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Soviet officer who 'shot down McCain over Vietnam' speaks out
RIA Novosti ^ | 17/ 11/ 2008 | unknown

Posted on 11/17/2008 8:22:06 AM PST by winoneforthegipper

"We were preparing to leave when the sirens sounded again," he said. "Two American F-4 Phantoms flew in. We had two missiles out of six left. The Vietnamese fired first. Their rocket missed, it fell into the jungle. One plane went round the hill, the other came over the bridge. We fired at this one."


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar; mccain; trushyochkin; vietnamvets; vietnamwar
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The account seems legit...interesting recount of events!
1 posted on 11/17/2008 8:22:06 AM PST by winoneforthegipper
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To: winoneforthegipper

Another Commie that’s glad McCain lost.


2 posted on 11/17/2008 8:23:34 AM PST by ducdriver (Quantum potes tantum aude.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

McCain was an A-4 pilot. I think this is BS.


3 posted on 11/17/2008 8:24:08 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: winoneforthegipper

Except McCain was flying an A-4 Skyhawk, no?


4 posted on 11/17/2008 8:24:27 AM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: ducdriver

“Two American F-4 Phantoms”
I thought he was driving an A-4 Skyhawk.


5 posted on 11/17/2008 8:25:16 AM PST by tumblindice (I hope someday to be the man my dog thought I was.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Nice story but McCain was flying an A-4 Skyhawk not an F-4 Phantom.


6 posted on 11/17/2008 8:26:22 AM PST by newbolt
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To: neodad

You’re right he was flying an A-4 Skyhawk. Russians tend to be FOS.


7 posted on 11/17/2008 8:26:34 AM PST by WildcatClan (The Marxist will reycle the Clintonistas and call it "change".)
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To: winoneforthegipper

“My wife was there and saw the whole thing, da—mebbe you know her: Morgana Fairchildsky?” Yury Trushyekin


8 posted on 11/17/2008 8:28:08 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: tumblindice

Correct his weapon was an A-4 not sure I would assume a translation error if the story is true.


9 posted on 11/17/2008 8:28:24 AM PST by winoneforthegipper
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To: neodad

That is correct. McCain flew a Douglas A4 Skyhawk. I have doubts that an air defense officer would confuse an F4 and an A4.


10 posted on 11/17/2008 8:29:21 AM PST by SCPatriot77
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To: tumblindice

LOL


11 posted on 11/17/2008 8:29:23 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: winoneforthegipper
There has never been any official acknowledgment that Soviet soldiers served in Vietnam on the side of the communist North Vietnamese in the 1960s and 1970s. However, Trushyekin, currently in a hospital in Russia's second city of St. Petersburg, had no qualms about speaking about his time in the jungles of Southeast Asia.

"I got to Vietnam at the time when there were mixed units with Vietnamese," he said, adding that he had served as an officer in a missile unit.

My father said that we regularly overheard Russian technicians in Vietnam manning their missile sites.

Lying Commies.

12 posted on 11/17/2008 8:30:36 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Russian officers can tell the difference between and A-4 and a F-4. Bull Crap!!!


13 posted on 11/17/2008 8:30:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain had no honor when he failed to defend Sarah Palin, Leno was no enough)
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To: winoneforthegipper

So McCain is ‘this one’ and Obama ‘THE ONE’?

Okey dokey!


14 posted on 11/17/2008 8:31:47 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: tumblindice

You are right, an A-4E.


15 posted on 11/17/2008 8:32:17 AM PST by ducdriver (Quantum potes tantum aude.)
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To: neodad

You beat me to it!

mcCain flew A4 Intruders!


16 posted on 11/17/2008 8:34:20 AM PST by WayneS (Cynic? I prefer "Realist")
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To: WayneS

Skyhawk, dummy. the Intruder was the A6!


17 posted on 11/17/2008 8:34:47 AM PST by WayneS (Cynic? I prefer "Realist")
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To: winoneforthegipper
Correct his weapon was an A-4 not sure I would assume a translation error if the story is true.

What part of Phanton translates to Shyhawk?

18 posted on 11/17/2008 8:35:47 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Cool. Except that McCain didn’t fly the F-4. And there’s no mistaking an F-4 for A-4 from any angle.


19 posted on 11/17/2008 8:37:44 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: ducdriver

Several of us jumped on that, like ducks on a june bug.


20 posted on 11/17/2008 8:37:47 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: WayneS
A-4 Skyhawk. Intruder was the A-6.
21 posted on 11/17/2008 8:38:55 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

John was an A-4 driver, not a Phantom..


22 posted on 11/17/2008 8:39:04 AM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: cardinal4

Jeez..Freepers are quick! Every post was correcting the aircraft type. As an aside, the Israelis flew the Skyhawk, too. In fact I think it was an A-4 that strafed the Liberty..


23 posted on 11/17/2008 8:41:22 AM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: winoneforthegipper
He spent five and a half years in a POW camp, and claims that he was tortured.

Bunk.

24 posted on 11/17/2008 8:41:51 AM PST by Obadiah (NOMR! - Not One More RINO!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

And here I thought the Russians were only advisors.


25 posted on 11/17/2008 8:42:14 AM PST by printhead
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To: texas booster
"Lying Commies."

Redundant.
26 posted on 11/17/2008 8:42:43 AM PST by shibumi (...vampire outlaw of the milky way...)
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To: tumblindice
“My wife was there and saw the whole thing”
Was she standing with John Kerry watching this airshow?
27 posted on 11/17/2008 8:44:41 AM PST by Milly (Donnelly Clan)
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To: Doohickey

Thanks.

Also, please see post #17.


28 posted on 11/17/2008 8:45:57 AM PST by WayneS (Cynic? I prefer "Realist")
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To: winoneforthegipper

The only problem is that McCain flew a Sky Hawk, not an F4.


