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SC priest: No communion for Obama supporters
Ass Press via Breitbart ^ | Nov 13, 2008 | MEG KINNARD

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:43:36 PM PST by upchuck

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) - A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."

The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.

"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.

"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exits constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."

During the 2008 campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.

But bishops differ on whether Catholic lawmakers—and voters—should refrain from receiving Communion if they diverge from church teaching on abortion. Each bishop sets policy in his own diocese. In their annual fall meeting, the nation's Catholic bishops vowed Tuesday to forcefully confront the Obama administration over its support for abortion rights.

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Slowly but surely, the Catholic powers that be are developing some spine.

Related: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2131061/posts

1 posted on 11/13/2008 4:43:36 PM PST by upchuck
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To: 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; A Strict Constructionist; ...
South Carolina Ping

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2 posted on 11/13/2008 4:44:31 PM PST by upchuck (Law of Logical Argument: Anything's possible if you don't know what you're talking about. => nObama))
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To: upchuck

Abortion must end.

Katherine Jenerette

3 posted on 11/13/2008 4:46:37 PM PST by kjenerette (www.jenerette.org - U.S. Army Paratrooper - U.S. Congress 2010)
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To: upchuck
A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama

Call me stunned. Finally.

There is hope.

4 posted on 11/13/2008 4:46:45 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: upchuck

Awesome. About time.

Now excommunicate Kerry, Kennedy and Pelosi openly...


5 posted on 11/13/2008 4:47:10 PM PST by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: upchuck

WOW!!!! I was SHOCKED at first......but the man is RIGHT!


6 posted on 11/13/2008 4:47:27 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Wish it had been said before the election.


7 posted on 11/13/2008 4:48:33 PM PST by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: upchuck
Unfortunately the letter to parishioners was two weeks too late!
8 posted on 11/13/2008 4:49:54 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

Knowing this priest and his parish, I can assure you that they’d heard it before. St. Mary’s Greenville is a special place, and he’s a special priest.


9 posted on 11/13/2008 4:51:36 PM PST by Campion
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To: Natural Law

The actual bulletin article from Father Jay Scott Newman can be found here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2131732/posts


10 posted on 11/13/2008 4:52:41 PM PST by csistrueblue (I'm glad I homeschool Ping!)
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To: upchuck; wagglebee; NYer; monkapotamus; All

I hope the bishop had their donation money because after that his powerful donors won’t be writing more checks there some cathoic who dont’ want be preach too


11 posted on 11/13/2008 4:53:01 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: upchuck

Obama supporters already worship at the altar of the Messiah so what’s their problem?


12 posted on 11/13/2008 4:53:25 PM PST by exist
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To: upchuck

bttt


13 posted on 11/13/2008 4:53:36 PM PST by soupcon
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To: xmission; Natural Law

He may very well have warned parishoners before the election that their vote would have consequences. There’s no way that story would have been reported, though. The msm needed the CINO vote to go to 0bama too badly.


14 posted on 11/13/2008 4:53:44 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: upchuck

This guy has courage...Congrats to him.


15 posted on 11/13/2008 4:55:52 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: upchuck
Barrack “Intrinsic Evil” Obama. Has a certain ring to it....
16 posted on 11/13/2008 4:57:21 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: upchuck

Let the excommunications begin!


17 posted on 11/13/2008 4:58:04 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: SevenofNine

Naw... St. Mary’s isn’t like that. We have several conservative traditional churches up here, and they are growing growing growing.
Most of the parishes up here take an active role in the pro-life movement.
For a few weeks up to the election, our church had a “graveyard” of crosses and several signs saying “vote pro-life” at the entrance driveway, which is on a fairly busy road. You couldn’t miss it.


18 posted on 11/13/2008 4:58:29 PM PST by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: upchuck

This guy will cave, and his bishop will tell him to. Maybe I’m cynical, but this guy will drive parishioners out of the church and the hierarchy won’t stand for that or the decrease in cash flow that will follow them leaving.


19 posted on 11/13/2008 4:59:25 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Its nice to know there’s still a few Catholics left in the priesthood and hierarchy.


20 posted on 11/13/2008 4:59:43 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

21 posted on 11/13/2008 5:00:58 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: Balding_Eagle

brave man - he will suffer


22 posted on 11/13/2008 5:01:12 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: visualops

Well I hope he doesn’t get transfer to Frisco or Los Angeles apparently he lose lots of money from wealthy pro choice donors


23 posted on 11/13/2008 5:01:28 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Balding_Eagle
Call me stunned. Finally. There is hope.

I'm only half-stunned. Had he said "we will refrain from offering parishioners Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama", I'd be fully stunned.

24 posted on 11/13/2008 5:02:45 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: exist
Obama supporters already worship at the altar of the Messiah Antichrist, so what’s their problem?


There, fixed it.
25 posted on 11/13/2008 5:02:46 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: RKV

No he won’t.
Secondly, we are actually without a bishop right now. Our (former) Bishop Baker is very conservative and is now the Bishop of the diocese of Birmingham. Additionally, our archbishop is conservative too, and he and Bishop Baker and another bishop were the 3 that wrote the letter during the ‘04 election stating Catholics like Kerry should be denied communion.


26 posted on 11/13/2008 5:03:43 PM PST by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: narses

40 million purnishments prevented from taking their first breath in the past 20 years.


27 posted on 11/13/2008 5:03:51 PM PST by classified
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To: SevenofNine

Why do you keep saying that nonsense?


