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Anecdotal Evidence of Extremely High Gun Sales
Classic Arms Website ^ | November 18, 2008 | Classic Arms

Posted on 11/18/2008 10:30:09 PM PST by ikka

TODAY IS TUESDAY 11/18/2008

THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS GOING ON IN THE INDUSTRY. I KNOW THE FOLLOWING IS WORDY BUT READING IT MAY HELP YOU DECIDE WHETHER TO BUY NOW.

OKAY - HERE IS THE DEAL

LAST WEEK WE SOLD OUT VIRTUALLY TO THE BARE WALLS. WE HAD A TON OF INVENTORY LAID IN AND STOCKPILED IN ANTICIPATION OF THE PANIC BUYING THAT WOULD BE CREATED BY THE ELECTION. IT SIMPLY WAS NOT ENOUGH. IF IT SHOOTS OR HOLDS ROUNDS OF AMMO IT PRETTY MUCH LEFT HERE LAST WEEK.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.

AROUND WEDNESDAY OF LAST WEEK WE CHANGED OUR FOCUS FROM SELLING, TO TRYING TO BEG, BUY AND SCROUNGE ANYTHING WE COULD PURCHASE. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. MOST OF THE INDUSTRY IS EITHER OUT OF SEMI-AUTO FIREARMS, MAGS, AND AMMO, OR THEY HAVE PUSHED THE PRICE WAY UP IN ORDER TO SLOW SALES AND KEEP FROM BEING WHERE WE BASICALLY ARE NOW. SOLD OUT TO THE BARE WALLS. THE LARGEST IMPORTER IN THE COUNTRY AS OF LAST MONDAY HAS SUSPENDED SALES OF ALL OF THEIR HI-CAPACITY MAGAZINES AND RAISED PRICES ON ENTIRE CLASSES OF FIREARMS BY 25% TO 40% ACROSS THE BOARD. THE PRICE INCREASE IS REALLY IRREVALENT HOWEVER AS THEY HAVE NO AVAILABLE QUANTITIES ON ANY OF THESE FIREARMS.

LET ME GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE.

IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, ( JULY THRU OCTOBER ) WE SOLD THE FOLLOWING

7.62X39 AMMO................361 CASES
AK 30 RD MAGS.....................................783
AK RIFLES (ALL TYPES ) .........................243

BY COMPARISON, IN THE 10 DAYS SINCE THE ELECTION WE HAVE SOLD

7.62X39 AMMO................1218 CASES
AK 30 RD MAGS.....................................3855
AK RIFLES (ALL TYPES ) .........................572

THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THE AR RIFLES, GOLANI RIFLES, TANTALS, AND OTHER FIREARMS THAT HAVE ALSO SOLD LIKE WILDFIRE.

SOME OF OUR LARGER DEALER CUSTOMERS HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO PLACE ORDERS FOR HUNDREDS OF FIREARMS WITH US WHEN WE ONLY HAD DOZENS IN STOCK.

WE ARE VERY SMALL AND THESE ARE HUGE NUMBERS FOR US. WE WOULD HAVE SOLD MORE TOO EXCEPT WE SIMPLY COULD NOT ANSWER ALL THE CALLS, AND THEN WE SOLD OUT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS IN BUYING. WE PURCHASED PRODUCT ANYWHERE WE COULD FIND IT WITHOUT MUCH REGARD FOR THE PRICE. IT WAS ALL WE KNEW TO DO. IT WAS EITHER THAT OR BE SOLD OUT AND CLOSE THE DOORS.

WE ARE POSTING BELOW THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR SALE. SOME OTHER ITEMS WILL BE COMING ON BOARD OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS AND WE WILL POST THEM UP AS THEY ARRIVE. THE PRICES ARE HIGHER . I CAN'T APOLIGIZE FOR THAT. IN MOST CASES WE ARE PAYING MORE AND MAKING LESS. IF YOU NEED THESE ITEMS AND CAN FIND THEM FOR LESS ELSEWHERE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET THEM.

I HOPE AGAINST HOPE THAT THIS MARKET WILL LEVEL BACK OUT SOON, BUT WITH BANS AND RESTCTIONS BEING ONE OF THE PRIMARY STATED GOALS OF THIS NEW ADMINISTRATIONS I JUST DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING.


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Please post here, any other anecdotal evidence, personal observations, etc. that show the level of gun and ammo-buying that you see going on.

