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HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE: A SOCIAL SCIENCE VIEW
http://www.narth.com ^ | October 5, 2008 | By Dr. Laura A. Haynes, Psychologist

Posted on 11/18/2008 3:53:02 PM PST by Maelstorm

Many people have heard that homosexuality is largely genetically determined, homosexual relationships are essentially the same as heterosexual relationships except for the gender of the partners, homosexual parenting and heterosexual parenting are no different in their affects on children, and homosexual marriage will decrease stigma and thereby increase mental health in our society. A social science perspective and research review give a dramatically different picture.

Some say it does not matter who is loving children as long as they are loved. I saw a resume written by a male homosexual couple seeking a birthmother to give her baby to them to adopt. The heading was, “Your Child Will Have Two Loving Dads.” An unspoken consequence was, “Your Child Will Be Motherless.” It is hard to imagine the experience of a child who never had a mother or never had a father. Some psychotherapists who treat children of same sex couples are reporting that the children do long for the gendered parent they do not have.

(Excerpt) Read more at narth.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deviants; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; homosexuals; marriage; narth; perverts; research
This is a great article. It is a pdf and worth reading by anyone who needs more ammunition to counter gay activist propaganda.
1 posted on 11/18/2008 3:53:02 PM PST by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

“...two dads...” The fact is that Moms are hard wired to give nurture and tender loving care that Dads are simply not able to match. Many children don’t have both Mom and Dad, but clearly they yearn for and develop better with both, not withstanding some exceptions to the rule, of which I’m sure to hear about now!.


2 posted on 11/18/2008 4:04:56 PM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: Maelstorm

“Homosexual parenting and heterosexual parenting are no different in their affects on children.”

HOGWASH!


3 posted on 11/18/2008 4:10:51 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Maelstorm
It's ludicrous that we're even discussing this.

Just 20 years ago - and for the previous million years or so - it wasn't even a topic because it was absurd.

The thing is concocted out of whole cloth.

There are lots of underlying reasons for this being done right now, but one fact remains clear: this has NEVER been tolerated, much less the norm, in any human society of note.

If there were one or two that did, they died out in a generation.

Two of the same don't have what it takes to make more. Evolution will do the rest.

4 posted on 11/18/2008 4:15:05 PM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe)
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To: elpadre
Many children don’t have both Mom and Dad, but clearly they yearn for and develop better with both...

My sis, the social worker, is a lifelong bleeding heart liberal. Yet, much to my surprise (and satisfaction), she is dead set against gay adoption.

Even she recognizes that children need a mother and a father. Not two daddies or two mommies.

5 posted on 11/18/2008 4:17:39 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Maelstorm
I agree, what a good writing. I bet the author has run into trouble, especially now, as a result of this paper.

However, it is strange that we're at the point of even having to discuss the issue.

6 posted on 11/18/2008 4:22:12 PM PST by 103198
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To: Maelstorm

If two men or two women made perfectly good parents, I am sure that God, in His infinite wisdom, would have programmed them to conceive.

I once tutored the 13 year old daughter of a woman and her “partner”. Trust me, the poor girl was so ashamed when those two selfish people brought her to the door. She just looked down at the floor and said very little for a long time.


7 posted on 11/18/2008 4:29:05 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Maelstorm

Thanks for posting. We added the link to this article in our own article:

http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-rights.


8 posted on 11/18/2008 4:38:11 PM PST by grumpa (VP)
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To: Maelstorm
"Many people have heard that homosexuality is largely genetically determined,..."

BIRTH DEFECT!

9 posted on 11/18/2008 4:45:20 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Regulator
Just for historical reference.... in every revolution the world has ever experienced, who were the ones who got killed first.

