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Los Angeles: Fire Forces Evacuations, Burns Homes in Sylmar Area
FOX News ^ | 15 November 2008

Posted on 11/15/2008 2:27:38 AM PST by bd476


Fire Forces Evacuations, Burns Homes in Sylmar Area

Sayre Fire is near the 210 Freeway in Northern Los Angeles.


A dangerous, fast-moving brush fire in the Sylmar section of the San Fernando Valley, spread by gusting 50 mph winds has now burned at least five homes and is threatening several more, City Fire Department spokesperson Melissa Kelly said today.

So far there are no reports of injuries to residents or fire personnel, said Kelly.

The blaze ignited about 10:30 p.m. in the dry, brushy hills above 13000 W. Sayre Street near Shablow Ave, and has so far consumed more than 500 acres.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 0prah; fire; lafd; losangeles; wildfires
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To: bd476
"A wildfire burning in the foothills north of Sylmar was reported at 10:30 p.m. Friday night."

Didn't the Santa Barbara fire start around 11:00 p.m.? These are beginning to sound to me like they are deliberately being set.

201 posted on 11/15/2008 2:40:17 PM PST by Spunky ((You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences))
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To: hole_n_one
Just went to get some lunch and viewed the smoke clouds from north east of the fire. There is some nasty burning going on. Worse then I have seen in quite a while. Also looks like some large industrial complexes in Anaheim Hills are being affected judging by the video from helicopters.
202 posted on 11/15/2008 2:40:19 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: dragnet2

yep.. all ready to go if we have to


203 posted on 11/15/2008 2:51:49 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: bd476

I pinpointed the location of the origin of the fire on satellite.

Anyone know the building right in that area..it’s a big building with a parking lot. Right on the Santa Clara Truck trail...


204 posted on 11/15/2008 2:51:52 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: La Enchiladita

Found a fairly typical final EIS comments & responses appendix for fuels management in southern California.

It makes for entertaining reading:

http://www.researchlearningcenter.org/samo/planning/FireEIS/FEIS%20AppenF%20pp1-50.pdf

Think about this for a sec: this isn’t some huge issue. This is just something as simple as removing brush and fuel build up. Look at how many agencies are able to wave their particular regulatory authority in front of this effort.


205 posted on 11/15/2008 3:04:42 PM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

You are so off base with your bloviating, it isn’t funny.

You consider a HOME to be part of the “fuel level” you speak of? Hundreds of HOMES have burned in these fires.


207 posted on 11/15/2008 3:13:10 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Don' need no steenkin' bipartisan..... Oops, have I failed to be "gracious" AGAIN?!!)
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To: lainie

There are very high voltage power lines that bring in power from the power plants on the Columbia River in Oregon down into SoCal. Sylmar is the southern terminus of the “Pacific DC Intertie” - a pioneering very high voltage (at first, 400kV, later 500kV) DC (not AC, but for-real DC - like a car battery) transmission line.

If those transmission lines come down, LADWP is going to be short over 3,000 MW of power capacity in the blink of an eye, which cannot be replaced in your power source portfolio. You don’t have enough power transmission capacity for other sources coming into the LA basin to replace the DC Intertie.

Do a web search for “Pacific DC Intertie” to see what we’re talking about here. You know that huge power “substation” you see with all the high tension lines going in/out of it on the east side of I-5/I-210 where they come together at the north end of I-210 in Sylmar?

That’s where the 500kV DC line terminates.

It is quite the piece of electrical engineering.


208 posted on 11/15/2008 3:13:58 PM PST by NVDave
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To: justa-hairyape
Some areas of Yorba Linda have no water pressure. Per FOX news interview. Do not know what happened. Areas up in hills. Almost no way to stop the flames. Just what the truck is carrying.
209 posted on 11/15/2008 3:17:44 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: bd476
...13 KCOP is by far top notch on this story....

I've been following this story via their live feed. Boy are their graphics annoying. Why must TV news stations cram the screen full of graphics?

The reporter will say: "If you look over here you can see..." but you can't see because the damn graphics are in the way. Grrrrrr.

210 posted on 11/15/2008 3:20:32 PM PST by FReepaholic (Diversity = .45 .357 .223 .38 ...)
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To: justa-hairyape

That is just amazing....bet the power went out at the pumping stations....Surprised they arent drawing from pools, but that looks like a Brush Patrol rig


211 posted on 11/15/2008 3:20:44 PM PST by BurbankKarl (a)
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To: BurbankKarl

Appear to be using a water tender to fill the trucks.