28 posted on 11/13/2008 5:04:33 PM PST by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: kjenerette

Wow, what an impressive lady!


29 posted on 11/13/2008 5:06:42 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: upchuck

Denying communion because of who someone voted for? Many people didn’t even think about abortion when they voted for O or any dem for that matter. They voted for a variety of reasons. While I like his stand against abortion I find his reasoning idiotic. Sorry. This one goes in my stupid file.


30 posted on 11/13/2008 5:06:43 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

If you are Catholic and do not see the logic in what he says, then you are stupid.


31 posted on 11/13/2008 5:10:26 PM PST by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members of the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: SevenofNine

The biggest donors in the Church are orthodox. They donate much, actually believe what the Church teaches and never miss Mass.


32 posted on 11/13/2008 5:10:40 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: upchuck

Please send Father an email of appreciation and prayers for him to stay strong...he is right! I sent one!

http://www.stmarysgvl.org/contact/?contactID=2#sendEmail


33 posted on 11/13/2008 5:11:28 PM PST by missanne (If we lost the war in Iraq, who won?)
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To: plain talk

Are you Catholic?


34 posted on 11/13/2008 5:12:53 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: upchuck
Each bishop sets policy in his own diocese.

So much for looking to the Church for guidance. I was amazed to learn that my mother's priest, whose parish is in one of the most conservative counties in TEXAS, completely washed his hands of this issue. He held an all night vigil the night before election day, in which he invoked the parishioners to pray that God's will be served by the peoples' choice. Then she went and voted for OBAMA! She was amazed when I told her about Obama's votes on BAIPA. She knew nothing. The priest had told his flock nothing.

35 posted on 11/13/2008 5:13:49 PM PST by giotto
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To: upchuck

Well, an important thing to consider about all of this, is that if the priests and bishops do not do this, and they knowingly give these unrepentant people communion, they are also guilty of allowing them to partake in communion, and taking damnation upon themselves.


36 posted on 11/13/2008 5:16:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: SevenofNine
...powerful donors won’t be writing more checks....

God will take care of his own. God bless the bishop.

37 posted on 11/13/2008 5:18:54 PM PST by tbpiper (Now irate and tireless, but mostly irate.)
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To: upchuck

Great decision! Let’s see how long the Priest can make it and whether or not the Priest will succumb to the pressure of the liberals.

This is when we need to stand up for our principles, folks.

JoMa


38 posted on 11/13/2008 5:20:04 PM PST by joma89
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To: guido911

If you are a CHRISTIAN and do not see the logic in what he says, then you are stupid.

And then some....


39 posted on 11/13/2008 5:21:27 PM PST by mom4melody
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To: xmission

I hope other priests do the same...it’s about time. Bishops are also coming down hard.


40 posted on 11/13/2008 5:21:59 PM PST by prayerfullywaiting
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To: silverleaf

We will suffer together. It has gone on long enough. Little pain compared to what the little ones have gone through.


41 posted on 11/13/2008 5:24:17 PM PST by prayerfullywaiting
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To: upchuck

My pastor until I moved from SC. Fearless and smart as a whip.

If you’re a Catholic, you know that most priests are pretty lame homilists - if you get a good sermon, it’s the exception, not the rule. You just don’t generally get the lively, fiery preaching you see in a lot of Protestant churches.

Newman didn’t have a Billy Graham style, but he was an excellent public speaker, and his sermons were always well-thought-out and very incisive. And amazingly enough - given his background - very old school Roman Catholic - you would have thought he was a pre-Vatican II Catholic.

In fact, Newman grew up in a conventional Southern Protestant household (I’ve forgotten the denomination), became an atheist in high school, went to an Ivy League school (Princeton?), and in college returned to Christianity as an orthodox Catholic.

Having lived a good portion of my life in the heart of the Southern Baptist Bible belt, I have no doubt that those Southern Protestants who’ve made the move to Rome have been a real benefit to the Catholic Church - Newman’s a prime example. And I have nothing but admiration for those Protestants who’ve made common cause with Catholics against the corrosive secular influences eating away at our culture, abortion being the worst.


42 posted on 11/13/2008 5:24:46 PM PST by Stosh
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To: vladimir998

We must obey the law of God before the law of man. Simple as that.


43 posted on 11/13/2008 5:26:27 PM PST by prayerfullywaiting
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To: Stosh

Some of the strongest Catholics I know are those who have come from other faiths.


44 posted on 11/13/2008 5:29:20 PM PST by prayerfullywaiting
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To: upchuck; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
First, he must explain to his flock WHY. Sadly most just don't get it. One homily won't suffice. Many have a life time of malformed consciences.

He must endeavor to get it through to their thick skulls why a Christian can never support the culture of death. That there are no “proportionate” reasons to make voting for a pro-abort acceptable.

There are NO collection of positive attributes that outweigh being a supporter and promoter of genocide, which is what the abortionists are guilty of--genocide.

He also has to be prepared to loose half his flock or more.

Sadly most bishops would stop him.

Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

45 posted on 11/13/2008 5:33:44 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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Thank the Lord! The South has risen! I have to find that priest's email and thank him for being so brave!!!
47 posted on 11/13/2008 5:39:45 PM PST by jmj3jude
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To: upchuck

Awesome. I hope he is ready for the firestorm to follow and doesn’t back down.


49 posted on 11/13/2008 5:53:54 PM PST by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Wow I know many people think the Catholic Church is too powerful but even I never suspected they knew who one voted for.


50 posted on 11/13/2008 5:58:15 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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