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MSNBC retracts false Palin story; others duped
AP via SFGate ^ | 11/12/8 | DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

Posted on 11/12/2008 8:40:24 PM PST by SmithL

NEW YORK, (AP) -- MSNBC was the victim of a hoax when it reported that an adviser to John McCain had identified himself as the source of an embarrassing story about former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, the network said Wednesday.

David Shuster, an anchor for the cable news network, said on air Monday that Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, had come forth and identified himself as the source of a Fox News Channel story saying Palin had mistakenly believed Africa was a country instead of a continent.

Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. Yet neither he nor the institute exist; each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, the New York Times reported Wednesday.

The Eisenstadt claim had mistakenly been delivered to Shuster by a producer and was used in a political discussion Monday afternoon, MSNBC said.

"The story was not properly vetted and should not have made air," said Jeremy Gaines, network spokesman. "We recognized the error almost immediately and ran a correction on air within minutes."

Gaines told the Times that someone in the network's newsroom had presumed the information solid because it was passed along in an e-mail from a colleague.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008electionbias; africa; cameron; carlcameron; danmirvish; david; davidshuster; eisenstadt; eitangorlin; fakebutaccurate; gorlin; hoax; libmyths; mirvish; msnbc; mudslinging; myths; palin; palinattacks; pmsnbc; saracuda; sarahpalin; satire; shuster; yellowjouralism; zogbyism
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Fake, but accurate?

It doesn't matter, they've got an agenda.

1 posted on 11/12/2008 8:40:24 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

how many democrat tv viewers will be repeating this story for decades?


2 posted on 11/12/2008 8:42:50 PM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: devolve; ntnychik

Interesting ping.


3 posted on 11/12/2008 8:43:16 PM PST by potlatch
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To: SmithL

I thought I heard Rachel Madcow using the talking points the other night.


4 posted on 11/12/2008 8:43:27 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SmithL

how does one explain the Carl Cameron jabs. Didn’t he ‘pal around with the McCain campaign and know his sources? This is all a bunch of horse hooey!


5 posted on 11/12/2008 8:44:29 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

Carl Cameron is this elections Dan Rather. He especially owes the Gov an apology. And BOR can suck it too.


6 posted on 11/12/2008 8:45:49 PM PST by redk
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To: SmithL
Gaines told the Times that someone in the network's newsroom had presumed the information solid because it was passed along in an e-mail from a colleague.

Oh yeah - I bet this guy is still waiting for his million dollar pay-offs from his Nigerian buddies...
Thank goodness for the integrity of our MSM watchdogs. Don't know what we would do without them (-cough-)...

7 posted on 11/12/2008 8:45:54 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: SmithL; All
"someone in the network's newsroom had presumed the information solid because it was passed along in an e-mail from a colleague"

Well, sure, that's reasonable, "an email from a colleague" is all that's needed as "research" and corroboration. /sarcasm

Hell, that's almost as good as "we pulled it out of Dan Rather's a-- but don't want to admit to that!"

Gee, to think that the Mediascum love to sneer at the Pajama brigades, but here we have PMSNBC admitting that they aired a "story" simply because one hack emailed it to another hack. Wow, what rigorous "gate-keepers" you are there at PMSNBC.

8 posted on 11/12/2008 8:46:43 PM PST by Enchante (Make Fox News come clean on the hoax attacks on Governor Sarah Palin!!!)
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To: SmithL
Watch for Keith Overbite to come out and tell us that the source of the story was actually Keyser Söze
9 posted on 11/12/2008 8:47:05 PM PST by Chairman of the Bard
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To: SmithL
it had it's desired effect....that's all that matters

(keep your friends close and your enemies closer)

10 posted on 11/12/2008 8:47:31 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (LIBERAL MEDIA PICKS GOP CANDIDATE STORY AT 11:00!)
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To: SmithL
LOL... Another example of the numerous layers of editors and fact checkers that the Internet and bloggers just don't have.
11 posted on 11/12/2008 8:49:36 PM PST by RJL
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To: redk

I find Carl Cameron to have a career destroying lisp that is likely a hint at a private and socially unacceptable habit. What it is, I couldn’t fathom, but I won’t invite him to be around the kids.


12 posted on 11/12/2008 8:50:16 PM PST by healy61
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To: SmithL
This hoax, covered already, sounds like an attempt
by the Romney operatives to create something far from themselves.

"Almost every critical remark made about Palin
on a recent briefing call about her selection came from political consultants
with ties to Romney. Those comments were planted, says one,
because they knew that reporters would be on the call."