212 posted on 11/15/2008 3:24:45 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: BurbankKarl

Resident on Deodar Drive in Yorba Linda in on the air right now with KCAL 9 saying her street has been on fire for over an hour and no fire companies have responded. Flames moving down the street.

The fire is five houses away from her right now.


213 posted on 11/15/2008 3:26:39 PM PST by Deo volente (On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Now suspect that some senior citizens have died in the Sylmar Trailer park. Wont know until the area cools down enough for search dogs to enter.
214 posted on 11/15/2008 3:27:09 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: bornred
75% of registered CA voters stayed home on the 4th.

Produce at least 3 sources documenting your claim, please.

215 posted on 11/15/2008 3:30:52 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Don' need no steenkin' bipartisan..... Oops, have I failed to be "gracious" AGAIN?!!)
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To: lainie
Villar is “in awe” and telling us all to be thankful for our FF. I wish I could slap him.

I wish I could help you.

216 posted on 11/15/2008 3:33:36 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Don' need no steenkin' bipartisan..... Oops, have I failed to be "gracious" AGAIN?!!)
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To: justa-hairyape

3:22PM - The Anaheim Fire Department has advised that horses may be
sheltered at Rancho Del Rio Stables, 1314 Sandersen Ave, Anaheim (714) 535-3510.

3:17PM - Anaheim Fire officials continue to set up emergency shelters, and have now designated the center at the Anaheim Community Center, 250 E. Center St., as a “care and reception” center, but said no overnight housing is available there. Overnight shelter is being made available at Katella High School, 2200 E. Wagner Ave.; Anaheim High School, 811 W. Lincoln Ave.; and Loara High School, 1765 S. Euclid St. The Anaheim Fire Department estimates some 10.000 people have been evacuated from about 3,500 homes in the Anaheim Hills and Santa Ana River Canyon areas.

(FOX news)


217 posted on 11/15/2008 3:33:52 PM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY!)
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To: dragnet2

It has been raining heavy flakes of ash in Long Beach.


218 posted on 11/15/2008 3:37:30 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: justa-hairyape

It seems not long ago there was a big fire in the Yorba Linda area, so I wonder how much fuel there is to keep it going.....??


219 posted on 11/15/2008 3:39:04 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Don' need no steenkin' bipartisan..... Oops, have I failed to be "gracious" AGAIN?!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

It must be really bad breathing quality at your house, BG!


220 posted on 11/15/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Actually.......it’s NOT! And I am NOT complaining!!


221 posted on 11/15/2008 3:42:46 PM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY!)
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To: Yaelle

That is amazing there is no water pressure in Yorba Linda....like the anchor said...”Those folks pay an extraordinary amount of property taxes each year for fire service...”


222 posted on 11/15/2008 3:43:06 PM PST by BurbankKarl (a)
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To: BurbankKarl

KFI...(a bit ago)...the fire hoses melted to the streets???

Where?


223 posted on 11/15/2008 3:44:04 PM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Looks like the Yorba Linda fire in moving westward along the valley that the 91 freeway travels through. Also traveling along the hills north and south of the 91.
224 posted on 11/15/2008 3:44:23 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: bd476

Anyone have any idea of how much CO2 emissions are coming from these fires?


225 posted on 11/15/2008 3:45:36 PM PST by dbz77
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To: Spunky

SB fire was reported around 5:45 pm.


226 posted on 11/15/2008 3:45:54 PM PST by califamily4W (Save the baby humans!)
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To: BurbankKarl
If the economy continues to collapse, and city governments go bankrupt, those taxes wont end up getting them anything.
227 posted on 11/15/2008 3:46:02 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Deo volente
The fire is five houses away from her right now.

Why is she still there??!!! Leave, lady, leave!!!

228 posted on 11/15/2008 3:46:58 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Don' need no steenkin' bipartisan..... Oops, have I failed to be "gracious" AGAIN?!!)
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To: BurbankKarl
Another home in that Yorba Linda subdivision with no water pressure just caught fire.
229 posted on 11/15/2008 3:53:31 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: La Enchiladita

As to houses as fuel: If it has a shake roof, yes, it is fuel. Shake roofs are perfect tinder for wind-blown embers.


230 posted on 11/15/2008 3:54:57 PM PST by NVDave
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To: All
To all those in SCal, especially those either in the path of these fires or with family & friends in harm's way, may God Bless you, Protect you & Comfort you!

Prayers, understanding and good wishes are all that we can send you right now from here in NCal and from FR!

231 posted on 11/15/2008 3:55:01 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta

Global Fireball - Al Qaeda Planning New Environmental Terror Attack “Forest Jihad”
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/10/21/global-fireball-al-qaeda-planning-new-environmental-terror-attack/ ^ | Tuesday, 21 October 2008

Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 7:47:58 PM by Sammy67

Extremists are threatening an environmental disaster by sparking a series of catastrophic wild fires. We first posted on this last year.