Unfortunately the original text was all in CAPS - sorry for the shouting. I have trimmed out the rest of the page that includes what they have for sale, as it is not relevant to the discussion.

1 posted on 11/18/2008 10:30:09 PM PST by ikka
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To: ikka

Are any gun companies publically traded?


2 posted on 11/18/2008 10:38:20 PM PST by wac3rd (Conservatives are not always Republicans...and vice-versa.)
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To: wac3rd
Yes, SMWHC is Smith and Wesson, they got sold off after they did the dirty deal with the Clinton administration. They are now back in American hands. There is also RGR, which is Ruger.

Both Glock, and Browning, are privately held however, as well as Remington.

3 posted on 11/18/2008 10:41:28 PM PST by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: ikka

(You can always copy it to Word, and format it to “sentence caps” copy and paste back....Took 20 secs.)

Today is tuesday 11/18/2008
There are some important things going on in the industry. I know the following is wordy but reading it may help you decide whether to buy now.

Okay - here is the deal

Last week we sold out virtually to the bare walls. We had a ton of inventory laid in and stockpiled in anticipation of the panic buying that would be created by the election. It simply was not enough. If it shoots or holds rounds of ammo it pretty much left here last week.

I have never seen anything like it.
Around wednesday of last week we changed our focus from selling, to trying to beg, buy and scrounge anything we could purchase. It was very difficult. Most of the industry is either out of semi-auto firearms, mags, and ammo, or they have pushed the price way up in order to slow sales and keep from being where we basically are now. Sold out to the bare walls. The largest importer in the country as of last monday has suspended sales of all of their hi-capacity magazines and raised prices on entire classes of firearms by 25% to 40% across the board. The price increase is really irrevalent however as they have no available quantities on any of these firearms.

Let me give you some perspective.
In the third quarter of this year, ( july thru october ) we sold the following
7.62x39 ammo................361 cases
ak 30 rd mags.....................................783
ak rifles (all types ) .........................243
By comparison, in the 10 days since the election we have sold
7.62x39 ammo................1218 cases
ak 30 rd mags.....................................3855
ak rifles (all types ) .........................572

That is in addition to the ar rifles, golani rifles, tantals, and other firearms that have also sold like wildfire.

Some of our larger dealer customers have been attempting to place orders for hundreds of firearms with us when we only had dozens in stock.

We are very small and these are huge numbers for us. We would have sold more too except we simply could not answer all the calls, and then we sold out.

The good news is we have had some success in buying. We purchased product anywhere we could find it without much regard for the price. It was all we knew to do. It was either that or be sold out and close the doors.
We are posting below the things that we have available for sale. Some other items will be coming on board over the next several days and we will post them up as they arrive. The prices are higher . I can’t apoligize for that. In most cases we are paying more and making less. If you need these items and can find them for less elsewhere, i encourage you to get them.

I hope against hope that this market will level back out soon, but with bans and restctions being one of the primary stated goals of this new administrations i just don’t see it happening.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.


4 posted on 11/18/2008 10:43:34 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: ikka

The evidence is a little more than anecdotal. I’ve checked on gun sales in 4 (admittedly red) states and guns and ammo are selling at a much higher rate than previously. Patriots are jittery over Obama and the infamous Executive Order. I ordered more ammo as soon as I started believing the polls.


5 posted on 11/18/2008 10:43:58 PM PST by Nucluside
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To: Nucluside

Picked up 1000 rounds for my AK tonight, next paycheck going to pick up another 1000 rounds and every paycheck after that till January 21st.


6 posted on 11/18/2008 10:46:20 PM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: Nucluside

Those that just now bought firearms are a little late to the game and are probably not proficient with what they bought. Those that just ordered extra ammunition and did not need to buy new firearms, understand what the game is.


7 posted on 11/18/2008 10:59:30 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: cpdiii

Those that just now bought firearms are a little late to the game and are probably not proficient with what they bought. Those that just ordered extra ammunition and did not need to buy new firearms, understand what the game is.


8 posted on 11/18/2008 11:00:41 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Edizzl79
You and I are on the same spending program, Edizz.

Oh, and I will NOT be stopping at a Starbucks on the way to the gun shop. All monies now go only to guns, ammo, food, or gas. Obama can keep the rest of his "nation."

9 posted on 11/18/2008 11:10:15 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: cpdiii

How many guns would you say is needed? I’m hearing of people buying tons of guns and wonder why. We have a Desert Eagle and a Magnum .357. Both are too big for me, so I know we need a smaller handgun. We should probably get a rifle for hunting and a shotgun. Is this about right or do we need more?