[Washington Prowler, American Spectator, Storm Center, 9/2/2008]

This reminds Conservatives of Romney's fake badges and attacks on Sen Thompson.

Novak: Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign

Said Novak: The rumors were "traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."

13 posted on 11/12/2008 8:50:18 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: SmithL
Just two of the 78% of secular American Jews who voted for Obama. I guess we didn't pander hard enough!
14 posted on 11/12/2008 8:50:54 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now the Che Guevara Republicans. Get radical or get lost!)
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To: ken21

sheesh, how many people HERE on FR still think he’s real?

“Free Martin Eisenstadt!”


15 posted on 11/12/2008 8:53:58 PM PST by bigbob
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To: SmithL
"The story was not properly vetted and should not have made air," said Jeremy Gaines, network spokesman.

So was the "President elect" not vetted properly and can you issue an apology for That One and then we can go on with life as usual after he gets omitted from any further political jobs in his life?

16 posted on 11/12/2008 8:54:09 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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To: redk

I listened to Greta earlier talk to O’Reilly and she said that Carl Cameron had called her and said he was sorry he had reported the story. I don’t know if that will make it to Governor Palin but at least there is an admission herer that he didn’t do his homework.


17 posted on 11/12/2008 8:54:59 PM PST by Moconservative
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To: healy61

OUCH!


18 posted on 11/12/2008 8:55:52 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Moconservative

He needs to go on tv admit he was wrong. Telling Greta isn’t enough after the way he reported the whole thing.


19 posted on 11/12/2008 8:56:33 PM PST by redk
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To: ken21

Nobody.


20 posted on 11/12/2008 8:57:25 PM PST by fatima
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To: SmithL

I’m disillusioned.

I always believed the media made up their own nonexistant sources.


21 posted on 11/12/2008 8:58:12 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: SmithL

(yawn) MSNBC
I hope all 15 of their viewers noticed the retraction.


22 posted on 11/12/2008 8:58:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: redk

I agree! I think O’Reilly was surprised when he heard it. I bet there is some phone calls being placed to make sure that this thing is put to bed properly. Fox News will make a statement and I hope Cameron comes out and apologizes.


23 posted on 11/12/2008 8:59:11 PM PST by Moconservative
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To: fatima

there are democrat tv viewers that still

think that the democrat party is for the working person!


24 posted on 11/12/2008 8:59:47 PM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: healy61
What it is, I couldn’t fathom, but I won’t invite him to be around the kids.

And he wiggles too. Drives me crazy.

25 posted on 11/12/2008 9:00:08 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: bigbob

Eisenstadt/LaRouche 2012!!


26 posted on 11/12/2008 9:00:15 PM PST by Chairman of the Bard
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To: Moconservative
I listened to Greta earlier talk to O’Reilly and she said that Carl Cameron had called her and said he was sorry he had reported the story. I don’t know if that will make it to Governor Palin but at least there is an admission herer that he didn’t do his homework.

Is this true? Cameron would need to come on the air and apologize.

27 posted on 11/12/2008 9:00:17 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: April Lexington

Well, maybe more like ‘just two of the 98% of fruits who voted for Obama’.


28 posted on 11/12/2008 9:01:05 PM PST by raptor29
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To: raptor29

Better said. Thanks!


29 posted on 11/12/2008 9:04:09 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now the Che Guevara Republicans. Get radical or get lost!)
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To: Moconservative
I listened to Greta earlier talk to O’Reilly and she said that Carl Cameron had called her and said he was sorry he had reported the story.

What night was that?

30 posted on 11/12/2008 9:04:10 PM PST by Nonperson (Live Free or Die!)
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To: potlatch

.

MSNBC is in the pits on ratings and Oberwoman gets $7 million dollar contract

Say goodnight NBC and GE!


31 posted on 11/12/2008 9:06:13 PM PST by devolve ( ____"hussein the creepy" -- Evan Thomas - Nudesweek ____)
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To: SmithL

Well gooooly- whoda thunk it? ‘Professional reporters’ ‘duped’ by ‘annonymous sources’? Tell me it aint so Dan Rather!

The McCain Senior campaign manager was on Fox news tonight and he flat out stated that not one single reporter called the McCain Campaign to check out if those annonymous accusations were factual or had any merrit at all- He also said that for 2 years now, a annonymous ‘leak’ has escaped from the McCain ‘camp’ and NOONE EVER called to confirm any of it!

Face it- the MSM is going downhill on an Canola oil greased slab of teflon (and hte proof of it is the fact that they bemoan the fact that bloggers are ‘ruining the news’ almost nightly now- but the fact is theat bloggers are EXPOSING their lies and actually holding htem accoutnable for the lies they tell because words have meaning- somethign the MSM has forgotten!!!


