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First Court Hearing on Obama's Birth Certificate on Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008
Right Side News ^ | November 16, 2008 | Andy Martin

Posted on 11/16/2008 11:57:09 PM PST by Red Steel

Andy Martin is in Honolulu this weekend preparing for the first court hearing on the Obama birth certificate controversy. His press release is as follows:

This will be the first court hearing anywhere on access to the original, 1961 certificate. The only state that has jurisdiction over such a lawsuit is Hawai'i, because Hawai'i officials are the custodians of the 1961 typewritten paperwork.

Before we get to the back story, let me start with a disclaimer. I have no idea what the judge will do on Tuesday. I make no predictions, except one: I will prepare to the best of my ability and present as professional a case as the judge permits. Monday morning I will be on the street serving papers and filing with the Clerk in preparation for Tuesday.

And, looking ahead, whatever happens on Tuesday, on Wednesday we hope to launch my "Conversation With America" about our future course of action in an Obama administration. I invite all of you to join in and support this mission.

Just as the FBI always attends every Gambino Family funeral to see who is there, ContrarianCommentary.com was in Honolulu Friday to observe the "independent" (not family-sponsored) "memorial service" held in memory of Barack Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. We will have a full column later Sunday, or possibly Monday.

It occurred to me that you might appreciate some insight into the effort that goes into preparing and presenting a major piece of litigation 8,000 miles away from home.

Anyone who has read our Memorandum of Law (see the ContrarianCommentary.com blogs below for a full copy) will not be surprised that it took us the better part of a week to analyze, research, write and finalize a 25-page document (which we will be filing with the Clerk on Monday morning) setting forth why Obama's birth certificate must be made public.

If a large law firm was handling the case of Martin vs. Obama, they would probably send a minimum team of four lawyers as well as support personnel. They would have a trial counsel, a couple of associates, and a senior partner to guide the overall process. There would be at least one paralegal, possibly more. That's why high stakes litigation is so costly.

Martin vs. Obama is a high stakes lawsuit: it seeks to open a vital record of American history to public review and analysis.

And I will be working alone.

Ask any lawyer: it's not easy landing in a strange town, setting up an office and firing off legal documents in a controversial constitutional case. But we managed to file the lawsuit two days after arriving in Honolulu in October, and now we are back for the first court hearing anywhere to address the issue of Barack Obama's origins.

Landing in an unfamiliar city, any lawyer would need a support network. We managed to recreate our October "fighting camp" in 24 hours and are up and running. I dragged a printer on the 12 hour flight because we have to be able to react immediately to any development. Saturday morning we were out assembling office supplies to be ready to move quickly on Monday morning.

I even purchased a box of envelopes so that if we have a breather, we can start mailing out thank you notes to everyone who contributed to the financial support of this very costly and complex venture. There is no wasted time on a trip of this nature, and no wasted money.

I will take time off Sunday morning to attend services at Saint Andrews (Episcopal) cathedral in downtown Honolulu. And I forgot to pack my sunglasses, so I need to go shopping for a pair.

Unlike other lawsuits involving Obama, mine is narrowly and specifically focused on access to the original, typewritten 1961 certificate which Hawai'i officials have confirmed they possess. There is no way anyone can express an opinion on the circumstances of Obama's birth without seeing the vital gateway document. I have refrained from speculating on the contents of the original because my focus is on expressing an informed opinion (a term CNN once made fund of).

Mr. Obama and his Chicago crew have been very crafty in creating a cloud of confusion over the "abstract" that he furnished to FactCheck.org as a purported original birth certificate, when obviously it was nothing of the sort. Many millions of people were confused even though the term "abstract" was clearly visible on the FactCheck.org site (and even though FactCheck.org seems to have missed that significance, as well).

We will also be continuing and conducting the research and investigation we began in October to document Obama's origins in Hawai'i with interviews and contacts with people who knew his family and the other "players" in the Honolulu dramas of the 1970's and 80's.

As these comments are being prepared Sunday morning I can only conclude with a sense of deep humility at the enormity of the task and the nature of the burden. I continue to bear Barack Obama no ill will. Nevertheless, I passionately and sincerely believe that he owes the American people a detailed exposition of both his personal and his family history, and that he has not been candid with the American people. Without candor, he will not be able to establish the legitimacy that is essential for national leadership. He remains a stranger to the American people.

