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Secret Ballots, Blatant Irony (Senate Dems to use secret ballot for Lieberman's fate!)
NRO ^ | November 17, 2008 | Mark Hemingway

Posted on 11/17/2008 8:57:30 PM PST by neverdem

Congressional Quarterly:

Senator Says Secret-Ballot in Private Meeting to Determine Whether Democrats Punish Lieberman

Senate Democrats will vote by secret ballot on Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman ’s fate this week, according to North Dakota Sen. Byron L. Dorgan .

The caucus is due to meet Tuesday to decide whether Lieberman, a Democrat-turned-independent from Connecticut, should be punished for his aggressive support of Sen. John McCain , R-Ariz., for president.

Secret ballot, eh? Well, reminding Democrats of this episode should prove amusing when they try and pass card check legislation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cardcheck; joementum; liberalrepublican; lieberman; secretballots; senatedemcaucus

1 posted on 11/17/2008 8:57:30 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Speaking of card check. What is the ultimate goal of it? To find out who votes against union representation or something else. Because all I hear is how the unions can take advantage of it to coerce non-supporters. To me if that is the only goal I am surprised they are pushing this thug tactic.


2 posted on 11/17/2008 9:01:08 PM PST by TheOgre
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To: neverdem

It won’t bother them a bit, the ‘rats are immune to charges of hypocrisy. They don’t care about rules, as long as they win.


3 posted on 11/17/2008 9:02:25 PM PST by mrsmel (That one is not my president.)
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To: neverdem

If only republican office holders & registered voters would understand the degree that liberals have for their ideology then maybe they would get in the trenches or shall I say faces & lives of these socialists/communist/anti-Americans & force them into the cesspools that they deserve


4 posted on 11/17/2008 9:03:37 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: TheOgre

Why are you surprised ?

Unions are nothing BUT thugs !


5 posted on 11/17/2008 9:03:51 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: TheOgre

If the union can “convince” enough workers in a shop to sign a union card no vote will be required.


6 posted on 11/17/2008 9:05:49 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

Thanks. That makes alittle more sense now.


7 posted on 11/17/2008 9:08:36 PM PST by TheOgre
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To: TheOgre

“Give me your card, or Guido and Mario will TAKE IT from you in the parking lot.”


8 posted on 11/17/2008 9:12:00 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: mrsmel
It won’t bother them a bit, the ‘rats are immune to charges of hypocrisy. They don’t care about rules, as long as they win.

That's true, and the GOP used to be the party of merit, responsibility and integrity. Since the Republicans abandoned those principles, why should the Dems fear any backlash? They just lie as long as it is necessary. Remember pay-as-you-go? More bullshit they didn't believe in but the press gave them a pass on. The GOP has to get it's act together and exorcize the legacy of Duke Cunningham, Mark Foley, and the big spenders in their ranks.

9 posted on 11/17/2008 9:14:37 PM PST by MovementConservative (In 4 years GW Bush and the free-spending republicans have almost completely destroyed the GOP.)
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To: neverdem

What happens to Lieberman if he switches his (D) to an (R)?


10 posted on 11/17/2008 9:23:15 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: neverdem

What exactly do they want to do to Lieberman?


11 posted on 11/17/2008 9:25:35 PM PST by RaiderRose (No thanks, Barry. You can keep the Change.)
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To: neverdem
High School Boys Club complete with secret handshake...

OR

Democrat Leadership...

YOU MAKE THE CALL

12 posted on 11/17/2008 9:28:13 PM PST by NordP (PALIN POWER: She's Reagan in heels, Teddy Roosevelt in a dress & like Rummy at a press conference!)
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To: TheOgre
"Speaking of card check. What is the ultimate goal of it? To find out who votes against union representation or something else. Because all I hear is how the unions can take advantage of it to coerce non-supporters. To me if that is the only goal I am surprised they are pushing this thug tactic."

I was utterly astonished that the RNC or some 527 did not make an ad of an employee with a cigar-smoking boss leaning over his shoulder while he agonized over a "yes" or "no," followed by a voice-over: "Barack Obama: Proud enemy of the secret ballot."

Or tweak the ad with a name change for appropriate Senate candidates.

13 posted on 11/17/2008 9:31:14 PM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: neverdem

**reminding Democrats of this episode should prove amusing when they try and pass card check legislation.**

LOL!

They are all chickens, they don’t want Lieberman to know who voted him out. And I believe Joe Lieberman is more of a man than to care anything about it!


14 posted on 11/17/2008 9:33:51 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: TheThinker
They will NOT F with him right now. They want the 60. If they make it tough for him I think he switches.

I, for one, am willing to guarantee that I will donate $1000.00 to Liby if he switches, who will follow here?

Let's get a tally.

15 posted on 11/17/2008 9:42:50 PM PST by WomBom (I wonder if my gear is down? We would have touched by now.......Right?)
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To: TheOgre

My understanding is that instead of having employees take a secret ballot, it allows union organizers to go around “asking” employees if they want to organize. The employees under duress are then “asked” to fill out signature cards. When the union thugs get signature cards for over 50% of the employees they are allowed to “organize” the rest.


16 posted on 11/17/2008 9:44:18 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: TheThinker
What happens to Lieberman if he switches his (D) to an (R)?

For one thing he'd fit right in with RINOS like McCain.

17 posted on 11/17/2008 9:45:20 PM PST by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: WomBom
I, for one, am willing to guarantee that I will donate $1000.00 to Liby if he switches, who will follow here?

I think Lieberman's an authentic Jew. Why would he let Obama steamroll Israel?

18 posted on 11/17/2008 9:49:12 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: neverdem

I don’t think the Dems are wise to screw w/ Lieberman. 4 yrs from now, he’s going to be the closest thing they have to Nostrodamus. Hell, he could even run for Pres, and be taken seriously.


19 posted on 11/17/2008 10:11:46 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: neverdem

The secret ballot is to protect them from DailyKos maniacs who are screaming to have Lieberman expelled.


20 posted on 11/17/2008 10:16:10 PM PST by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: TheThinker; RaiderRose
What happens to Lieberman if he switches his (D) to an (R)?

Lieberman is an independent, but votes with the Senate dem caucus, except on matters of war. He retained his seniority. He's chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, and some others, maybe Agriculture, IIRC. Check the link at the beginning of the story. They might strip him of those positions.

21 posted on 11/17/2008 10:23:20 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Why doesn’t Liberman beat them to it and take the fun out of it for them.


22 posted on 11/17/2008 11:43:54 PM PST by volslover
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To: SC Swamp Fox

I think we should form an anti-union union. We could contract out to defend non-union members.

Of course, we’d have to whine at ourselves, our union dues and the lazy ass union officers we’ll elect who collect a paycheck and don’t do anything, but we will have representation!!


23 posted on 11/17/2008 11:44:37 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah! Kneel before Obamohammad!)
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To: USNBandit

Of course, this type of abuse can go the other way too. Politically connected companies can squeeze out the unions as long as they got pull. Either way, workers lose.


24 posted on 11/18/2008 1:31:02 AM PST by LenS
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