Exorcism is still available for the Obama supporters.
Posted on 11/17/2008 11:11:08 AM PST by BillyM
A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."
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Yea!
1000 Hail Mary’s for electing the Anti-Christ!
This is great, clergy at all levels, in most if not all sects of Christianity, all around are hammering Obama supporters.
Though once The Messiah takes office, it will be declared racism under the protection of the church, and then they will probably have their tax-free status (is that what it is?) taken away, and they’ll be forced to fend for themselves.
Unless his civilian police force shows up at night to take said clergy off to re-education...
After being told this all his supporters started singing Billy Joel’s “I’d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...”
Whoops!! Forgot that “commitment to life” issue. No communion for YOU!! ;-)
Aw, some evangelical preacher I heard on shortwave the other day has that beat - he says they’re all just flat-out going to hell. That’s it, no do-over, not nuttin, just eternal damnation. Which sounded about right to me! Oh, and can you send a $25 donation to keep this broadcast on the air?
Catholic 0bama voters should be required to work 100 hours in an abortion alternative center,
and listen to the stories from women who come in AFTER an abortion.
“They told me it wasn’t a baby, but after it was over, I KNEW what I had just done.”
“That’s it, no do-over, not nuttin, just eternal damnation.”
Wow — eternal damnation. Worse than jock itch for sure!
Still sounds preferable to an arena filled with lions.
He said supporting 0bama
“constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil.”
He’s right.
Exorcism is still available for the Obama supporters.
” ‘constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil.’
He’s right.”
The Lord always had a wee bit of a problem with people running to false gods. He has never been overly fond of that.
I believe God raised an Esther for this time in our history and we chose a ‘king’ instead. Poor Samuel experienced the same thing. I don’t believe that God is happy with ANY Christian from any faith who voted for Obama. We may face a great deal of persecution and tribulation because of it. God knows we deserve it.
I doubt anyone who knows the Lord will go to hell because he or she voted for Obama. Our salvation isn’t dependent on that choice but what we do with JESUS. Now I do believe that Christians who voted for Obama will receive judgement from God for doing so, but not loss of salvation if they are truly saved.
Could be the start of those of REAL Christian faith who are with courage stand up for the Holy Bible and the TRUE God against this false messiah.
Has Barry written all over it.
This priest is following in the footsteps not only of Jesus but of the prophets, example, Elijah who took on the false prophets.
I was at my Church several weeks ago during our annual spaghetti dinner. (I was passing out pro-life flyers on all the cars before the election) One women from our church told me about a video that was shown years ago. It shows pictures of babies after an abortion. As the women were walking out one woman said to her, "I know that is awful, but I still feel that a woman has the right to choose". The woman who told me this could not believe this! Even after seeing the video they still think women have the right to choose! I do not know if the woman who said that was Catholic, this video was open to the pubic, and a lot of people came.
Whenever someone says “right to choose”,
ALWAYS
add “to kill their unborn child”, just to clarify what they are “choosing”.
” this video was open to the pubic,”
They had THAT kind of a party at a church? (sorry - couldn’t resist :) )
IMHO, even knowing the words to a Billy Joel song is a grave sin. Repent now, save yourself!
Sarah Palin - large family, good Christian, pregnant daughter (chose life), Trig (chose life)
Joe W - honest, hard working guy, asked a simple question, exposed 0bama’s support for slavery (socialism)
Gianna Jessen - survived a saline abortion, testifying today about it
God brought these people forth for this election to give America the last chance to choose between Good and Evil.
... Which places us round about Revelation 6...
I disagree. We are here to be judged and we were admonished that whatsoever we do th the least of His brethren, that we do unto Him. Unless you can somehow deny that the unborn are his brethren you have supported the destruction of Jesus.
*snicker*
Hey, it was the eighties....
And if they say, "Well it's a woman's reproductive right? Show them this....
This guy is merely reminding Christians that their actions should reflect their stated beliefs.
CONGRATS TO THE PRIEST WITH SOME ETHICS, INTEGRITY, A BRAIN, SOME BIBLICAL UNDERSTANDING AND SOME . . . COURAGE.
“add “to kill their unborn child”, just to clarify what they are “choosing”.”
