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Catholic Church Battling Obama On Abortion Issue
CBS ^ | 11/12/08 | Deb Garcia

Posted on 11/12/2008 2:34:30 PM PST by pissant

Fresh off of his election victory, President-elect Barack Obama is already facing a fight from another opponent – the Catholic Church – on the issue of abortion.

"Anytime someone like him, someone with his position [on abortion] is elected to a major office, it increases the difficulty for us," Ed Mechmann, of the NY Archdiocese, said.

Mechmann says that at their annual meeting this week, the nation's Catholic bishops are discussing how to tackle Obama's support of the Freedom of Choice Act.

That act, which currently stands before Congress, seeks to overturn the 2003 legislation signed by President Bush that bans late-term abortions in some cases.

"I would expect legislative advocacy campaigns and postcard campaigns, e-mails, writing letters, encouraging people to meet with their local legislators," Mechmann said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcbstv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; agenda; bho2008; catholic; catholicchurch; foca; larrysinclairslover; obama; proaborts; rcc; usccb
Geez, I could have sworn Obama's website said he was "pro-life". Maybe he just meant the poor saps that are on death row deserve to live.
1 posted on 11/12/2008 2:34:31 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

And yet most of the Catholics in NY voted for Obama and every other DemocRAT in NY. I maybe moving out of NY soon for good.


2 posted on 11/12/2008 2:37:24 PM PST by PMAS
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To: pissant
Catholics, LDS, many Baptists and Evangelicals, and others, all fighting the good fight on this.

God grant that we may yet prevail, despite this set-back.



Many more designs here.

3 posted on 11/12/2008 2:39:06 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: pissant
Catholics, LDS, many Baptists and Evangelicals, and others, all fighting the good fight on this.

God grant that we may yet prevail, despite this set-back.



Many more designs here.

4 posted on 11/12/2008 2:39:06 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: pissant

Here’s a thought, your Holinesses. Rather than “battle” an elected official who never pretended to be anything other than pro-abortion, persuade instead the voters who elected him. Many of them are among your own congregants.


5 posted on 11/12/2008 2:41:54 PM PST by dotan
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To: dotan

They tried this time, actually. They sent out many notices on the evils of supporting abortion supporters.

They cannot name names, or they risk losing their tax exempt status. Only churches full of black liberals and marxist P’sOS can praise candidates by name.


6 posted on 11/12/2008 2:44:24 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Catholic Church Battling Obama On Abortion Issue

Then why the hell did y'all vote for him?

7 posted on 11/12/2008 2:48:53 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: pissant
If the Catholic church cannot convince it's own parishioners, how do they expect to convince someone who is not one?

Your Holiness, clean your house. That house will, in turn, clean the government with it's VOTE.

8 posted on 11/12/2008 2:48:55 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: pissant
They tried this time, actually. They sent out many notices on the evils of supporting abortion supporters.

They cannot name names, or they risk losing their tax exempt status. Only churches full of black liberals and marxist P’sOS can praise candidates by name.
Please forgive me. I didn't know this. The bishops only need to tell the truth IMHO. It is up to their hearers to decide what to do with that truth.
9 posted on 11/12/2008 2:49:39 PM PST by dotan ("when the poor get power they'll be sh*ts like everyone else"---Saul Alinsky)
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To: pissant
They cannot name names, or they risk losing their tax exempt status.

Heaven forbid!

10 posted on 11/12/2008 2:50:46 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: pissant

Someday ,very soon, there’s going to be a modern day Thomas More who is going to be dispatched by the coming socialist/secularist regime.


11 posted on 11/12/2008 2:50:49 PM PST by Carl LaFong (I'm Sarah Palin)
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To: pissant

My aughter and her family live in NY. My oldest grandson is about 15 and his public school spent a lot of time on the eelction. Most of the kids were for Obama, but he studied all the issues, watched all the debates and came out for McCain for his experience and service. I asked my daughter about McCains pro life views vs. Obama’s pro death views (what I considered the most important issue). Her answer: “We didn’t hear anything about that in NY. The only information that I got about that were some emails from you.”

This family is Catholic and attends their parish church weekly + Cathechism classes. This is a sad state of affairs.

This nation was tested on Nov. 4, and we failed.


12 posted on 11/12/2008 2:52:55 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: PMAS

And a lot of protestants voted for him too! Let’s not forget that! Quit blaming Obama on the Catholics!


13 posted on 11/12/2008 2:56:06 PM PST by notaliberal
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To: 5thGenTexan

IMHO the American Bishops’ treatise on “Faithful Citizenship” caused more problems than it solved. The 8 weeks of lengthy letters seemed to equate abortion with global warming and littering.

Most of us need straight talk. (I’m not confused, but apparently a lot of other Catholics are, including our new VP.)


14 posted on 11/12/2008 2:56:10 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Carl LaFong

I will march with him, whomever he may be. “I die the King’s good servant, but God’s first.”


15 posted on 11/12/2008 3:13:15 PM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: pissant

The 36th Annual March For Life will take place on Thursday, January 22,2009 at noon on the Mall. It will be just two days after O takes over. I think this march will be one of the biggest.


16 posted on 11/12/2008 3:14:39 PM PST by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: pissant

I sure hope so.


