Posted on 11/15/2008 2:27:38 AM PST by bd476
Fire Forces Evacuations, Burns Homes in Sylmar Area
Sayre Fire is near the 210 Freeway in Northern Los Angeles.
A dangerous, fast-moving brush fire in the Sylmar section of the San Fernando Valley, spread by gusting 50 mph winds has now burned at least five homes and is threatening several more, City Fire Department spokesperson Melissa Kelly said today.
So far there are no reports of injuries to residents or fire personnel, said Kelly.
The blaze ignited about 10:30 p.m. in the dry, brushy hills above 13000 W. Sayre Street near Shablow Ave, and has so far consumed more than 500 acres.
(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxla.com ...
Edison Helo checking in with air attack at Sayre fire. Saying they want to head up Hwy 14 to check wood power poles for damage
Diamond Bar now a problem
Good online scanner feeds.
LAFD air attack
LA CO FD
Fox tankters
etc
http://castaic.publicsafetyfeeds.com/
I walked away from the TV, Turned on the Packer/Bears game
Regarding earlier reports of DC-10 tanker using San Bernardino Airport (old Norton AFB), Fox 9 saying they are using Victorville (Old George AFB).
Valencia is a major north-south street in Brea.
The Nixon Library is in the old part of Yorba Linda near Imperial Highway and YL Blvd. The wildfires are several miles east and north.
One tiny spot of good news is that the high desert this morning has a wind factor of ~nothing~. It’s so still outside it’s almost eerie.
I suspect that a lot of these fires will turn out to have been intentionally set. Do you agree?
Now we MUST bail out the insurance cos.
For the children.
Cindydawg sent the link to the arrested man’s thread in post 29 above.
I did a little research and find lots of terror there and prior incidents by them in Los Angeles, years ago.
I did not check the list for fire, should have, you will understand when you read the thread, why the links are interesting...LOL, to me.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2133037/posts?page=33#33
Of course some showed up:
“IT is Valencia Avenue in Brea, CA, it leads to Carbon Canyon Road and then you take Carbon Canyon to Chino Hills, this is the old Pre-57 FWY route over the hill, before that you had Carbon Canyon Road and Brea Canyon Road to Diamond Bar.”
And further to the west, Fullerton Road crosses the hills.
Grew up along the south side of this range of hills, and there were fires every few years in the 50s and 60s.
The east-west hills which include Diamond Bar, Sleepy Hollow, Chino Hills are called the “Puente Hills.”
This range joins the Santa Ana Mountains at approximately Anaheim Hills.
Lowe’s having a sale on belt sanders for the looters. Set on high speed and broadcast the screaming on the news.
KCAL showing a surge in the Diamond Bar fire, and new footage of fire in Placerita Canyon in the last 30 minutes
We’re in Simi Valley and were five minutes from evacuating in 2003. Now I’ve learned that when it’s hot and the winds are bad to be prepared to go, because you never know. When I wake up in the night (if I actually manage to get to sleep), I check the sky in every direction for any sign of danger. I’ve lived with blizzards in Buffalo, earthquakes in Alaska, hurricanes in Florida, and tsunami warnings in Hawaii. Fires scare me more than anything.
smart move.
Some fine seat of the pants flying going on up at Placerita Canyon on the news now (Sylmar Fire). CH 9. Some good pilots putting it on the X there. Same for Diamond Bar. Wild stuff.
If we get the usual afternoon wind shift Diamond Bar/Chino are off to the races again. Diamond Bar/Chino/Corona now a “Complex” fire. A “fire complex” is when 2 fires merge.
watching it over the internet. very amazing see the choppers and planes doing their drops. they keep calling it an aerial ballet. that fits! :)
“The Santa Anas (Desert Winds) are a dry wind. Caused by High pressure sitting over Nevada and California Deserts. Has not been excessively warm. Actually very nice if you are not near a fire. Was much hotter earlier in the year when we had some humid weather come up from the south. 80-90 with humidity is difficult. 80-90 with low humidity is nice.”