Barack Obama and his character assassins such as Robert Gibbs have done everything they can to demonize and defeat and intimidate me. They have failed utterly and abjectly. Tuesday morning I will stand up in court, stand tall, and stand proud for every American who believes Barack Obama needs to start telling the truth about himself. The election may be over. But the search for the truth about Mr. Obama is continuing.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; frivolouslawsuits; goodlawsuits; obama; obamatransitionfile

1 posted on 11/16/2008 11:57:09 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

GIT-R-DONE!!


2 posted on 11/17/2008 12:01:51 AM PST by OL Hickory (hear that sound..its a hammer hitting the nail on its head!!)
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To: Red Steel

Completely off topic: why does he stick an apostrophe in Hawaii?
EEWWWWW


3 posted on 11/17/2008 12:02:03 AM PST by PosterQue (Pumped about Palin!)
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To: PosterQue

Because that is the correct Hawaiian spelling - and my screen name should be Kaua’ibound.


4 posted on 11/17/2008 12:15:06 AM PST by KAUAIBOUND (Hawaii - paradise infested with left-wing cockroaches and centipedes)
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To: PosterQue

Have you looked up this guy Andy Martin he is a who’s who in litigation. He is a quack!


5 posted on 11/17/2008 12:17:42 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: PosterQue

That’s the way it’s spelled.

See for yourself:

http://www.courts.state.hi.us/


6 posted on 11/17/2008 12:18:06 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: tallyhoe

One man’s quack is another man’s Freedom Fighter!


7 posted on 11/17/2008 12:19:33 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Red Steel

I have a suspicion that the reason Obama’s birth records were sealed was not because he isn’t a citizen ... but because his parents were not actually married, which while immaterial to his standing in running for president, would certainly be embarrassing.

Just a theory.


8 posted on 11/17/2008 12:20:08 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Marxist Obama will trash the USA for the next 30 years. Vote McCain-Palin!)
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To: John Valentine

You better read up on this Guy. I hope it works but I looked him up on the internet. He has been in a little trouble! Couldn’t get his law license in Illinois! Ran for office on Republican and Democratic sides never was elected to anything. Ran about 12 times for Senate in Various States.


9 posted on 11/17/2008 12:23:10 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Or his name wasn’t Obama.

That could lead to some serious problems as well.


10 posted on 11/17/2008 12:26:31 AM PST by DB
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To: Red Steel

I’ll try to act surprised when nothing comes of this.


11 posted on 11/17/2008 12:36:34 AM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
His parents were not actually married! I thought that was known all along.
12 posted on 11/17/2008 1:01:40 AM PST by BellStar ( Frank Marshall Davis, Communist Party member, Obama's friend.)
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To: OL Hickory

What will this prove?


13 posted on 11/17/2008 1:09:04 AM PST by BellStar ( Is Barack Obama A Marxist Mole?)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Or biological father was Malcolm X!

Or if he was born in Mombasa big embarassment to the whole Democratic party and the main stream media will have lots of explaining.


14 posted on 11/17/2008 1:22:53 AM PST by wannabegeek
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To: Red Steel

Mat God be with you and protect you.

It’s absolutely astonishing that no government agency or court has, or is willing to, scrutinize Obama’s qualifications to run as a candidate for POTUS, and now that the election is over, hold the position of POTUS.


15 posted on 11/17/2008 1:23:35 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Actually in some circles today,Being illegitimate is a badge of ‘honor’


16 posted on 11/17/2008 2:02:50 AM PST by screaming eagle2
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

I’ve always thought that’s what it was too. In some states birth certificates used to have a little box to check “yes” or “no” next to “LEGITIMATE?” We Freepers know Obama is illegitimate (his parents were not validly married), but it seems most people who voted for him didn’t take time to find out a darn thing about his past, and that could look shocking all over TV screens shortly before Nov 4.

However, now that the election’s over, this would not change the outcome, so why the continued secrecy? There’s nothing to lose, unless there really is something more incriminating?


17 posted on 11/17/2008 2:07:34 AM PST by baa39 (www.FightFOCA.com - innocent lives depend on you)
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To: baa39

If Obama is ineligible, does that mean that Biden becomes the next President and Pelosi his VP?


18 posted on 11/17/2008 2:18:41 AM PST by marsh2
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To: baa39

A minor embarassment at best in this day and age. Being a bass turd these days carries very little, if any, humiliation.


19 posted on 11/17/2008 2:27:45 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: PosterQue
"...why does he stick an apostrophe in Hawaii...?"

