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Guns are 'flying off the shelf'
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 14 nov 08

Posted on 11/14/2008 10:58:06 AM PST by rellimpank

It's been a week and a half since Barack Obama was elected president. He won't take office for another two months. But he's already got one big group of Americans on their feet.

What is Barack Obama's position on the right to bear arms? Sen. Obama's campaign Web site says he "respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms." It promises he will "protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns."

Seeking to reassure gun owners, Mr. Obama told a campaign audience in Ohio in October: "I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."

But the crowds mobbing America's gun stores this week say a large number of Americans -- including first-time gun buyers -- don't believe him.

In 2003, while serving in the Illinois Legislature, Mr. Obama voted in favor of a bill in the Judiciary Committee that would have made it illegal to "knowingly manufacture, deliver or possess" so-called "semi-automatic assault weapons," reports Chris Cox, chief lobbyist for the National Rifle Association. "Under this bill, a firearm did not actually have to be semi-automatic to be banned. According to definitions in the bill, all single-shot and double-barreled shotguns 28-gauge or larger, and many semi-automatic shotguns of the same size, would be banned as 'assault weapons.'

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; banglist; bho2008; obama; obamatransitionfile
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To: OneWingedShark

Here in Virginia, I think so; but probably not so much in New York.


101 posted on 11/14/2008 12:36:41 PM PST by WayneS (Cynic? I prefer "Realist")
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To: Texas Fossil

“...At what exact point, then, should one resist the communists?...”
“How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: what
would things have been like if every Security operative, when he
went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether
he would return alive and had to say good bye to his family?
“Or if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply
sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang on the
downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had
understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the
downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes,
hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand...the Organs
(police) would very quickly have suffered a shortage of
officers...and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the
cursed machine would have ground to a halt.”
-Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago


102 posted on 11/14/2008 12:37:25 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Texas Fossil
I am convinced that the problem is a lot more real than you think.

Yes. It very well could be. The left believes the Constitutiion is a living breathing document that should change with the times. That means it's vulnerable to the latest fad. It's changeable on a whim.
A nation without laws becomes lawless. Lawlessness leads to chaos.

103 posted on 11/14/2008 12:38:50 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: pabianice
He wasn't given a satisfactory answer on why. Just “ fill this questionnaire out, get it notarized, send it back” and it shouldn't be a problem having it restored.
Questions like has he been in an accident requiring he be on meds, and is he disabled as a result.
Is he a mental case.
Why does he feel the need to carry a concealed weapon.
That one left enough room for an essay.
104 posted on 11/14/2008 12:41:06 PM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: wastoute
here ya go....

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105 posted on 11/14/2008 12:41:13 PM PST by Illuminatas (Being conservative means never having to say; "Don't you dare question my patriotism")
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To: Reagan is King
and a tactical shotgun

Take a look at the Mossberg 500 series.

L

106 posted on 11/14/2008 12:43:16 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

RE: “Join the NRA.”

*************

I did join recently — still have no gun but hey, gotta start somewhere! They sent me a cute baseball cap and some stickers!


107 posted on 11/14/2008 12:43:26 PM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: AirForceMom

>Why does he feel the need to carry a concealed weapon.

A: Evil abounds when good men do nothing.


108 posted on 11/14/2008 12:44:53 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 2111USMC
Not sure about the .357 mag. He did tell me it was fine for .38+P. I'll have to confirm that when I pick it up on Monday.

No FRiend. You may use .38 ammo in a .357, but not vice versa.....same with .44 special in a .44 mag, Makes it nice with a .357, you can let mom plink with .38 and then load the .357 rounds when you need the extra power.

109 posted on 11/14/2008 12:48:29 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Deo volente

RE: “You can relax, he won’t take our guns away.
He’ll just get the Congress to pass a $1000 tax on each box of ammunition. That’ll do the trick. No 2nd Amendment problems.”

*********

Here’s a really dumb question from one who may want to purchase a firearm — does the ammo have a “shelf-life?” If one wants the firearm just for home protection, and hopefully it would never need to be used, would purchasing a small amount of ammo be OK? I don’t like the sound of that huge tax increase on ammo!


110 posted on 11/14/2008 12:50:15 PM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: Puppage

Not only is it a lie, but we have been told by sellers, he intends to increase the tax on ammo by 500%!

It isn’t just guns flying off the shelf, it is ammo. If you are a hunter, it will cost you dearly for ammo under the One.


111 posted on 11/14/2008 12:52:12 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Travis McGee

Will this be America’s new flag?


112 posted on 11/14/2008 12:52:30 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Deo volente

Ammo tax is akin to a poll tax.

A gun is worthless, little more than a functional door-stop without ammo, and additionally people have the right to bear arms to protect themselves, and thus, also have the RIGHT to reasonably priced ammo.

IMO, unreasonable taxes on ammo are unconstitutional using this ratiocination.


113 posted on 11/14/2008 12:57:23 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Little known fact: Barack Obama translated into Kenyan means "Jimmy Carter")
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To: Illuminatas

LOL! Thanks that is the first laugh I have had since 4 Nov.


114 posted on 11/14/2008 12:58:07 PM PST by wastoute
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To: Red in Blue PA

That’s what I was thinking. I did a lookup, though, and there was a “Pittman Robertson” excise tax of 11% passed 25 yrs ago.

Of course, the key word would be “excessive”. Anything deemed “excessive” would be ruled a de facto national gun ban and would be ruled by a sane (assumption) USSC to be a violation of their 2nd amendment ruling earlier this year.


115 posted on 11/14/2008 12:59:37 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: CaliforniaCon
Here’s a really dumb question from one who may want to purchase a firearm — does the ammo have a “shelf-life?”

It does....but if stored properly, i.e. without large temp swings, 20-30 year old ammo works just fine. I am shooting 1970's military surplus ammo that works just fine. When ammo goes bad....the brass tends to discolor, or the primers fail. Bottom line.....Buy Lots Of Ammo Today....BLOAT!

116 posted on 11/14/2008 12:59:42 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: liberalism is suicide
Will this be America’s new flag?

Nah. Oboma is printing up new Hammer and Sickles as we type.
You should be getting one in the mail shortly.

117 posted on 11/14/2008 1:00:09 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: CaliforniaCon

“Here’s a really dumb question from one who may want to purchase a firearm — does the ammo have a “shelf-life?””

Not a dumb question. If kept in good shape, ammo can last for decades. I have shot surplus WW 2 ammo before.


118 posted on 11/14/2008 1:03:43 PM PST by Stat-boy
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To: pabianice

“Let me get this straight. In your state when an issuing judge retires, his rulings are void? That’s insane.”

Want to hear more insanity? In my town we now have garbage police.
Garbage to be in clear bags, inside cans.
Put it out before 6pm you get a fine.
Have them spot full cans in your yard ( not at the curb )missing a lid you can get a fine.
Have the strapping young garbage haulers decide your can is one pound over 40, they leave it.


119 posted on 11/14/2008 1:04:41 PM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: Doomonyou

He would also have to get through the SC.


120 posted on 11/14/2008 1:07:37 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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