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EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration?
Debbieschlussel.com ^ | 11/13/2008 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 11/13/2008 12:08:24 PM PST by Danae

November 13, 2008 EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama's Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions

By Debbie Schlussel

**** Copyright 2008, Must Cite Debbie Schlussel and link to DebbieSchlussel.com ****

*** SCROLL DOWN FOR UPDATE ***

Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him?

It's either one or the other, as indicated by the release of Barack Obama's official Selective Service registration for the draft. A friend of mine, who is a retired federal agent, spent almost a year trying to obtain this document through a Freedom of Information Act request, and, after much stonewalling, finally received it and released it to me.

But the release of Obama's draft registration and an accompanying document, posted below, raises more questions than it answers. And it shows many signs of fraud, not to mention putting the lie to Obama's claim that he registered for the draft in June 1979, before it was required by law.

(Excerpt) Read more at debbieschlussel.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2008; breaking; certifigate; cicobama; fraud; obama; obamatruthfile; schlussel; selectiveservice
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Why didn't this come out before the election??
1 posted on 11/13/2008 12:08:25 PM PST by Danae
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To: Danae

Can he still go to jail for it, or is it already past the statute of limitations?


2 posted on 11/13/2008 2:46:44 PM PST by messierhunter
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To: Danae
0bama is an habitual liar and has never been held accountable. This didn't come out before the election because the entire Big Media wanted him to win. FoxNews had several damning stories about him but the Big Media never picked any of those up. The fix was in a long time ago.
3 posted on 11/13/2008 2:47:30 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Danae
The Rat Saint is above the law.
4 posted on 11/13/2008 2:50:59 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: Danae
"* Obama's Selective Service Registration Form is Apparently 1990 Form Altered to Appear Like 1980 Form"


5 posted on 11/13/2008 2:53:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Danae
Why didn't this come out before the election??

It would have mattered about as much as Clinton's draft Dodging
6 posted on 11/13/2008 2:55:14 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Danae
Why didn't this come out before the election??

It would have mattered about as much as Clinton's draft Dodging
7 posted on 11/13/2008 2:55:36 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Danae
At least I did a search on the word selective in the title before I posted this !

ML/NJ

8 posted on 11/13/2008 2:58:26 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: messierhunter

Nevermind, if he faked this sucker in 08 as it appears, then he’s prosecutable. Let’s see justice served.


9 posted on 11/13/2008 2:58:56 PM PST by messierhunter
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To: LucyT
Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him?

good question.

10 posted on 11/13/2008 3:00:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Danae

My big question was whether he was even calling himself “Barak Obama” at the time. He went through school, I believe, as Barry Dunham or Barry Obama. While he was registered in Indonesia as Barry Soetero, I don’t think he ever attended school in the US under that name.

But what name was he using in 1979?


11 posted on 11/13/2008 3:02:04 PM PST by livius
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To: Danae

In checking the image headers with a hex editor, just like Obama’s forged COLB, both Selective Service images have “Ducky” and “Adobe” embedded in each image.


12 posted on 11/13/2008 3:02:08 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

I am trying to find out where his social security card was issued. One source says that the first three numbers indicate california.

Anyone know?


13 posted on 11/13/2008 3:06:40 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Danae

LEAVE OBAMA ALONE! I’M GETTIN’ MUH REPARATIONS! 40 ACRES AND A LEXUS!!!


14 posted on 11/13/2008 3:07:12 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Danae
And these are the people bragging that their administration will be 'transparent' and insisting that the Bush administration save all documents. Liars, frauds, and hypocrites.

It won't matter anyway, most of his voters were against the Iraq war and against a draft, so they'll be onboard with his fakery.

Ironic that it might be Barry, the Selective Service dodger, who reinstates an active draft.

It has been asked befo whether Barry was here as a 'foreign student,' making him exempt fro Selective Service.

15 posted on 11/13/2008 3:08:19 PM PST by informavoracious (It's after midnight, I'm FReepwalking...)
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To: Danae
Is there some way to verify if (808) 949-2317 (from the Selective Service form) was his grandmother's phone number in 1980?