17 posted on 11/12/2008 3:15:03 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: dotan
It is up to their hearers to decide what to do with that truth.

The seamless garment argument has been terribly misused. People have gotten woefully confused.

Add to it the statement that one should listen to one's conscience, without the clause a 'formed' conscience, well... there's all sorts of wiggle room, sadly.

18 posted on 11/12/2008 3:16:27 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: pissant
Didn't over 70% of the Catholics support Obama? Why didn't the Vatican speak out against Obama before he was elected? He has never denied he was PRO ABORTION, were these people actually mesmerized, on drugs or did they all of a sudden get a huge dose of reality? Good Heavens!
19 posted on 11/12/2008 3:16:45 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: pissant
Didn't over 70% of the Catholics support Obama? Why didn't the Vatican speak out against Obama before he was elected? He has never denied he was PRO ABORTION, were these people actually mesmerized, on drugs or did they all of a sudden get a huge dose of reality? Good Heavens!
20 posted on 11/12/2008 3:16:47 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The 8 weeks of lengthy letters seemed to equate abortion with global warming and littering.

So true! It was way too long - there should have been a summary for it. I can read long docs, but it nearly put me to sleep. It was more of 'how to write a 50 page document and say nothing' rather than a help to form one's conscience. Our post V2 writings are too darn wordy.

21 posted on 11/12/2008 3:20:59 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Catholic Church has been infiltrated by heretic Modernest theologians, communist stooges, Masonic tools, homsexual reprobates and assorted liberal useful idiots. Oh, but Vatican II was such a “watershed moment” for the Church. So, my prodigal sons and daughters, how’s that eccumenical love fest working for you? Can you say “auto destruct”? Yes, I knew you could. Time to return to Tradition.


22 posted on 11/12/2008 3:22:17 PM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: crymeariver

I would like to see us shut down the city... total gridlock.


23 posted on 11/12/2008 3:23:24 PM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: Patriotic1

That helps them with the ambivalent theology... they may interpret their wordy documents either in a traditional or Modernist sense... that is the game the V2 heretics are playing with the Catholic Faith. Don’t like it? Find a Traditional Church, and the real Catholic Faith.


24 posted on 11/12/2008 3:27:22 PM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: TCH
"Time to return to Tradition"

Exactly

25 posted on 11/12/2008 3:27:43 PM PST by sneakers
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This was a triumph of the MSM’s disinformation campaign.

I have a staunch Christian girlfriend who tends to be politically naive.

She asked me three times before the election, but isn’t Obama prolife? Are you sure? They keep saying he’s a Christian?

(I enjoyed telling her he went to the gym instead of church last Sunday)


26 posted on 11/12/2008 3:31:16 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Paige

No, 70% did not. The bishops and the Vatican did speak out, multiple times, loudly and more often than anyone else.


27 posted on 11/12/2008 3:31:18 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
As a Catholic I can understand the frustration from those who are replying to this post who are not Catholic. Pro-life for me is the deciding factor in a candidate as all other issues fall after this “Choice”. You can not pretend to care for the poor or the sick if you do not care for them before they became that way. Do I wish the Church would speak more feverently against this horror....yes!!! I do however look at this a bit differently, in that now is the time to stand up and be heard, teach and engage in this from our homes to the capital and the Church is finally speaking out and taking the lead on this. If not now when? If not you then who?
28 posted on 11/12/2008 3:33:55 PM PST by CelticIrish (Who you are speaks so loudly I can not hear a word you are saying.)
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To: pissant

My motto is “Abortion will continue to be legal and practiced in this Country as long as “Christians” continue to VOTE for it!” They are a large enough voting block to make a difference in the elections. But they, including some members of my family, insist on voting democrat regardless of the stance on butchering the unborn. They claim to be “born again”, yet won’t grant others the chance to be born the first time.


29 posted on 11/12/2008 3:52:13 PM PST by fishnuts2 (Proud to be a bitter clinger.)
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To: pissant

I’m not Catholic, but I did run into many in the MD, VA, and PA area who didn’t care about the abortion issue and supported Obama. Get upset if you want too but I have read articles where the Vatican praised Obama.

The key issue to all of this is ... people are going to have to understand they can’t have it both ways... the middle of the road gave us the most liberal, obnoxious, arrogant POS since the founding of this nation.

Off to find articles to prove my point on this one...


30 posted on 11/12/2008 3:56:20 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Paige

You done read wrong. I’m not upset, just don’t have time to educate you right now on the RCC’s consistent and constant position on Abortion.

My coworker is a Souther Baptist. He campaigned for Obama. I try not to judge the entire group of baptists by this idiot.


31 posted on 11/12/2008 4:01:19 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

If the bishops had been doing their jobs for the last 40 years, we wouldn’t have had a generation of Catholic voters thinking it was okay to vote for someone like Obama.


32 posted on 11/12/2008 4:35:19 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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As of 2001, 48% of blacks were Baptists. Look how they voted. What is wrong with the Baptist Church?

And Catholics are roughly 22% of the country versus 53% protestant.

BTW, the majority of white catholics voted for McCain. Black and hispanics prefered the marxist.


33 posted on 11/12/2008 5:02:19 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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