I will not argue that with them.
I will only ask them to reconsider, and ask them in a kind why.
If they still go through with the abortion, they will find out the truth..............the hard way....but they will find out.
"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exits constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."
Newman trumps Ratzinger??
This article is “SOUTH CAROLINA PRIEST”, and this is what HE said.
Why do you want to argue about this?
Where did I say one trumps the other?
Do you just have a need to be obnoxious?
OK, not being Catholic myself, and not really caring about it so much,
I just latched onto the very true statement that Newman made.
I really like the phraseology. “material cooperation with intrinsic evil” just rolls out there like a red carpet.
This is the clincher. There is no proportionate reason that would be applicable between McCain and Obama with regards to life vs. death. The contrast is so stark it cannot be reasoned away. So the priest is absolutely in line with the Pope. This is why you had possessed Catholics trying to confuse the faithful during this election.
Pope John Paul II calls War a Defeat for Humanity:
Neoconservative Iraq Just War Theories Rejected
John Paul II stated before the 2003 war that this war would be a defeat for humanity which could not be morally or legally justified.
In the weeks and months before the U.S. attacked Iraq, not only the Holy Father, but also one Cardinal and Archbishop after another at the Vatican spoke out against a "preemptive" or "preventive" strike. They declared that the just war theory could not justify such a war. Archbishop Jean-Louis Tauran said that such a "war of aggression" is a crime against peace. Archbishop Renato Martino, who used the same words in calling the possible military intervention a "crime against peace that cries out vengeance before God," also criticized the pressure that the most powerful nations exerted on the less powerful ones on the U.N. Security Council to support the war. The Pope spoke out almost every day against war and in support of diplomatic efforts for peace.
John Paul II sent his personal representative, Cardinal Pio Laghi, a friend of the Bush family, to remonstrate with the U.S. President before the war began. Pio Laghi said such a war would be illegal and unjust. The message was clear: God is not on your side if you invade Iraq.
Your flag decal won't get you in to heaven anymore
It's already over crowded from your dirty little war
Now Jesus don't like killin
No matter what the reason for
And your flag decal won't get you in to heaven anymore
John Prine
Doesn’t the fact that he “talks good” and has a high skin melanin content provide that “proportionate” reason? /sarc
No proportionate reasons existed in this election. "I didn't like the other guy" isn't a proportionate reason.
I posted this earlier on another thread. Maybe it will help you. It’s nice that you are asking questions. I’m a Catholic and even I can get confused.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/14/catholic-priest-pummeling-obama-voters/
Exactly. And we chose evil. Sad for the country, eh?
No, you need to go to Jesus and repent for the choices you’ve made. Many have committed horrendous sin in their lives, including abortion. My salvation doesn’t depend on anything but Jesus and his forgiveness. My blessings from God would certainly be impacted by my voting for Obama, but not my salvation.
He COULD be tougher on abortion than Ratzinger. Who knows?
The only sin we can go to hell for is blaspheming the HS. We can be forgiven for anything but that.
Yes, they should but people are easily deceived these days.
“which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.”
Those key words are typically ignored. It was made clear that no proportionate reasons existed to justify voting for Obama over McCain.
Catholics can pretend all they want, but those Catholics who voted for Obama are morally complicit with and are culpable for his pro-abortion activities while in office. The bishops, while not affecting the vote, did, by their teaching, eliminate the possibility of non-culpable ignorance.
Catholics who voted so will be judged harshly by God with damnation, if they don’t repent before death. It is an inescapable fact.
The problem today is that most Catholics don’t believe in objective truth, or in their duty to learn what is true and false. That ‘disbelief’ increases their guilt in God’s eyes rather than diminish it.
All that, of course, assumes that the Catholics in this case oppose abortion. The fact is that most actually agree with the proposition that a woman has a right to choose, making all of those possible formal cooperators in evil (ie, if they voted for Obama for that reason).
‘The only sin we can go to hell for is blaspheming the HS. We can be forgiven for anything but that.’
KJV Matthew Ch 25:
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
I'm not sure where in the Catechism you got that. God is infinitely capable of forgiveness. I always thought that the rejection of God by the conscious choice of evil over good is the unforgivable sin.
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