32 posted on 11/12/2008 9:06:25 PM PST by CottShop
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To: Nonperson

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2131228/posts
Greta Argues with O’Reilly over Carl Cameron ‘gossip’ on Sarah Palin.

This was an earlier post where you can go to the story and the interview is on the LA Times blog.


33 posted on 11/12/2008 9:13:16 PM PST by Moconservative
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To: Chairman of the Bard

A good one. I know that movie reference.


34 posted on 11/12/2008 9:13:42 PM PST by donaldo
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To: ken21
(((((Hugs))))There were a little over 50 percent in my count for cable viewers.Of that MSNBC were at the bottom.For the average viewer with broadcast TV and maybe cable their effect is 0.Most people watch the local news and sports.
35 posted on 11/12/2008 9:19:10 PM PST by fatima
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks Di, you said it better than I could.

However:

ROMNEY AIDES WORKING FOR MCCAIN DISHED SARAH PALIN THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION TO KNOCK HER OUT OF THE RUNNING FOR 2012.


36 posted on 11/12/2008 9:23:34 PM PST by IreneE ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy." - my paraphrase of Thomas Aquinas)
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To: SmithL
They reported it because they wanted to believe it was true, or thought that it was plausible given their elitist worldview. I still think Palin needs to crack open a few books, but she certainly is getting stronger by the day. If she can survive this and keep her nose clean the next couple of years, she'll be a formidable candidate in 2012. She has taken far more of a beating than President Soetero has, so she'll be battle-tested.
37 posted on 11/12/2008 9:26:47 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Enjoying the final death throes of the dinosaur media.)
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To: CottShop; Diogenesis
Yeah, but no one bothers to check out the McCain staffer who actually did prep Palin.

He said McCain aides were in and out of the room and could have picked up snippets of the conversation about Africa and NAFTA and take them out of context.

This story had legs because there was some twisted truth in it: Palin was prepped in that room by that man.

So the hoax story guy got his news SOMEWHERE, however distorted it was.

Romney is the source of the twisted rumors. No if ands or buts. He knows how to play the MSM.

38 posted on 11/12/2008 9:27:25 PM PST by IreneE ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy." - my paraphrase of Thomas Aquinas)
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To: SmithL

Never once heard any news organization say it was false until after the election.


39 posted on 11/12/2008 9:36:34 PM PST by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: SmithL

Is not the first time, will not be the last.


40 posted on 11/12/2008 9:37:00 PM PST by Force of Truth (The "common good" will make us all common.)
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To: SmithL

So when will FOX air their retraction?


41 posted on 11/12/2008 9:45:58 PM PST by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: bigbob
sheesh, how many people HERE on FR still think he’s real?

Quite a few.
42 posted on 11/12/2008 9:48:50 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: GVnana

When we stop watching.


43 posted on 11/12/2008 9:59:05 PM PST by fatima
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To: Force of Truth

Cameron is the guy who started the rumors and he’s the guy who can name the source. Who’s he protecting, this is not Watergate, it’s an internal party matter. Fox News shares the blame because not only they did their air the rumors, they did it three or four times. Hemmer even justified it by saying you can trust Cameron. If Hemmer had given that answer in journalism school, he would have flunked. Cameron deserves to be fired.


44 posted on 11/12/2008 10:00:13 PM PST by idov
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To: Moconservative

Boy is O’Reilly going to have egg on his face tomorrow.


45 posted on 11/12/2008 10:01:34 PM PST by rintense (I don't wanna gain the whole world and lose my soul~ TobyMac (are you listening Obamabots?))
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To: SmithL

and so it goes....


46 posted on 11/12/2008 10:07:55 PM PST by screaming eagle2
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To: pissant

Gee, do you think Rachel Madcow will retract the story? These people make me sick.


47 posted on 11/12/2008 10:10:02 PM PST by GipperGal
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To: SmithL
It doesn't matter, they've got an agenda.

It doesn't matter, they have achieved their goal...

48 posted on 11/12/2008 10:10:57 PM PST by citizencon
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To: RJL
LOL... Another example of the numerous layers of editors and fact checkers that the Internet and bloggers just don't have.

Seriously. Thank God the professional media establishment is there to hold the line against poorly vetted hearsay.

What would we do without them?

49 posted on 11/12/2008 10:13:57 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: idov

Fox news sucks. I know they claim to be “fair an balanced” but that only equates to a few mediocre commentators. The rest are liberal liars.


50 posted on 11/12/2008 10:14:42 PM PST by Force of Truth (The "common good" will make us all common.)
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