29 posted on 11/17/2008 8:46:10 AM PST by y6162 (uot)
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To: Milly

She was sitting on an anti-aircraft gun, smoking hashish with Jane Fonda


30 posted on 11/17/2008 8:47:22 AM PST by WayneS (Cynic? I prefer "Realist")
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To: neodad

I noticed that too. If this “Soviet officer” doesn’t know the difference between an F-4 and an A-4 he’s not too smart.

Plus, I thought McCain was in a flight of 6 or 7 aircraft.


31 posted on 11/17/2008 8:47:36 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: WayneS

You shouldn’t need to resort to personal attacks on yourself. :)


32 posted on 11/17/2008 8:47:39 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
True enough, I was going for the a-4 to f-4 thought!
33 posted on 11/17/2008 8:47:57 AM PST by winoneforthegipper
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To: winoneforthegipper

I know, just yanking your chain a little.


34 posted on 11/17/2008 8:49:28 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: neodad

Yep. total BS.


35 posted on 11/17/2008 8:53:44 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: Doohickey

Yes, I know.

This “as hominem” stuff is becoming quite disgusting, isn’t it?

;^)


36 posted on 11/17/2008 8:54:09 AM PST by WayneS (Cynic? I prefer "Realist")
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To: winoneforthegipper

The story claims F-4s were shot down. McCain’s plane was an A-4, a much smaller aircraft and no way mistaken for and F-4.


37 posted on 11/17/2008 8:58:51 AM PST by pfflier
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To: SCPatriot77; LucyT; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; Allegra
Mccain meeting with Obama today in Chicago.

This is pre press release spin to blunt McCain's statements about the meeting. We must revile the press continually.

What a bunch of unAmerican morons.

No officer would mistake the F15 and A-4. And its not the kind of mistake that would occur in translation.

This is a propagandists mistake. Fiction is often harder to write than fact. In a lie you have to create the world out of whole cloth. Few leftists news rags are up to it.

38 posted on 11/17/2008 8:58:51 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: texas booster
My father said that we regularly overheard Russian technicians in Vietnam manning their missile sites

And East Germans , Czecs, Romanians and Poles with a little Cuban thrown into the mix.

39 posted on 11/17/2008 9:00:54 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Milly

Da! Lt. Kerry had navigated his boat to Hanoi, with passengers: the great film actress Jane Fonda, eminent American politician Ramsey Clark and prize-winning journalist Peter Arnett.
It is seared into my memory as if it happened yesterday! I fired the SAM missiles from my shoulder—one after another—and my Amerikan comrades all clapped and cheered as the planes fell from the sky....
Finally in a magnificent display of proletarian solidarity, Lt. Kerry admitted to being a pawn and lackey of imperialist warlords and swallowed his medals. We then posed for photos and had tea and cakes.


40 posted on 11/17/2008 9:03:26 AM PST by tumblindice (sometimes the sarcasm tag simply isn't needed)
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To: Candor7

Where did F-15 come from? I don’t think that plane was even around when McCain was shot down.


41 posted on 11/17/2008 9:10:32 AM PST by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: winoneforthegipper

A-4 Skyhawk

42 posted on 11/17/2008 9:16:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Red Badger

F-4 Phantom

43 posted on 11/17/2008 9:17:09 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: neodad

A-4, F-4, when you’re young and full of vodka they all look alike....


44 posted on 11/17/2008 9:19:04 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Red Badger

I just read this account of that day’s action.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/McCain-Skyhawk.htm


45 posted on 11/17/2008 9:27:43 AM PST by winoneforthegipper
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To: F15Eagle
I noticed that too. If this “Soviet officer” doesn’t know the difference between an F-4 and an A-4 he’s not too smart.

Either that, or over the years his brain has been "Yeltsin'ed".


46 posted on 11/17/2008 9:33:13 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama: Satan's Counterfeit Christ)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
What part of Phanton translates to Shyhawk?

The one pilot, one engine, 2 gallons of vodka part.

47 posted on 11/17/2008 9:38:55 AM PST by tbpiper (Now irate and tireless, but mostly irate.)
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To: texas booster
There has never been any official acknowledgment that Soviet soldiers served in Vietnam on the side of the communist North Vietnamese in the 1960s and 1970s. However, Trushyekin, currently in a hospital in Russia's second city of St. Petersburg, had no qualms about speaking about his time in the jungles of Southeast Asia.

I met a guy in Kazakhstan who bragged about being in Vietnam. It was at a birthday party, and he was pretty drunk. When his wife heard what he was saying, she ran up and dragged him away...

48 posted on 11/17/2008 9:43:04 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: COBOL2Java

That looks like the only normal thing Yeltsin ever did, LOL


49 posted on 11/17/2008 9:44:11 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: cardinal4

>As an aside, the Israelis flew the Skyhawk, too.<

And Argentina during the Falklands War. From:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-4_Skyhawk

“Argentine Air Force Skyhawks sank HMS Coventry (D118) and HMS Antelope (F170) as well as producing heavy damage to several others: RFA Sir Galahad (1966) (which was subsequently scuttled as a war grave), HMS Glasgow (D88), HMS Argonaut (F56), HMS Broadsword (F88) and RFA Sir Tristram. Argentine Navy A-4Qs, flying from Río Grande, Tierra del Fuego naval airbase, also played a role in the bombing attacks against British ships, destroying HMS Ardent (F184).[18]”

And, from what I recall from reading about the Falklands War, had the Argentines known how to properly arm the bombs, the carnage would have been a lot worse...


50 posted on 11/17/2008 9:45:10 AM PST by LRS ("Good-bye freedom/ hello fear/ A brave new world has suddenly appeared")
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