes to the Houston church of the
Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
is VERY VERY conservative, I worked with some of them.


87 posted on 11/12/2008 8:07:39 AM PST by buffyt (We can't drive our SUVs, eat as much as we want, keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times.Obama)
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To: DesertRhino

I am not sure what can be done in the New England States, having lived in one of the New England States for 20 years. But you need involvement in the local Republican Party in those states Iowa and the New England States, so that good candidates can be chosen for the local and state races.. that is a start.


88 posted on 11/12/2008 8:08:00 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Never give in, and never give up, get back to those boring local GOP meetings and make a difference.


89 posted on 11/12/2008 8:09:13 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
When W called me and others a racist for not supporting amnesty. Then he iced the cupcake by telling us we were not needed. “See you at the signing!”

"W" called you a name so you are going to pick up your toys and run away. If you are that thin skinned you shouldn't be involved in politics at all.

Had those of us out on the border reacted that way, the amnesty would be in place, and they would be talking about the next amnesty.

90 posted on 11/12/2008 8:11:22 AM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: reagan_fanatic
reagan_fanatic wrote: Sounds like the local Republican party here in NW Illinois. Nothing but old farts and old women who have nothing else to do but plan their little coffee klatches and puff themselves up in front of mirrors, all the while running tired old candidates who have no business representing us and who lose year after year by sizeable margins anyway.

The Old Republican Farts in Illinois are not getting any younger, they should be easier to manage and confuse. :-)

91 posted on 11/12/2008 8:11:43 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

92 posted on 11/12/2008 8:12:55 AM PST by buffyt (We can't drive our SUVs, eat as much as we want, keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times.Obama)
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To: Scythian

I don’t want to ‘feel good’ about my vote. If I wanted to ‘feel good’ I’d be a Democrat, sing kumbaya with Hugo Chavez and wear a ribbon.

Conservatives are about what works in the real world, not idealistic fantasies. And the GOP is the real world. It’s what we have so let’s fix it.


93 posted on 11/12/2008 8:13:36 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Conservativegreatgrandma wrote: Sadly, you may be correct—again!!! There is no logic to this.

We have to look to the realities of this election and make some sense of it , and learn from it.

94 posted on 11/12/2008 8:14:01 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: buffyt
Oh, please. I know a lot about the ELCA. I grew up in the ALC and in 1988 they merged with some other "Lutheran" bodies and became the very liberal ELCA.

They are among the worst. That doesn't mean there may not still be some traditional pastors in the system but they're getting fewer and fewer.

Anyone still attending an ELCA "church" does not care about the true word of God and also does not care about their country.

The ELCA is in full fellowship with the Episcopal "church". This from another thread running today on FR regarding the Episcopal Church's involvment in Prop 8 in CA.

"Two more events in support of gay marriage are planned for today: a 4 p.m. street rally in Encinitas and a 7 p.m. interfaith service at St. Paul's Episcopal Cathedral near Balboa Park."

There is nothing good about the ELCA. Needless to say we left the ELCA years ago.

95 posted on 11/12/2008 8:14:19 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: AmericanMade1776

That is the way I see it too. Alot of the Republicans are older with health issues, memory problems, and can not use a computer. :-)

even a conservative like Reagan won’t work anymore because he’d be too old.


96 posted on 11/12/2008 8:17:14 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I consider myself a very conservative Republican and I see no other way to advance my agenda than with a strong Republican party. I may have to use some RINOs along the way but I’m willing to do it.


97 posted on 11/12/2008 8:18:17 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: AmericanMade1776

The “Pocketbook” conservatives in the Republican Party, those who are economic conserviatives only, but make us think that they believe that “it takes all kinds” (tolerant of sodomites and a little grass smoking kind of people), have got to recognize that conservatism is and must mean much more than keeping “free-trade” open with Red China, etc.

I do wish that the lewd, immoral, atheistic Republican Party members would just go ahead and move to the Democratic Party or join up with the Libertarians (Libertines). It would then be easier to support the Republican Party.


98 posted on 11/12/2008 8:19:08 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: lovesdogs
I agree with one exception: Keep your letters short. When I started I went out and got nice letterhead paper exclusively for this purpose but that is not necessary at all. I wanted them to be noticed. I made a campaign of it. One letter a week to half a dozen officials and officeholders. Usually the same letter to each but sometimes with small variations.

I let the fact that I was a nobody work for me. They didn't know who I was. I recall that I once walked into a Congressman's office and told them where I was from and they said "Yeah, all those people up there want _______. Actually it was only me but I was the only one writing letters.

All of my letters were respectful and at most four or five paragraphs long. That was the limit of their attention span and it was enough to get my main points across. If I had more, I saved it for the next letter.

In just a few months they were returning my phone calls and, more importantly, they were taking me seriously!

At that point, it became fairly well known that I had "contacts". People came to me to write letters for them and I did. Then I really had the attention of the Party.

Good luck and God Bless!

99 posted on 11/12/2008 8:19:10 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: AmericanMade1776

It’s really amazing. I’ve been to a few of the meetings, and I attended the last RI County barbeque where we heard speeches by local and state GOP candidates.

With the exception of one, the rest were absolutely horrible. I actually felt sorry for a couple of them. It was clear by their selection that the county GOP had no real interest in beating the democrats, and this has been the status quo for as long as I can remember.

I wish there were enough of us here to join up and force these old dust bunnies into unscheduled retirements. They have made the GOP party here into a laughing stock.


100 posted on 11/12/2008 8:20:20 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Obama, you are NOT my President!)
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