The apostrophe is to show a "hiccup" in the native pronunciation of Hawaiian words. The word isn't pronounced Hah-why-yeeee—the last syllable is more explosive, pronounced like Hah-wha-IH!. Those corrective changes were made sometime in the 80s.

Off Lanikai Beach is "Rabbit Island". It now has a different, native, name. (I grew up in the Territory of Hawaii). :)

I suspect that al Qaida is spelled al Qaeda by the Brits to compensate for one of those "hiccup-apostrophes" that should appear—as al Qa'da.

20 posted on 11/17/2008 3:00:01 AM PST by Does so (Schumer, with IndyMac, precipitated bank failures BEFORE the 2008 election.)
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To: baa39

I agree. There must be something more incriminating.
These claims could have/should have been easily rectified.
The American people Demand the truth.

However, i doubt we’ll get it.
Anything they need will be produced at this point.


21 posted on 11/17/2008 3:04:53 AM PST by ZAKJAN2
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
Parents weren't married? Amazing that his mother didn't have an abortion...

Oh, abortion wasn't the law of the land back then?

Pity....

22 posted on 11/17/2008 3:09:35 AM PST by freebilly
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

He’s already admitted in his book and publicly that his parents weren’t married, so I doubt that is it. I’m wondering if there’s something more like his father isn’t who he says he is? Who knows...


23 posted on 11/17/2008 3:30:57 AM PST by leapfrog0202
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To: KAUAIBOUND
That is simply horse sh’it. My understanding of the Hawaiian language is that every vowel gets pronounced, simple and straight forward. When a language is only spoken, there is no punctuation. Simple.
24 posted on 11/17/2008 3:38:43 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Red Steel

I expect a very large and state like funeral for Madelyn Dunham by the Obamaites sometime after The Great ObamaNation starts to rule over us.


25 posted on 11/17/2008 3:45:51 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Red Steel

This guy from the beginning has always sounded like a real loon.


26 posted on 11/17/2008 3:50:32 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: marsh2

‘If Obama is ineligible, does that mean that Biden becomes the next President and Pelosi his VP?’

If he is found to be ineligible before his inauguration, the House would chose the President (probably Hillary) and the Senate would chose the Vice President (most likely Biden).


27 posted on 11/17/2008 3:55:24 AM PST by svxdave (Life is too short to wear a fake Rolex.)
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To: tallyhoe
he is a who’s who in litigation. He is a quack!

For a moment there I thought I was reading a contribution letter from Judicial Watch!

28 posted on 11/17/2008 4:03:10 AM PST by JDoutrider (Heading to Galt's Gulch... It is time.)
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To: Robert DeLong
>>>A minor embarassment at best in this day and age. Being a bass turd these days carries very little, if any, humiliation.


29 posted on 11/17/2008 4:07:06 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: marsh2

Biden may become president, but Connie Corleone stays Speaker of the House.

If Plugs becomes president he picks his own veep, just as Nixon chose Ford, and Ford chose Nelson Rockefeller.


30 posted on 11/17/2008 4:18:46 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Red Steel

“Before we get to the back story, let me start with a disclaimer. I have no idea what the judge will do on Tuesday.”

Let me guess: Throw it out of court.


31 posted on 11/17/2008 4:23:37 AM PST by CriticalJ
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To: Red Steel

I think maybe the birth certificate lists his last name as Soetoro. If he was adopted, he would be issued a new certificate with that last name. The factcheck.org was created to list his last name as Obama because if it listed Soetoro that would automatically deem him ineligible.


32 posted on 11/17/2008 4:24:00 AM PST by Phoenix11
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To: svxdave

Gee, I am not sure what would happen.


33 posted on 11/17/2008 4:49:21 AM PST by waxer1 ( Live Free or Die)
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To: Phoenix11

A maybe that’s why he didn’t feel the need to register with Selective Service.


34 posted on 11/17/2008 4:50:36 AM PST by Mad-Margaret
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To: BellStar
“What will this prove?”

That Barry's mother was a jackal. LOL!

Hopefully it will provide incite into Barry's REAL past.

35 posted on 11/17/2008 5:18:52 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Red Steel

What if Barack Sr. is not the father... I would think that in Kenya he would have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do.