10 posted on 11/18/2008 11:10:52 PM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: cpdiii

But you need to trust that they’ll learn. What is it that you want?


11 posted on 11/18/2008 11:15:11 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: ikka

This story gives me great comfort.


12 posted on 11/18/2008 11:18:06 PM PST by pankot
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To: ChocChipCookie

Check out the new .327 magnum snubbie. Small but lotsa bang for your buck.


13 posted on 11/18/2008 11:20:12 PM PST by pankot
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To: ikka

http://www.jgsales.com (Arizona)

Welcome To J&G Sales

Welcome Guest! Would you like to log yourself in? Or would you prefer to create an account?

PICK A CATEGORY TO THE LEFT TO BEGIN SHOPPING

DUE TO EXTREMELY HIGH ORDER VOLUME WE ARE RUNNING 10-14 DAYS BEHIND ON SHIPPING ORDERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.


14 posted on 11/19/2008 5:12:55 AM PST by dynachrome (Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: ikka

CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL


15 posted on 11/19/2008 6:10:00 AM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: ikka

Get ‘em while they’re hot.


16 posted on 11/19/2008 6:13:02 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: Old Grumpy
Get ‘em while they’re hot.

That's the problem, they are all hot, and therefore, expensive.

My anecdotal evidence? Go look at Ammoman.com, and see how little of the .223 ammunition is still in stock, and those guys are usually pretty well stocked!

17 posted on 11/19/2008 6:17:36 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

not everything. being that i stuff my own, and use mostly cast lead, prices haven’t changed a whole lot for me.
as far as guns, i don’t need to spend alot of money, i’ll wait til things calm down and continue to wait for good deals to buy anything.


18 posted on 11/19/2008 6:30:55 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: AnalogReigns

That is very clever, thanks for doing that!


19 posted on 11/19/2008 6:31:42 AM PST by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: Nucluside

I read a report from another site I frequent, a gun show in Texas. One of the gun show vendors brought a tractor-trailer of ammunition, (which would be 20 or 40 pallets depending on weight and if the pallets can be stacked) - and sold out before the end of the show.


20 posted on 11/19/2008 6:33:50 AM PST by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: absolootezer0

I don’t reload, and I don’t have the arsenal i desire, so if I want it, i’lll have to pay top dollar.

I’m finally at the point I can do something baout it, and everything is either gone, or way expensive. There have been dozens of news articles in my blue state, and almost as many TV news stories. Stock is gone in the weapon I want to obtain.


21 posted on 11/19/2008 6:35:18 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

watchu looking for? the nice thing about a recession in MI is no one has money to buy anything so the dealers end up with stock sitting. :)


22 posted on 11/19/2008 6:37:05 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Thanks for the post, I hadn’t seen ammoman before.


23 posted on 11/19/2008 6:39:00 AM PST by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new enviromentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: Miss Behave

It is a moral imperative to not “cooperate with intrinsic evil”, as supporting anything 0bama constitutes.

Folks need to look into legal tax reduction strategies - believe me, you can do more, to reduce the amount that they are funding evil.

The most evil thing that I’ve recently come across is China declaring that it has carbon credits to sell due to its abortion policies. IE, you and I will be paying them with our wealth because they force abortions and sterilization.


24 posted on 11/19/2008 6:43:38 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: ikka

I’ve been to two shows in the last two weeks. I don’t need any articles or news to tell me people are scared. When I see people lined up down the aisle to pay 50% more than usual for AK’s and AR’s and ammo that tells me all I need to know.

Nobody with a brain trust Obama or the Dems.


25 posted on 11/19/2008 6:44:24 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: ikka

Here in the Loony Left Mecca of Oregon, where there are a surprising number of gun people outside of the Portland/Eugene corridor of liberal nuts, I went to the Salem gun show on Saturday, November 15th, and there was NO Ammuntion remaining for sale, NONE. All the usual ammo vendors were completely out of cheap ammo like Wolf, S&B, etc.. Also, there was a decent supply of cheap AK’s, but No AR’s, M1A’S, Sig 556’s etc... Everyone has sold out of there current supply and have a bunch of guns on backorder. I am going to the Portland gun show this weekend to check out how bad it’s getting.