I believe if you study further, you will learn the origin of these winds is instead the “Great Basin” or “Colorado Plateau” over Arizona, Colorado, Utah and New Mexico (not the California/Nevada desert).
http://www.noaawatch.gov/2008/santa_ana.php
“watching it over the internet. very amazing see the choppers and planes doing their drops. they keep calling it an aerial ballet. that fits! :)”
We were in Costa Mesa a couple of hours ago, and saw a plane landing at John Wayne (OC airport).
Landing opposite from the normal direction, because of the wind diretion.
We had earlier thought the planes might be flying out of Ontario.
Probably using both.
some really touching stories they showed earlier. the lady that was the manager of the mobile home park, had lived there 29 (?) years and lost everything except an American flag that the firefighters gave back to her. a little scorched, but still pretty much intact, and she was thankful for that.
Am I nuts to think that some of these raging fires might be traced to the homosexual radicals?
i though so too... bumbed out the charges lost
the air tankers use Palmdale Fox Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Field
or
Riverside Ryan Air Tanker Base http://www.rvcfire.org/opencms/facilities/RyanAir/
Airtanker 910 (DC 10) uses the old George AFB....or SoCalLogisticalAirport
http://www.logisticsairport.com/page.aspx
Oh Karl...
That was hard to watch. I didn’t realize the FF were so close and breathing that stuff.
Very sweet post! Thank you so much!
Did the Prado Range in south Chino make it? There is also the Oranco Bowmen (archers) who have a range and clubhouse right next door along the est side of hwy 71 at 91 intersection. It’s where the 84 Olympics shooters were.
http://www.shootprado.com/index.asp
I spoke with a woman this morning who said that she had been evacuated from Carbon Canyon. She said they had 15 minutes to clear out. Just enough time to grab the kids, the pets, and some family photos.
The Nixon library is in old Yorba Linda, it isn’t near any hillsides covered with brush like the neighborhoods that burned. The building is largely brick and stone and glass so I don’t think there’s much to worry about from flying embers.
Oh my, oh my. Watched the whole thing. How close the FF and the photog got; I’d flip out to see a wall of fire like that over my head.
And those homes... I feel so bad for those families.
Thank G-d for our brave fire fighters. G-d protect them please.
From Kate on Shotgunworld.com
Did Prado make it?
Yes it did, my husband and I shot there today. The fire stayed on the west side of the 71 and all the smoke was driven by the wind westward. One thing about shooting in the wind those targets go where ever they want 5 stand was fun kate
IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT!!!!!!!
This Yorba Linda fire you linked on YouTube, came very close to my cousin’s home. The house across from them burned down; his was saved, and now they clean up smoke damage. It was a touch-and-go weekend for them.
Al Baby, we are in Palms/Culver City, at least 20 miles ??from the nearest fire, and everything covered in ash by yesterday afternoon.
I blevie it i was working in la on sat and it was smoky as hell
Hey go to Titos for me and have some tacos
Well....if you insist..... OKAY!!!
Just for kicks I created a GeoMac picture of the Sayre Fire Perimeter, with past burn area perimeters included to show you why the fire stopped where it did. The yellow is the SAYRE fire, while the gray are the SESNON and MAREK fires from 2008, with other past perimeters shaded different colors. Note: The large green area without a border to the right is the Angeles National Forest area....
Yep, it’s all about the fuel. There’s a guy down here who’s done similar maps on San Diego County’s fires for the last sixty years. They look a lot like yours. Yet every time there’s a major event, the unions and the politicians announce they have a new suppression oriented solution that will solve everything and the gullible public buys it.
We’ve had the unions claiming that San Diego County’s fire losses are caused by the presence of non-union volunteer fire departments in the back country. Funny thing is, the guys who lost control of those fires weren’t the volunteers. And here we had over 800 homes in three different counties go up in flames and every one of them was protected by “paid, professional, firefighters”.
I’ve been pointing that out, hoping they’ll finally have to admit that wildfires are massive acts of nature that will never be solved by suppression alone. I’m not holding my breath, though.
http://lafd.blogspot.com/2008/11/sayre-fire-hallowed-ground-for.html
Interesting story.....history repeats itself.
That’s funny, (no, not the story) I’d just gotten it from the LAFD e-mail list and was about to send it to you. Just as a matter of interest, the average fuel age in these major wildfire events is roughly forty years. So, 1966 was pretty much on the nose.
BK, that’s a great map.
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