An online reverse phone number search shows "ML Dunham, 1617 S Beretania St, Honolulu, HI 96826," but that's going to be from a 2007-8 directory, not a 1980 directory or phone book.

If that number was under a name other than ML Dunham, it's probably a forged Selective Service form.

16 posted on 11/13/2008 3:09:51 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: RummyChick

What are the first 3 numbers? Can’t read it now. You can probably find out online.


17 posted on 11/13/2008 3:10:56 PM PST by informavoracious (It's after midnight, I'm FReepwalking...)
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To: informavoracious

Maybe the electors at the Electoral College will take note of this and elect someone else?? Right!!!

We have gone beyond the Manchurian Candidate here, we have the biggest scam ever to be perpetrated on the electorate in this election. Who said you could go broke over estimating the intelligence of the average voter...give him a nobel prize.

Vince


18 posted on 11/13/2008 3:11:05 PM PST by Mouton
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To: RummyChick

“I am trying to find out where his social security card was issued. One source says that the first three numbers indicate california.

Anyone know?”

What are the numbers? Usually the first 3 numbers indicate the state of issue. There are some exceptions....railroad employees at one time, to name one.


19 posted on 11/13/2008 3:12:38 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: Danae

Because it wasn’t released until a few days before the election.


20 posted on 11/13/2008 3:16:06 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: BP2

Why does the year read A8D? He means A.D.?


21 posted on 11/13/2008 3:16:51 PM PST by library user
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To: AuntB

Could it be that this was forged because he was not living as an american citizen at the time (1979-80) and would not have been required to register?


22 posted on 11/13/2008 3:16:52 PM PST by wewereright
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To: Danae

It’s been out there but don’t remember if it was on FR or some other forum in which I saw some comments. Not sure what this does or would have done to change his supporters votes for him though.


23 posted on 11/13/2008 3:21:41 PM PST by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: AuntB

I am taking 611 as the first three numbers. In many places on the web it is saying unissued for that set but I found one that says it is from California.


24 posted on 11/13/2008 3:23:15 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: library user
Why does the year read A8D? He means A.D.?

It doesn't. The 1 and 9 run together, so it looks like an A.

25 posted on 11/13/2008 3:24:07 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: wewereright

I think it is 1981 when he travels to Pakistan on the Indonesian passport..or at least that is one theory since Americans weren’t freely allowed to travel there.


26 posted on 11/13/2008 3:25:10 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: AuntB

start here Check out question #19

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php?p_page=1&p_cv=1.16&p_pv=&p_prods=&p_cats=16


27 posted on 11/13/2008 3:26:18 PM PST by Master of Orion
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To: Polarik

ping for look at document.


28 posted on 11/13/2008 3:26:45 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: RummyChick

Here is a site that says 611 is California
http://www.einvestigator.com/links/social_security_numbers.htm


29 posted on 11/13/2008 3:28:05 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Anyone know at what age it was required to have a social security number in the 60’s -if it was required.

If 611 is his social security number then it appears it came from California.


30 posted on 11/13/2008 3:32:10 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Mine is 042 for CT. I was born in Michigan. Moved to MA and then CT in 1961.


31 posted on 11/13/2008 3:36:25 PM PST by George from New England (now from north of Tampa Bay)
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To: BP2
Is there some way to verify if (808) 949-2317 (from the Selective Service form) was his grandmother's phone number in 1980?

As someone who has done a lot of genealogical research, I can tell anyone out there that bigger libraries will have copies of the phone books for major cities going back decades. Most likely is in Hawaii itself, following by Kalifornia. The bigger the library, the better.

Also, if someone were to bring up grandma's credit record (it can hardly be private, now that she's dead), it'd probably have information going back quite a while.

32 posted on 11/13/2008 3:37:18 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: Danae

ping for later read


33 posted on 11/13/2008 3:39:16 PM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: Jet Jaguar; RummyChick
Why did Obama only write the last two digits of the year for his birth year (61) --- at the top of the form --- but wrote out all four digits (1980) at the bottom?

I have isolated in red circles below what I think was originally on the form at the bottom --- 90 --- for 1990. This would make the "0" go up at an angle, but if you look at how he wrote "Obama" as well as his zip code (96826) on the same form - these are on an upward slant as well.

