Skip to comments.Guns are 'flying off the shelf'
Posted on 11/14/2008 10:58:06 AM PST by rellimpank
It's been a week and a half since Barack Obama was elected president. He won't take office for another two months. But he's already got one big group of Americans on their feet.
What is Barack Obama's position on the right to bear arms? Sen. Obama's campaign Web site says he "respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms." It promises he will "protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns."
Seeking to reassure gun owners, Mr. Obama told a campaign audience in Ohio in October: "I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."
But the crowds mobbing America's gun stores this week say a large number of Americans -- including first-time gun buyers -- don't believe him.
In 2003, while serving in the Illinois Legislature, Mr. Obama voted in favor of a bill in the Judiciary Committee that would have made it illegal to "knowingly manufacture, deliver or possess" so-called "semi-automatic assault weapons," reports Chris Cox, chief lobbyist for the National Rifle Association. "Under this bill, a firearm did not actually have to be semi-automatic to be banned. According to definitions in the bill, all single-shot and double-barreled shotguns 28-gauge or larger, and many semi-automatic shotguns of the same size, would be banned as 'assault weapons.'
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Here in Virginia, I think so; but probably not so much in New York.
...At what exact point, then, should one resist the communists?...
How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: what
would things have been like if every Security operative, when he
went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether
he would return alive and had to say good bye to his family?
Or if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply
sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang on the
downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had
understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the
downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes,
hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand...the Organs
(police) would very quickly have suffered a shortage of
officers...and, notwithstanding all of Stalins thirst, the
cursed machine would have ground to a halt.
-Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago
Yes. It very well could be. The left believes the Constitutiion is a living breathing document that should change with the times. That means it's vulnerable to the latest fad. It's changeable on a whim.
A nation without laws becomes lawless. Lawlessness leads to chaos.
Take a look at the Mossberg 500 series.
RE: “Join the NRA.”
I did join recently — still have no gun but hey, gotta start somewhere! They sent me a cute baseball cap and some stickers!
>Why does he feel the need to carry a concealed weapon.
A: Evil abounds when good men do nothing.
No FRiend. You may use .38 ammo in a .357, but not vice versa.....same with .44 special in a .44 mag, Makes it nice with a .357, you can let mom plink with .38 and then load the .357 rounds when you need the extra power.
RE: “You can relax, he won’t take our guns away.
He’ll just get the Congress to pass a $1000 tax on each box of ammunition. That’ll do the trick. No 2nd Amendment problems.”
Here’s a really dumb question from one who may want to purchase a firearm — does the ammo have a “shelf-life?” If one wants the firearm just for home protection, and hopefully it would never need to be used, would purchasing a small amount of ammo be OK? I don’t like the sound of that huge tax increase on ammo!
Not only is it a lie, but we have been told by sellers, he intends to increase the tax on ammo by 500%!
It isn’t just guns flying off the shelf, it is ammo. If you are a hunter, it will cost you dearly for ammo under the One.
Will this be America’s new flag?
Ammo tax is akin to a poll tax.
A gun is worthless, little more than a functional door-stop without ammo, and additionally people have the right to bear arms to protect themselves, and thus, also have the RIGHT to reasonably priced ammo.
IMO, unreasonable taxes on ammo are unconstitutional using this ratiocination.
LOL! Thanks that is the first laugh I have had since 4 Nov.
That’s what I was thinking. I did a lookup, though, and there was a “Pittman Robertson” excise tax of 11% passed 25 yrs ago.
Of course, the key word would be “excessive”. Anything deemed “excessive” would be ruled a de facto national gun ban and would be ruled by a sane (assumption) USSC to be a violation of their 2nd amendment ruling earlier this year.
It does....but if stored properly, i.e. without large temp swings, 20-30 year old ammo works just fine. I am shooting 1970's military surplus ammo that works just fine. When ammo goes bad....the brass tends to discolor, or the primers fail. Bottom line.....Buy Lots Of Ammo Today....BLOAT!
Nah. Oboma is printing up new Hammer and Sickles as we type.
You should be getting one in the mail shortly.
“Heres a really dumb question from one who may want to purchase a firearm does the ammo have a shelf-life?”