1) Homosexuals

2) Free thinkers ( not to be confused with freedom thinkers)

3) intellectuals. (generally the pseudo intellectuals, not the genuinely smart people)

10 posted on 11/18/2008 4:46:11 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Those who live by the sword risk being shot by those who don’t.)
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To: JudyinCanada
The bottom line is that children are forced into these unholy and immoral situations.
And it's Disgusting. The suicide rate must be high among those children



11 posted on 11/18/2008 4:46:42 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: JudyinCanada

That’s why they need to start massive indoctrination in kindergarten. So the kids don’t feel ashamed of their “parents.” Strangely, there was really no such effort to normalize mixed race marriages.


12 posted on 11/18/2008 4:53:43 PM PST by informavoracious (It's after midnight, I'm FReepwalking...)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

If that were true, two single mothers living together would mitigate the horrific statistics that arise from fatherless households. Yet multi-generational single parent families (grandma, mom, kids) are just as bad if not worse. And that is 2 heterosexual, related women raising kids together.


13 posted on 11/18/2008 5:05:37 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

B.S it’s not a birth defect....it is a character flaw.

Homosexuals don’t reproduce, they recruit.

And...at some point you have to decide whether you’re going to s**k some guy’s c**k or if you’re going to let him bone you up the arse. There is always a moment of truth....that last minute decision to proceed or stop.

Genetic does not make that choice for you.

A black guy does not have the last minute choice of deciding “yep I’m going to be black”, or “nope...I’m not”.


14 posted on 11/18/2008 5:13:31 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Those who live by the sword risk being shot by those who don’t.)
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To: JudyinCanada

I know a girl whose Mother after divorcing her father had a partner. The father tried for years to gain custody and finally did when she was 12 and could have a say in court. That girl has never seen her Mother since moving out and she is nearly 30 now. She just doens’t forgiveher for what she put her and her sister through.


15 posted on 11/18/2008 5:13:32 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: JudyinCanada

I know a bit about it myself and what strikes me as most shameful is how this movement has left all considerations for the children and even the well being of the homosexuals themselves out of the equation. I dated a girl whose parents left her and her older sisters to raise her and her brother. The one older sister left having gotten married and the remaining one began raising the two kids while trying to keep the house. She ended up in a relationship of convenience with another woman. I was told she was her cousin but I don’t know if that is true. I had no idea they were involved sexually as my Girlfriend’s sister always seemed very interested in men. The other lady seemed a little rough for a woman but she was nice enough. She had been burned as a child and really wasn’t the type that many men would have found attractive. She also liked to work on cars. I held no bad feelings toward them but the one thing that is clear is that it was a “family” built entirely on dysfunction. It was enough with the parents leaving but the other just added to the mess.

I have another gay male friend whose uncle was gay and molested him as a child. His uncle went on an arson spree burning buildings down. Now my friend has many lower intestinal problems due to his lifestyle. He may even have worse because he looked like he was frail the last time I saw him.

I could go on but the common thread I’ve found is that homosexual lives are marked more so than most by dysfunction. Many are painfully alone even when out and putting on a show. Many insulate themselves with just as many lies once out of the closet as when they were in it.
Whether it be young lesbians trying as much as possible to look like boys to pick up straight girls that usually even if temporarily successful result in disappointment as the girls leave them for men or men who end up looking for targets of opportunity which usually ends up with them trying to manipulate and often abusing young men who they have access to.

The thing I’ve witnessed is that these individuals can best be said to have built themselves a prison with their embracing of their homosexuality. =


16 posted on 11/18/2008 5:57:06 PM PST by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Maelstorm

as a kid who grew up in foster homes I can honestly say that a child wants a mother and a father
I knew of no kids who wanted two dads or two mums

children should not be a mouse in their experiment and to me it is classed as child abuse


17 posted on 11/18/2008 6:20:17 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

sir francis
I do not think I have ever read a post of yours I have ever disagreed on


18 posted on 11/18/2008 6:21:40 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: MaxMax

I know of one child a boy who did kill himself and the social services enevr took him out of the situation.

he grew up all confused


19 posted on 11/18/2008 6:22:48 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Maelstorm

When the liberals decided to make smoking their latest method of controlling people, the thing that they harped on the most was it lowered the expected life span 5 years and increased potential of contracting heart and lung ailments. Not only do you not live as long you are not as healty.