I believe the people, myself included, who are out buying additional firearms are playing it smart, and most are not “panic buying” per se. We went down this road with Bill Clinton in 1994, so we have some experience with Democrats and guns. If Obama and the Democrats in Congress make any move, that will no doubt be very well publicized, to reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban, or impose new taxes on Ammo or restrictions on firearms, it will cause an even bigger gun purchase craze and result in gun prices going through the roof. I’d say it’s even money that the Democrats will at least attempt some new form of gun laws.

However, if no new gun laws are pursued, firearms unless they are very badly abused, are really a good store of value and the liklihood of breaking even or making a few bucks on resale in a few years is actually very good. They are a far safer investment than stocks in the short term right now.

I am betting on new gun laws, so I am stocking up. If you money to spend, buy guns. If no new gun laws are passed, you can re-sell it in a few years at break even, if a bunch a new gun laws are passed, the God help us all.


26 posted on 11/19/2008 6:45:31 AM PST by Bell407Pilot (Bigger Flare, Level with Forward Cyclic, Raise Collective to Cushion.......)
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To: ChocChipCookie

You have it right but you might want to get some reloading equipment and learn how to use it in case resrictions on ammo become reality. Its also not a bad idea and lots of fun to get at least one black powder revolver and a supply of materials as a backup.


27 posted on 11/19/2008 6:46:43 AM PST by Leg Olam (I have a dream that one day, chickens can cross roads without having their motives questioned)
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To: ikka

The two gun shops I frequent have been selling everything like there was no tomorrow. One said that October and November have been their busiest 2 months in their 52 year history.

On-line ammo suppliers are also experiencing shortages. Midway USA and Sportsman’s Guide both have ammo on backorder.


28 posted on 11/19/2008 6:47:58 AM PST by CholeraJoe (My 401K is in precious metals. Lead, Brass, Titanium and Blued Steel.)
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To: Double Tap
Nobody with a brain trust Obama or the Dems.

On the contrary ...

Anybody with a brain knows absolutely that he can trust the 'Rats ...

...

...

to be 'Rats.

They're demagogues, gun-control freaks, abortionists, moral reprobates, communists, terrorist appeasers, racists, and generally enemies of these United States. They make no real effort to hide their proclivities, and they can be trusted to pursue their destructive agenda "by any means necessary".

29 posted on 11/19/2008 6:53:04 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ikka

The press so far has only reported on sales on September and October. They claim those numbers are only an 8% increase. They have yet to mention the flurry of sales in November since the election. Several gun stores whose owners I know have said their sales of specific types of weapons and ammo have more then 10 folded this month. One dealer I know usually sells 25 firearms a month. At each of two guns hows gun shows this month they sold 50+ firearms each day. One owner of one of largest gun stores probably in the sountry is processing NICS day and night trying to satisfy the demand. An ammo dealer who sells primarily wholesale for government contracts has turned to private sales. As he puts it, “Those sales now dwarf my federal contracts.” A large retail chain store manager bought 250 AR-15s in various configurations in anticipation of Obama winning the election. He sold all 250 in one week flat. He usually wouldn’t sell 250 in a year. I have had several freinds who have never owned a gun buy in the past two weeks. That actually took me by surprise.


30 posted on 11/19/2008 6:55:44 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: ikka
AIM surplus had their front counter closed until further notice due to stocking issues.

The following was posted on their website: AIM Surplus

11/18/2008 Memo to our Customers: As you know, we at AIM and others in the firearms industry are experiencing an extraordinarily high demand for the products we sell.

This extreme demand compares only to the spike experienced in 1993-1994 when the Brady Bill became law.

Although we will do all we can to insure the fulfillment of your order(s) in its entirety, we are experiencing product shortages that may result in backorders or delays of specific product from your order.

We ask for your patience as we work diligently to process orders, answer phone calls and respond to the thousands of emails requesting information about orders placed and product status.

Although some have responded to this spike by raising their prices immediately after the election. You have our promise that we will make every effort to maintain our advertised prices until our suppliers increase our costs.

In an effort to better control our remaining inventory, we are allowing only selected products to be purchased via our website.

Thank you again for your business and your patient understanding.

31 posted on 11/19/2008 7:11:24 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua
Arg...meant to add this graphic from AIM


32 posted on 11/19/2008 7:14:11 AM PST by Malsua
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To: CodeToad

This is a heck of a lot more than “anecdotal”; I was talking to managers in the gun sections of two huge sports chains and both said they had never seen anything like the level of firearms sales. One sold 68 AR-type rifles in one day...the manager at Sportsman’s Warehouse told me he was having a hard time refilling orders on handguns they were going so fast. He told me this while I was filling out the paper work on my new Sig 1911.