Not a dumb question. If kept in good shape, ammo can last for decades. I have shot surplus WW 2 ammo before.
“Let me get this straight. In your state when an issuing judge retires, his rulings are void? That’s insane.”
Want to hear more insanity? In my town we now have garbage police.
Garbage to be in clear bags, inside cans.
Put it out before 6pm you get a fine.
Have them spot full cans in your yard ( not at the curb )missing a lid you can get a fine.
Have the strapping young garbage haulers decide your can is one pound over 40, they leave it.
He would also have to get through the SC.
And a few man- stopper compound bows and a couple of pit bulls named fluffy.
“if kept in good shape”
I’ve been keeping a lot of ammo in my storage barn. Less concerned about security than temperature extemes. It looks OK, but do you think I should move it inside?
Nah. He wouldn't bother, he'll just tax them out of existence and regulate them to death.
Yes, “Truth” to the Left is that which advances their goals. Factuality is irrelevant.
“It looks OK, but do you think I should move it inside?”
I am no expert, but my initial thought is yes. No reason to let it deteriorate at a faster rate.
I think I’ll move it inside this weekend, thanks.
No kidding, a Pizza Hut pizza dough box. CTD must be shipping out so much ammo that they're having to scrounge any boxes they can get.
perhaps we need a “bow” thread for experts to recommend good hunting bows in various price ranges, just like we have the gun threads...
One of the ironies of our age is some of us have lost respect for those who lived before us. We have been conditioned to think that because of the technical progress the we have made that people who lived 75-250 years ago were uneducated and backward. However this is an illusion we have brought on ourselves.
Advanced technology does not automatically bring wisdom. Wisdom is acquired over time. These “Wunderkinder” have no respect for those “dead white guys” who wrote our constitution. They have nothing but contempt for it.
Giants they were, who formed our heritage.
I'm making an ammo run tommorow, can't have enough of that stuff!
If he gave it a minute of thought he'd ban BB guns.
Another example of the left encouraging people to disregard God's commands. The 5th commandment is not just about honoring your own immediate parents, but by extension, our ancestors, our traditions, and the values of our culture.
Ok, bow experts... help us out. I like them because they are not registered, and the gov’t cannot control the ammo. I have one, but it’s a yard sale special. I was told a long bow was better to hunt with because the twap of the string is less audible to prey. I am 108 pound female, so I need some info on getting more stopping power with less effort.
With a bow, you can GET a gun. I pray that it doesn’t come to that.
Look up “Liberator pistol”.
It wasn’t just members of the New Orleans Police Department who were involved in that gun grabbing outrage in the post-Katrina days....
The California Highway Patrol, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, and even menbers of the 82nd Airborne participated, among others.
The Left builds nothing, only destroys, blames others, and subjects others.
Republican Democracy = freedom of choice
Christianity = freedom of choice
Islam not= freedom
Totalitarianism not= Freedom
Totalitarianism = Communism/Marxism/Liberalism
Problem, how do we reverse voting to suspend Freedom in the Nov. 4th election?
Wise words from a wise man.
Domestic enemies ...
Having enough firearms and ammo for the moment, I just joined the NRA!
FReepmail me for my page-or-so guide to basic reloading and inexpensive equipment for beginners.
It’s gona be a carefuly selected politicaly correct army. The retards will be given guns to genocide the smart.
It’s Obama’s redistribution of wealth and plan favoring terrorists with blessings and appeasement hand outs. It’s going to get worse as the media will be propped up.
He’s going after your money, morality, jobs and guns, to hand them over to the evil losers who will not repent for voting him in office. Already RINOs use the word extremists to describe folkes with actual values, on their way to view 911 terrorists as their liberators.
How many do you reckon will want to die trying to take them away. I doubt very many would.
It certainly is. Would you accept that explanation if the ruling in question was a divorce decree, AFM? I would look into that before giving them any more paperwork that they probably don't have the authority to ask for. IMHO.
I will not take it away for awhile but I will make it hard as hell for you to purchase one (if you can afford the taxes) ditto for the ammunition you will need for it...........
That being said, i will not take your guns away......BHO