Now, what responsible adult, especially loving parents would condone and encourage a lifestyle that would shorten a child’s life by 20 years, and during that lifetime would increase the child’s chances of contracting a chronic or terminal illness or infection by 50%, and expose that child to a lifetime of depression, anxiety, substance abuse, drug addiction and potential to being abused sexually and physically.

You might as well give them a gun and encourage them to try Russian roulette, or sky dive without a parachute or drive a car 100 mph without wearing a seatbelt. If a parent would suggest any of those behaviors they would be guilty of child abuse, but allowing schools to portray homosexuality as a lifestyle choice that has no consequences is being a good parent?

Only in a liberal’s world which is much like an Xrated Wayne’s world except without humor would anyone want a lifestyle for any of their loved ones that has this many consequences.

Shame and guilt are usually society’s way of keeping people from making incredibly stupid mistakes. They want to remove all shame and guilt and they want us to give them a standing ovation for choosing that lifestyle.

Sorry - even though I would not love my child any less, I certainly would spend a lot more time worrying about their well being.


20 posted on 11/18/2008 6:52:04 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: Regulator
Ah, but then there has never been such a concerted, albeit it gradual, effort to instill socialist/communist govt and society in the US. This IS the goal, and it will be achieved by eliminating moral codes and values. Think about it, a moral society exists and is successful due to what it promotes, self reliance, self improvement, self achievement, self discipline, religious freedom and belief, small government, no need for social programs because of all these values, all the things that a free society propagates, and communism hates. Why? BIG Government! Everyone eventually reliant on govt, and govt growing by the day because of it. Power.

This is why the left is so intent on destroying values, families, churches, anything that keeps the masses in charge of their own lives and futures. I am no conspiracy theorist, this as all very plain to see. Look into any socialist or communist country, and you see the lack of all those freedoms, and the huge government with most people reliant on them.

21 posted on 11/18/2008 7:15:23 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: ODDITHER
"Sorry - even though I would not love my child any less, I certainly would spend a lot more time worrying about their well being.

Of course you would still love them, because love is unconditional, but...........approval is not. You would worry, as any rational parent would, and I am sure, try to convince them of what was in store for them. No parent would do less, if they indeed love their child. We would never suggest they "safe smoke" or practice "safe drug use", yet we encourage safe homosexual sex activities in school? There is no such thing. Rational people don't think so.

22 posted on 11/18/2008 7:32:33 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Ouderkirk
Homosexuals don’t reproduce, they recruit.

They are a fanatic fantasy cult. My response was sarcasm...

23 posted on 11/19/2008 6:17:25 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

I knew that you were being sarcastic.

But it was fun to call you out on it just the same....;)


24 posted on 11/19/2008 10:27:14 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Those who live by the sword risk being shot by those who don’t.)
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To: gidget7
I am no conspiracy theorist, this as all very plain to see

And you would be right.

Gramscian cultural Marxism and the Long March Through the Institutions is well known.

This is the vision: the abolition of the family and of property, total dependence on the state, with the attraction being hedonistic freedom - don't worry, engage in any behavior you want, we'll raise the kiddies for you (where they will of course become obedient droids) if you accidentally have one, you can be an adolescent all your life, we in the Vanguard of the Revolution will make all your decisions for you.

Marx painted this vision first. His disciples in the 20th century concocted the strategy to implement it in places that were "resistant".

So now in California we see angry perverts attacking Christian women on the streets. Could that have been imagined just 10 years ago?

And the Communist filth sit in their dingy offices smiling, because things are going to plan.

25 posted on 11/19/2008 3:43:09 PM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe)
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