36 posted on 11/17/2008 7:41:49 AM PST by Suz in AZ
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To: Phoenix11
I think maybe the birth certificate lists his last name as Soetoro. If he was adopted, he would be issued a new certificate with that last name. The factcheck.org was created to list his last name as Obama because if it listed Soetoro that would automatically deem him ineligible. I think a more logical outcome would be that the last name would be Dunham. That could also cause a similar problem in the name arena.
37 posted on 11/17/2008 7:44:01 AM PST by Suz in AZ
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To: Red Steel; BellStar; ZAKJAN2; Nathan Zachary; leapfrog0202

The “election” is not over! As a matter of fact, O hasn’t been elected president yet and it is not too late to interrupt this fraud! It isn’t close to being over until the elector’s votes are accepted in the Joint Session of Congress on Jan 6, 2009. At the worst, we have the ball, we are down 6 points and it’s the middle of the 3d quarter.

American voters must demand that their Senators and Representatives commence now to prepare for action on or before January 6, or it may be over.

See the draft in my About page of the letter I sent to my politicians. I am not an English major and you can likely do better with your draft.

We need to raise hell over O’s apparent disqualification instead of going passive! If you agree, talk about it with everyone you know and help get it on the national scene!


38 posted on 11/17/2008 8:19:06 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: PosterQue

“..why does he stick an apostrophe in Hawaii?”

Because using the glottal stop here is the correct spelling.


39 posted on 11/17/2008 8:32:23 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (We have elected a man ... who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen (Dollard post))
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To: BellStar
"What will this prove?"

Well, it could prove that his "mentor" and family friend, Frank Marshall Davis, was his dad.
40 posted on 11/17/2008 10:14:06 AM PST by txnuke (Oppose the Paulson Splurge! ...... ooops old tag line. Too late.)
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To: tallyhoe
He is a quack!

Not important. If he can get something started, more luck to him.

Remember, Clinton wasn't impeached because of a BJ.

41 posted on 11/17/2008 10:57:03 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

According to Obama’s wife, Anna Dunham was single.

Michelle Obama contradicted the embedded story-line of her husband’s biography in November, 2007.

His own mother, she said at the beginning of her speech, was “very young and very single when she had him.”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/10/1193601.aspx


42 posted on 11/17/2008 11:04:04 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Beckwith

I did not say he wouldn’t get anything done I’m just skeptical!


43 posted on 11/17/2008 1:19:36 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Beckwith

Wait a minute! Liberals are insistent that that is what he was impeached for! They wouldn’t lie, now would they?


44 posted on 11/17/2008 1:21:41 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: frog in a pot

A better illustration is that the game was a blowout and the winner may have paid off the refs.


45 posted on 11/17/2008 4:44:11 PM PST by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: TypeZoNegative

“A better illustration is that the game was a blowout and the winner may have paid off the refs.”

You certainly have a point regarding the refs. The Republicans slept like passed out drunks through the period within which they could have challenged O’s 57 state primary nominations.

However,, my view is the game is far from over, O hasn’t been elected yet. And, it could very well have a blowout conclusion - although we would likely end up with Hillary.

We need to see 46% of the Amnericans who voted put the fear of the pitchfork into their Republican politicians.


46 posted on 11/17/2008 5:11:20 PM PST by frog in a pot (See my About page for draft of letter to Republicans urging objection to O's election on Jan 6.)
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To: jws3sticks

You’re right, it’s a new kind of PC BS, like a few years back the City of San Jose in California suddenly started putting an accent mark over the “e”.


47 posted on 11/17/2008 8:57:07 PM PST by baa39 (www.FightFOCA.com - innocent lives depend on you)
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To: jws3sticks

Sorry, but my Hawaiian/English dictionary says otherwise, and spells Hawai’i with the ‘u’ina, which is an inverted comma, which indicates a glottal closure. Many other Hawaiian words have one or more ‘u’ina also.

The TV announcers here take special care to pronounce Hawaiian words exactly, and the effect of the ‘u’ina is very noticeable.


48 posted on 11/19/2008 9:58:58 AM PST by KAUAIBOUND (Hawaii - paradise infested with left-wing cockroaches and centipedes)
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To: Red Steel

Did any rulings come out from this hearing yesterday?

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


49 posted on 11/19/2008 1:03:15 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: KAUAIBOUND
Thanks for the clarification. My exposure to the language was four years in college with "Da Kin McKinley Boys" and a wonderful week in Maui a few years ago.

An amazing road south of Wailea.

Here's this wonderful old cane sugar factory, still in production after at least 100 years.

A neat blow hole and "echos" of prior sprays.

I call this "Fire in the sky 01".

I call this "Fire in the sky 02".


50 posted on 11/20/2008 2:14:39 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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