What do you think? Should I put down the bong? :O)


34 posted on 11/13/2008 3:39:59 PM PST by library user
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To: George from New England
You have to have a social security number to claim the child on your tax return. How to get a number

We can accept only certain documents as proof of U.S. citizenship. These include a U.S. birth certificate, U.S. consular report of birth, U.S. passport, Certificate of Naturalization or Certificate of Citizenship. Noncitizens should see Social Security Numbers For Noncitizens (Publication No. 05-10096) for more information.
35 posted on 11/13/2008 3:40:36 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: library user

I wonder if that is someone else marking up the form. notice the different birth date and the way it has HI above Hawaii.

And as some poster pointed out..when did he start going by that name?


36 posted on 11/13/2008 3:42:26 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Danae

ping


37 posted on 11/13/2008 3:42:28 PM PST by CriticalJ
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To: RummyChick

That rule doesn’t go back more than 20 or so years.

Back before the 70s one only needed SN to work and pay taxes. Only since the welfare system infected the IRS did the SSN number be required at birth.


38 posted on 11/13/2008 3:42:32 PM PST by George from New England (now from north of Tampa Bay)
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To: RummyChick

I was going to say the same thing. I have done quite a bit of reading on his background and am nowhere near convinced he was using “Obama” in 1980 - most likely Soetoro. He would have been five days shy of his 19th birthday when he allegedly completed this form by hand.


39 posted on 11/13/2008 3:46:26 PM PST by library user
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To: library user

Here is a timeline that indicates he may have changed his name in late 1980
http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

But here is the significant thing to me.

Did he just get his social security number when he moved to California to go to College. Just when did he go to california and who was claiming him on their tax returns before then. Did the US Government require a social security number for children back then if claiming as a Dependent?

Hawaii was already a state when Obama was born.


40 posted on 11/13/2008 3:50:02 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: George from New England

How did you claim your children as a dependent back then. What about when Barry was a teenager in the 70s?


41 posted on 11/13/2008 3:52:29 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Also, an individual's handwriting tends to evolve somewhat over time. Doesn't look like the handwriting of a 19-year-old kid to me. Unfortunately, the only other handwriting of his I've seen is the cursive-style which he used recently at the Wall in Jerusalem, so can't really make a fair comparison.


42 posted on 11/13/2008 3:53:43 PM PST by library user
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To: RummyChick

Check out this story . I wonder if it is true.
http://www.zimbio.com/USA+Presidential+Campaign+2008/articles/181/Obama+visited+Pakistan+Didn+t+learn+anything


43 posted on 11/13/2008 3:56:19 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Here is a timeline that indicates he may have changed his name in late 1980

Since this document is mid-1980, he would probably still have been using Soetoro at the time, one would think.

44 posted on 11/13/2008 3:58:26 PM PST by library user
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To: RummyChick

“Mine is 042 for CT. I was born in Michigan. Moved to MA and then CT in 1961.”

You gotta realize you are talking about my parent’s return. My Dad isn’t here anymore to ask.

Hmm. It is possible that this SSN/IRS change and when the cut over date was could reveal something in the BO situation.


45 posted on 11/13/2008 3:59:03 PM PST by George from New England (now from north of Tampa Bay)
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To: Danae
Here's the rest of the info posted at http://www.debbieschlussel.com/.
46 posted on 11/13/2008 3:59:09 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: library user

I think the info about the form in the lower left hand corner is the most damning. In other words, it can’t be a 1980 form.


47 posted on 11/13/2008 4:07:57 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: library user

I don’t buy the 90 idea. He wouldn’t make a 0 that small. Look at the 808 in his area code, too. The 8s look just like those in 1980 and the zero is large.


48 posted on 11/13/2008 4:08:31 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: messierhunter

WOW, I finally got back into Freep. I could not even tell if it Posted or not! I guess it did. This should be Prosecuted regardless, its a Federal offense.


49 posted on 11/13/2008 4:14:51 PM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

LMAO I am ALMOST tempted to say Sign me up, but I am a FReeper, so I will get pwnt and biotch-slapped while in line...

LOL


50 posted on 11/13/2008 4:17:40 PM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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