Skip to comments.Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.
The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
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Whoever called Obama Bozo is being really unfair. TO BOZO!
me thinks Bush is being suspiciously quiet about all of this.
President Bush is doing exactly what he needs to do. Look presidential and stable. I wish the DEMOCRAT Harry Paulson had a better grasp of the economy (actually, that is Bernanke’s job but he's a frightened kitten these days). Anyway... when the Obama not qualified story hits the press Bush needs to be a strong and stable leader or the civil unrest could get out of hand.
Remember, Bush's IQ is higher than Kerry and Gore's; Bush is an American Patriot; Bush has served in the military and Bush is a TEXAN!!! We'll be ok.
I dont think it would matter. The constitution does not specify one must be born in the US. It only states you must be a ‘natural born’ citizen and there is a lot of debate about what this means exactly. Some have gone as far as to say being born on an American military installation overseas is not good enough. Others say all one needs is to meet the requirements of being a citizen at birth. Obama would hold citizenship no matter where he was born because his mom was a citizen. The case of McCain is in the middle of the two because he was born outside of the Panama Canal zone it would make his eligibility questionable if using the tighter standard. I think that no matter what is decided the issue needs to be made crystal clear because modern travel will make this issue likely to come up in the future.
I guess it’s all we taxpayers deserve. We don’t deserve to have someone with a decent resume and no skeletons in the closet. We are just the cash cows of the Washington elite. Moo.
Hamilton’s genius and concern had been thwarted by the creation of the forerunner of the Democrat party in the early 1790s by Jefferson and Madison. A party created explicitly to stop him and his ideas. Slowly democratic influence has been expanded and the federal structure weakened as the electorate has expanded to include 35% who pay no income taxes. Federalism was also critically injured by the direct election of Senators.
Our Founders despised parties, factions they called them, and would have never believed that one so large and opposed to critical national interests as the Democrat would obtain power.
The electors have to cast their ballots first. If they find out that O is not eligible, most will cast their ballots fro some other Dim, for President. That could be Biden, but it could be someone else just as well.
After they cast their votes, and the tally sheets are sent to the President of the Senate (the current VP, the eviil Dick Cheney) is as early as the House and Senate could get involved. But they must pick from the top 3 electoral vote getters, who can qualify, which leaves McCain for President.
No, he was elected by the Electoral College (or he will be, after December 15), and has every right to his office.
You mean we had this thread for nothing? Where have you been all this time! LOL
The Secretary of State is in the line of succession. If Obama is sworn in and then removed by SCOTUS or if he resigns under huge public protest, she can broker a VP assignment. Biden serves one term and she is the front runner in 2012. This ain't over, folks. I suspect that the super scared look in Barry's eyes and the constant absence of his family from media attention suggests he knows the jig is up!
It wasn't the service, it was the perjury under oath. That is a high crime and an impeachable offense, regardless of what Arlen Spectacles might say about it.
When Obama is proven a fraud, I want to see a chain gang being marched to prison that leads with Hussein and Michelle Obama and includes Dean, Brazille, Emmanuel, Pelosi, Reid, Axelrod, Plouffe, Feinstein, Kennedy, Richardson, McCaskill, Frank, Dodd, Durbin, and many more traitorous bastards of the DNC.
And I want to see a complete collapse of the MSM.
Well, then that selfsame person had better fly his butt back to Hawaii and produce a copy of the certificate before all hell breaks loose.
Either he's constitutionally ineligible or he's not African. Come clean Barry! This issue isn't going away.
YES! Please, Barry, make us all look like tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist fools! Just show us the real birth certificate.
If Zero is found to unqualified then Biden is acting president until a person is qualified as President. Since the choice is made between those already receiving electoral votes McCain would be president. No one other than he and Zero received any electoral votes.
Biden would then be VP as elected since he is qualified and the EV for him are legitimate.
Thus, we would have a nightmare administration though much better than Zero as CinC.
Check the Hawaii Dept. of Health website. There are a select few who can request someones birth certificate. A very narrow list.
Sure seems High!...:0/
Cool. Thx for the clarification.
“Birth certificates if I recall can be requested if pay some fee. They are not sealed.”
BCs in Hawaii ARE private (probably to prevent identity theft) - certain other documents such as marriage certificates are not.
The ONLY way to receive a copy of a BC in Hawaii is to be the person in question, or to be a relative of the person in question (after that person has died).
A relative has to produce documentation that he is related and ALSO a certified Death Certificate of the person in question.
The State of Hawaii then verifies the information.
The “sealing” of Obama’s BC is probably a ruse - no need to seal something others can’t get ... but they probably mean that they locked it in a safe.
Here it is; #115.