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California Air Pollution Kills More People Than Car Crashes, Study Shows
Chron.com ^ | Nov. 13, 2008 | Tracie Cone

Posted on 11/15/2008 12:58:10 PM PST by Lorianne

Lowering air pollution in Southern California and the San Joaquin Valley would save more lives annually than ending all motor vehicle fatalities in the two regions, according to a new study.

The study, which examined the costs of air pollution in two areas with the worst levels in the country, also said meeting federal ozone and fine particulate standards could save $28 billion annually in health care costs, school absences, missed work and lost income potential from premature deaths.

The price tag amounts to $1,600 annually per person in the San Joaquin Valley and $1,250 in the South Coast Air Basin.

Researchers at California State University-Fullerton sought to assess the potential economic benefits that could be achieved by reducing air pollution to levels within federal standards.

"For decades there has been a tug of war over what to do about air pollution," said Jane Hall, lead author of the study at Cal State Fullerton. "We are paying now for not having done enough."

To illustrate its point, the study noted that the California Highway Patrol recorded 2,521 vehicular deaths in the San Joaquin Valley and South Coast Air Basin in 2006, compared to 3,812 deaths attributed to respiratory illness caused by particulate pollution.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: airquality; environment; socal
Hey! That's pretty good for the most 'progressive' state in the union.

Good going California!

1 posted on 11/15/2008 12:58:10 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Show me the bodies. Show me that all the dead guys didn't smoke, didn't drink, didn't cuss.

Kaleephornya is a disease in and of itself.

2 posted on 11/15/2008 1:00:30 PM PST by stboz
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To: Lorianne

Get rid of California’s anti-business climate, grow the economy, people can afford newer and cleaner cars, bingo!

But no, mister “I left Europe to get away from socialism” wants to raise the damn sales tax.


3 posted on 11/15/2008 1:01:32 PM PST by Tony in Hawaii (NUTS!)
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To: Lorianne

Actually a ton of pollution that is measured in California comes from China. From what people have told me sometimes you can actually see it coming in.


4 posted on 11/15/2008 1:02:00 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Lorianne

BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS

Which means BU(( $HIT times 10


5 posted on 11/15/2008 1:02:23 PM PST by PRO 1 (POX on posters who's political bent causes them to refuse to be confused by the FACTS!!!!!!)
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To: Lorianne

Stop driving or Stop breathing. Some choice.


6 posted on 11/15/2008 1:04:40 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: Lorianne

You know, I heard this on the radio last week. I think it is some study that just came out, totally bogus. The air pollution is so negligible these days, really not bad at all, at least here in Los Angeles. Sheesh, remember the 1970s here? We have catalytic converters on our cars, etc. You can barely even see the air anymore, and I never see that awful inversion layer just hanging over town.

I think this is bogus, and I think it is just designed to take control of SOME bit of something by the libs.

Just a hunch. The next ‘scare’?? now that GW has been proven ridiculous? I’m not buying it.

Show me the dead bodies, too. And I’d like to see what other variables were involved — alcohol, drugs, lowlife living. What?


7 posted on 11/15/2008 1:06:21 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: NormsRevenge

If all the libs who believe this crap would commit suicide, it would lower pollution a bunch. They need to save the planet. If they don’t commit suicide (or stop havin babies) they are hypocrites.


8 posted on 11/15/2008 1:06:56 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: PRO 1

Maybe so, but if it is, it’s their own BS.
Same cheer! Good going California !!!


9 posted on 11/15/2008 1:06:59 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

If the Latino and Black gangs don’t get you first...


10 posted on 11/15/2008 1:07:43 PM PST by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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To: stboz
Show me the bodies. Show me that all the dead guys didn't smoke, didn't drink, didn't cuss.

Conversly, show me that all the dead from "secondhand smoke" didn't breathe any California air.

11 posted on 11/15/2008 1:10:03 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: PRO 1
Why didn't you go all out and say BS110?
12 posted on 11/15/2008 1:10:22 PM PST by calex59
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To: Dallas59
If the Latino and Black gangs don’t get you first...

Not to mention the queers pissed off about Prop 8!

13 posted on 11/15/2008 1:12:38 PM PST by calex59
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To: Tony in Hawaii

The Jerkinator packed a lot of Eurosocialism in his suitcase when he left Austria in the late 1960s. The way he has governed (”misgoverned”, rather) CA has proven it. I hear he wants to run for the U.S. Senate, I’ll vote for the Independence Party candidate before I’ll support this hump, who is an idiot in two languages.


14 posted on 11/15/2008 1:18:03 PM PST by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, he believes government is the solution, rather than the problem)
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To: calex59

Forgot about them...getting your face slapped hurts!


15 posted on 11/15/2008 1:32:14 PM PST by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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To: Lorianne

What a crock. There is no way this could be a valid “study” or conclusion.

Scientists should be embarrassed... for this and many many other “studies.”


16 posted on 11/15/2008 1:39:26 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: bboop

“I think this is bogus, and I think it is just designed to take control of SOME bit of something by the libs.”

