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Free the GOP (Bigtime RINO Barf Alert)
Washington Post ^ | November 14, 2008 | Christine Todd Whitman and Robert M. Bostock

Posted on 11/14/2008 6:21:09 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

Four years ago, in the week after the 2004 presidential election, we were working furiously to put the finishing touches on the book we co-authored, "It's My Party Too: The Battle for the Heart of the GOP and the Future of America."

Our central thesis was simple: The Republican Party had been taken hostage by "social fundamentalists," the people who base their votes on such social issues as abortion, gay rights and stem cell research. Unless the GOP freed itself from their grip, we argued, it would so alienate itself from the broad center of the American electorate that it would become increasingly marginalized and find itself out of power.

At the time, this idea was roundly attacked by many who were convinced that holding on to the "base" at all costs was the way to go. A former speechwriter for President Bush, Matthew Scully, who went on to work for the McCain campaign this year, called the book "airy blather" and said its argument fell somewhere between "insufferable snobbery" and "complete cluelessness." Gary Bauer suggested that the book sounded as if it came from a "Michael Moore radical." National Review said its warnings were, "at best, counterintuitive," and Ann Coulter said the book was "based on conventional wisdom that is now known to be false."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitutionparty; deadelephants; gop; rino; socialconservatives
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To: goldstategop
LOUDER!

Not a single moderate Republican is left in office in New England. If centrism wins elections, the GOP should have a lot of moderates in office today.

51 posted on 11/14/2008 8:17:50 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

ebay under her espoused Net Neutrality censorship.

ebay under her espoused the view that man is basically good. Just look at the behavior of the anti-Prop 8 folks and draw your own second opinion.


52 posted on 11/14/2008 8:20:13 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Ebay? Are you thinking of Meg Whitman?


53 posted on 11/14/2008 8:21:37 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Oh come on Christy I know you left out God and Guns. Please spare me.


54 posted on 11/14/2008 8:23:57 AM PST by therut
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Yes, you are correct. I was thinking of Meg...different RINO.


55 posted on 11/14/2008 8:26:16 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Coming from the woman who barley beat the hated Florio and then barley beat the closeted swish McSveevey.


56 posted on 11/14/2008 8:31:09 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Just A Nobody

The Falcon party looks great. I can’t discern if this is meant to be a “party within a party” to organize and try to push the Republican party back to the right, or if it will be a truly independent party.


57 posted on 11/14/2008 8:37:37 AM PST by boxlunch
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Chris, I’d be more inclined to listen to the policy prescriptions of northeastern moderates if they were winning on their own turf. How’s that workin’ for ya?


58 posted on 11/14/2008 8:43:12 AM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

You know, maybe Christine is right.

We SHOULD “free” the GOP. The conservative base, Reaganites, constitutionalists, “hockey moms,” and the rest of us “unwashed” should “free” the GOP of their support. They should be free to take a flying leap.

Mark


59 posted on 11/14/2008 8:45:36 AM PST by MarkL
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To: MarkL

To say McCain lost moderates is a joke. He IS a moderate. We will never be a winning party again until we stop caring what moderates think.

I really think Right minded people should create a new Conservative Party and leave the moderates to the Republicans.


60 posted on 11/14/2008 8:56:02 AM PST by gmoore57
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

When will these idiots learn you can be both socially and fiscally and constitutionally conservative at the same time!

Conservative philosophy is unified, not divided into parts.


61 posted on 11/14/2008 8:57:16 AM PST by JSDude1 (PAUL BROUN for House Republican Minority Leader..Mike Pence for conference chair!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“Unless the Republican Party ends its self-imposed captivity to social fundamentalists, it will spend a long time in the political wilderness.”

And if it does, it will cease to exist entirely.

See tagline...


62 posted on 11/14/2008 8:57:29 AM PST by Mr Rogers (And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way - Reagan)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The rights of the unborn and protection of the institution of marriage are things we hold very dear, and there is no way in HELL we will relinquish them for the sake of a bunch of whiney RINOS, Christine.

I would suggest it is people like YOU who have damaged the party the most, and it is people like YOU who need to be handed their hats and shown the door.


63 posted on 11/14/2008 9:09:00 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Obama, you are NOT my President!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I’d like to suggest four necessary conditions for conservatives to regain control of the GOP and eliminate the destructive RINO domination.

1. GOP registration required to vote for GOP candidates so that crossover voters do not select our candidates in primaries.
2. Move primaries up in several large conservative states so that RINO-infested northeastern states no longer chose our presidential candidate.
3. Allot delegates to the GOP convention from each state based on the number of registered GOP voters in that state. Just because a state has a big population does not get you more delegates to the GOP convention- Dark blue states should not choose our candidate.
4. Divide the delegates from a state between candidates based on primary results- No more winner-take-all primaries.