Western intelligence agencies fear that Al Qaeda terrorists are planning a “global fireball” in a new departure in its war on the West.

Deliberately lighting forest blazes in Europe, the US and Australia would not only stretch emergency services but leave insurance companies facing multi-billion pound damage bills as the credit crunch bites.

The fires would also create a pollution disaster, with billions tons of climate change gases escaping into the atmosphere.

The so-called “forest jihad” is being championed by Islamic scholars and Osama Bin Laden’s terror strategists who believe setting fire to dry woodlands will produce maximum damage for minimum risk.

Western security services have picked up internet chatter which spells out in

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalterroralert.com ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2132400/posts


232 posted on 11/15/2008 3:55:34 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT
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LA County FD crews moving into Tonner Canyon for mop up from earlier fire near landfill by Chino/Brea per scanner


233 posted on 11/15/2008 3:57:13 PM PST by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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I-5 about to be reopened per LA County FD.


234 posted on 11/15/2008 4:00:28 PM PST by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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To: hole_n_one

OMG WOW, those pics are unbelievable.

Thanks for posting fir those of us out here in the rest of the country.


235 posted on 11/15/2008 4:00:33 PM PST by WestCoastGal (READ MY LIPSTICK!!! Sarah will be back.)
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To: hole_n_one

Yes, ditto the thanks for the pics. ^5


236 posted on 11/15/2008 4:01:41 PM PST by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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To: Brad's Gramma

The fire hoses melted inside that trailer park in Sylmar....after the firefighters dropped them and ran for their lives


237 posted on 11/15/2008 4:03:43 PM PST by BurbankKarl (a)
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To: BurbankKarl

Is it true they lost about 600 homes there today?


238 posted on 11/15/2008 4:06:08 PM PST by WestCoastGal (READ MY LIPSTICK!!! Sarah will be back.)
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To: BurbankKarl

FOX News has the Yorba Linda Water District guy on the phone....says the pump station burned down.

There should be a water tank on the top of the hill!


239 posted on 11/15/2008 4:06:58 PM PST by BurbankKarl (a)
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240 posted on 11/15/2008 4:08:33 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: WestCoastGal
That is the number just in Los Angeles County.

According to Ken Vecchiarelli the Director Yorba Linda Water District, the Hidden Hills area of Yorba Linda has lost its water. The water pump station burned and is no longer functional. Trying to bring a replacement pump up from Laguna Hills canyon. Absolutely unbelievable and uncontrollable.

241 posted on 11/15/2008 4:09:25 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: WestCoastGal

Fox is reporting 500 mobile homes gone in Sylmar. Scores of homes going up right now in Yorba Linda and Anaheim Hills


242 posted on 11/15/2008 4:09:33 PM PST by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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To: BurbankKarl
There should be a water tank on the top of the hill!

Don't recall seeing any big water tanks in the hills above Yorba Linda from the 91 freeway. Apparently they were using multiple three stage pumping stations.

243 posted on 11/15/2008 4:12:00 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: spectr17

New starts in Loma Linda, Perris


244 posted on 11/15/2008 4:13:25 PM PST by BurbankKarl (a)
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To: BurbankKarl

Thanks for the heads up. I’m on vacation so I’m home in Redlands. Was wondering when we were next. Got the videocam ready


245 posted on 11/15/2008 4:14:48 PM PST by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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To: justa-hairyape; spectr17

Thanks to you both for the info.

Just a horrible scene.

I pray the winds die down soon.


246 posted on 11/15/2008 4:15:03 PM PST by WestCoastGal (READ MY LIPSTICK!!! Sarah will be back.)
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To: WestCoastGal

Wind is surprisingly calm here in Redlands and Loma Linda are.

80°F
Current: Clear
Wind: SE at 1 mph
Humidity: 11%


247 posted on 11/15/2008 4:20:51 PM PST by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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Brush repsonse. LA County FD

14831 Little Tijunga


Overnight winds 25-35 mph per Fox. Red flag until 4pm Sunday


248 posted on 11/15/2008 4:25:03 PM PST by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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To: BurbankKarl

The Coroner command post has rolled up to the mobile home park....I bet they are setting up those giant tents like during the Metrolink crash.


249 posted on 11/15/2008 4:26:31 PM PST by BurbankKarl (a)
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We’re gonna lose most of the air attack in the next hour. Gonna get ugly.


250 posted on 11/15/2008 4:26:36 PM PST by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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