You are right, but it is nothing new. The California Air Resources Board has been implementing regulations through a process called “rulemaking” for many years. This effectively creates new law, bypassing the normal legislative process. Every thing is done out front, with public notices of hearings and workshops for the people to attend and provide input, then they move forward and create the regulations they wanted in the first place. CARB regulations are the reason for fuel being more expensive in California than most other places. Several years ago they were successful in implementing the requirement for the “spill-proof” gas cans required in California now, and they are moving forward in regulating wood stove usage in various parts of the state. It begins locally with voluntary “Don’t Light Tonight” programs to curb usage during low air quality times, but advances to bans on usage of wood burners, such as Fresno County now has. I always thought I would get in trouble with the government over my firearms ownership, never thought it would be because of my woodstove. They can have mine when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. Come to think of it, it’s time to throw another log on.


17 posted on 11/15/2008 1:47:59 PM PST by NorCalGuy (Everybody complains about the weather but nobody does anything about it)
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To: ValerieTexas

Of course, none of these suddenly healthy people would have any place to work, as all of the businessmen would be driven into bankruptcy or out of the State! Way to go AHHNOLD. Go to it, boy!


18 posted on 11/15/2008 1:50:05 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Lorianne
"...Lowering air pollution in Southern California and the San Joaquin Valley would save more lives annually than ending all motor vehicle fatalities in the two regions, according to a new study..."

1) Air pollution from vehicles is worst at an idle than at a steady RPM.

2) Traffic fatalities are reduced when traffic is at an idle.

Therefore, improving traffic flow would increase traffic speeds and lower pollution; however, increased speeds would increase fatalities until fatalities from both causes reach some natural point.

(Something like that, anyway.)

:-\

19 posted on 11/15/2008 1:51:44 PM PST by Does so (Schumer, with IndyMac, precipitated bank failures BEFORE the 2008 election.)
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To: Lorianne
I am so glad the driving and the newer auto safety standards & laws have improved highway safety to that extent since 1971-1983, when I lived there. /sarc>

I have to admit though that I can't believe that the air pollution isn't much better now than back then, based on my visits there during the late 1990's and early 2000's.

As to 'not meeting air quality standards', WHICH standards are they talking about, since they have tightened them several times, like each time the area even got close to meeting whatever standard was then current?

20 posted on 11/15/2008 2:11:49 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: Does so

Unless you get rid of all auotmobiles, then you reduce both pollution AND traffic fatalities (except of course, bicycle crashes and horse/carriage crashes).


21 posted on 11/15/2008 2:21:26 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: NorCalGuy

haha, pry your woodstove from your cold, dead hands? Indeed. And my farting cow, too, should I want one. hahah.


22 posted on 11/15/2008 2:40:53 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Lorianne
Yes...all the more reason to stop building cars....menace to our health, destructive to small animals, walking is the answer, and maybe horse drawn carriages,,,,but on second thought, that is cruelty to animals.....but for sure the Great One, will have answer...
23 posted on 11/15/2008 2:55:13 PM PST by thinking
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To: Secret Agent Man
Re: "Fine particulate matter": Southen California is largely desert. Deserts are intrinsically dusty places. No way to change that. Live with it.
24 posted on 11/15/2008 2:55:41 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lorianne
No no this cannot be! CA has the strictest, most invasive and limiting emissions and global climate change policies in the nation. Carbon is banned there. This story must be false!! /sarc
25 posted on 11/15/2008 3:38:49 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Lorianne

Public enemy number one is the personal automobile.

Until our right to own one is destroyed, look for crap articles like this.


26 posted on 11/15/2008 3:57:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Okay lefties... the problem with wanting something, is that you sometimes get it. Good luck now!)
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To: Lorianne

Wow, so if they all stop driving then there won’t be any car accidents and there won’t be so much pollution and they can live forever, cool.


27 posted on 11/15/2008 4:06:25 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Lorianne

Vallies and basins collect smog naturally, and then you build cities in them. You should have made some better choices locating your cities. The rest of the country won’t be punished for your poor decision making. If you don’t like the air quality, don’t live there.


28 posted on 11/15/2008 4:16:16 PM PST by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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To: Lorianne

I guess the point of this liberal crying is to get rid of diesel trucks. Well, California is the biggest failure as a state because of it’s liberal leanings. It’s millions in debt and this business-killing idea would make things worse. Failures.


29 posted on 11/15/2008 4:16:47 PM PST by Force of Truth (The "common good" will make us all common.)
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To: Lorianne; All
her is Jane Hall's info

Hall, Jane SGMH-3390 Economics

30 posted on 11/15/2008 4:23:42 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: tiki

Yep, just like a Hollywood Happy Ending.


31 posted on 11/15/2008 4:56:24 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: hinckley buzzard

I’m not disagreeing with you about that. Read my post again. People there can tell when China’s pollution hits the coast.


32 posted on 11/15/2008 6:24:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bboop

That will be next. First our woodstoves, then our cows. They will already have us all out of our cars and using mass transit. The nearest bus stop to my place is 14 miles away, one mile from my workplace. Some times I look at whats happening and wonder what became of the state I was born in. The California of today certainly isn’t it.


33 posted on 11/16/2008 8:33:52 PM PST by NorCalGuy (Everybody complains about the weather but nobody does anything about it)
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