64 posted on 11/14/2008 10:05:26 AM PST by Rockitz (NObama 2008- Strange we ain't believin')
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To: gmoore57
We will never be a winning party again until we stop caring what moderates think.And, we need to stop using the word "moderates", a term created by the MSM to describe turncoat Republicans more to their liking.

Call 'em "lukewarm" Republicans instead.

65 posted on 11/14/2008 10:23:47 AM PST by XR7
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To: tumblindice
The Republican Party can either stand for smaller government, lower taxes and freer people, or it can rot in hell.

That's precisely the point of the article -- as long as the GOP stands for government busybody regulation of personal conduct, they're doomed to minority status.

66 posted on 11/14/2008 11:47:14 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: WayneS
DO remember the names Whitman and Bostock, though. No more votes or support for EITHER of them. EVER.

GOP_IN_OFFICE = OLD_GOP_IN_OFFICE - 2

Lather, rinse, repeat....

67 posted on 11/14/2008 11:48:19 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Christine is making the woefully mistaken assumption that without social conservatives (and Palin) McCain would actually have won.

I didn't read it that way. Here is the gist of her argument:

In seven of the nine states that switched this year from Republican to Democratic, Obama's vote total exceeded the total won by President Bush four years ago. So even if McCain had equaled the president's numbers from 2004 (and he did not), he still would have lost in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina and Virginia (81 total electoral votes) -- and lost the election. McCain didn't lose those states because he failed to hold the base. He lost them because Obama broadened his base.

Nor did the Republican ticket lose because "values voters" stayed home. On the contrary, according to exit polls, such voters made up a larger proportion of the electorate this year than in 2004 -- 26 percent, up from 23 percent. Extrapolating from those data, McCain actually won more votes from self-identified white evangelical/born-again voters than Bush did four years ago -- 1.8 million more. But that was not enough to offset the loss of so many moderates.

She is saying that McCain's winning strategy, if he had one, would be to expand his support among independent voters. There aren't enough social conservatives to win a national election; even if McCain had done just as well as Bush did in 2004 (and in some ways he did better) it isn't enough if you lose the independent voters in the middle.

The thing she assumes, of course, is that McCain could have kept the social conservatives on board and still reached out more to the middle. Given his questionable bona fides with the base, he was probably damned if he did, and damned if he didn't this time around.

68 posted on 11/14/2008 2:17:52 PM PST by Dick Holmes
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Morons will always be morons. The GOP should dump all the morons and retards that run it in Washington.


69 posted on 11/14/2008 2:41:23 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Christy wrote "On Nov. 4, the American people very clearly rejected the politics of demonization and divisionjo"

Oh right! "Clinging to their guns and religion" isn't demonization and division. And Bush wasn't demonized.

BS. Obama just did a better job of it. And if demonization didn't work, Obama's crew would not have worked so hard to stop the ad about his connection to Ayers.

And it isn't demonization if it is true. McCain made a major mistake by not addressing the real concerns about Obama's relations with folks like Wright and Ayers.

Now we have to live with Obama, because McCain was too polite to call a snake a snake.

Just like NJ had to live with McGreevey because Christy knew but refused to talk about his corruption (and I'm not talking about the gay part, but $$ corruption).

70 posted on 11/14/2008 3:36:03 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Christine Todd Whitman is free to do and say whatever she wants -- because she is acting and speaking as a Republican.

Were she a Democrat, she could act and say exactly as she is now doing. But she would not be allowed to do otherwise.

Obviously, she is too stupid to realize this...

Consequently, other Republicans are under no obligation to follow her "advice".

Pound sand, Christine. Abandon the GOP and join the Democrats. I couldn't care less.

71 posted on 11/14/2008 4:00:42 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; ...

If Whitman had defeated Jon Corzine instead of chickening out of the race, she might have some credibility. But she hasn’t won an election in many years.

She jumped the shark a decade ago.


72 posted on 11/14/2008 7:30:32 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: DManA
There is one issue that binds people who tend to be Republican - restrain of government power.

Not so! And this is the problem. Huckabee had planty of support from SoCons and that guy (Huckabee) was nothing about the restraint of government power. In my opinion, the SoCons need to check their issues at the states' level first and quit making a federal case out of everything: that would be the principled thing to do.

73 posted on 11/14/2008 7:31:40 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: M203M4

Great post! The first one (of the previous forty-one) that I found worth a shit.


74 posted on 11/14/2008 7:36:01 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Clemenza

Her singular accomplishment was to eviscerate the commanding GOP majority in New Jersey that she was handed on a silver platter. She’s nothing but another Democrat agent.


75 posted on 11/14/2008 7:49:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

She is a rodent’s rodent.


76 posted on 11/14/2008 10:45:59 PM PST by Luke21
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

bump


77 posted on 11/15/2008 2:30:13 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Christie Whitless has a long habit of betraying her friends, including Larry Kudlow. Just another trustafarian ditz (of which there are many in this part of the country, not all of them moving to the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn).


78 posted on 11/16/2008 6:28:20 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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