33 posted on 11/19/2008 7:19:05 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Cuttnhorse

By “anecdotal” I meant only that it is based on observations rather than a full-fledged statistical survey of a large number of gun shops. Wonder how Obama feels about this “vote of confidence” in his gun-grabbing agenda?


34 posted on 11/19/2008 7:22:37 AM PST by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: Bell407Pilot

Good advice to look at it as an investment. It is an investment in home safety, but also if there should be a general collapse (may Heaven forfend) then ammo will become a form of currency, something of value to trade.


35 posted on 11/19/2008 7:36:46 AM PST by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: ikka

Here’s a question, does anybody know what the laws are about buying in a neighboring state from where you live? For instance, living in California and trying to purchase a gun from a pawn shop in Vegas (since they have so many of them there)? Aside from waiting periods that might be in effect, what are some other restrictions/ramifications?


36 posted on 11/19/2008 7:52:29 AM PST by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: ikka
From ammoman.com:

"We are running 5 days behind on packing your orders and also running up to 5 days behind responding to your e-mails. We are working 7 days a week and up to 14 hours a day. The volume of orders and e-mails has been overwhelming. Our website will confirm your order and send you a tracking number unless you have a spam blocker that blocks us or the UPS e-mail with tracking information. Those e-mails come from two different e-mail servers. Also we have a few that don't enter the correct e-mail address. otherwise you will get two e-mails from us. one after you place the order and one when it ships from UPS. We cannot answer the phones at this time either. Just way too many calls."

37 posted on 11/19/2008 7:53:55 AM PST by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum)
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To: ikka

Usually, and ALL CAPS posting is indicative of a n00b. You should know better. tsk, tsk, tsk


38 posted on 11/19/2008 7:56:02 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: ikka
I can honestly say I'm surprised by the panic buying, but pleasantly so.

Now the question is, how many of those good citizens with their cases of ammo and shiny new rifles will meekly comply with the doubtlessly coming letters of confiscation?

How many will answer the letters with shot up range targets and letters of their own warning of the consequences of any further unConstitutional actions?

We'll just have to wait and see if there's still some bite in the old dog Liberty.

39 posted on 11/19/2008 8:05:36 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (There are 1522 days until marxist occupation ends. What are you doing to shorten the war?)
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To: ikka

Ammunition prices at my local Walmart have not increased over the past couple of weeks...at least not the rounds I purchase. Two and 3/4” 00 12 guage, .38, 9mm, 30 06, 22LR. All have remained the same and all but the shotgun shells, still around. But this I believe is where the first attack from the left will come. A nice 1000% tax increase on ammunition. Perhaps strict limits on quantity purchases and time between. The assault on guns thwmselves will be later. The public will have to be properly primed by the MSM.


40 posted on 11/19/2008 8:09:33 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: ikka
Spent eight hours over Saturday and Sunday at the Gunshow in Kingsport, TN (Tri-cities area of East TN). Sales of ammo were brisk, but rifle and shotgun weapons were about average! I purposely watched to see how M1 Carbines and AR style weapons went and it was slow for them, but there were only four or five M1 Carbines in evidence in the beginning and two still available at the end of the Show on Sunday. Bins of mags were moving slowly. Most buyers were cautious on plastic mags, looking for all metal high capacity versions for SKS, AR, and AKs.

Pistol sales were brisk, with carry style being more in demand than the large, weighty 1911 styles. I was attending to find a good lever action .357/.38 in Winchester or Marlin. Found two and one is at the gunsmith as of yesterday. I happen to have an antique 5 shot .38 Iver Johnson Owlhead which I wanted ammo for. Found one box left in that caliber (.38 SW). It fits my Webley, also.

The most interesting thing I overheard repeatedly during the roll through the booths was a desire to purchase 'black guns', weapons sold from individuals rather than having to register the purchases. Folks know instictively that there will be confiscations coming under the Marxist squirrel. And East Tennessee is solidly non-Democrat. Not many folks in this area are seeking to hoard ammo, with a few hundred rouns per gun seen as enough for personal needs. The booth arrangement was full for the show (four rows between booths and walls filled), but both days there were a lot of individual sales being done in the lobby and out in the parking lot. The general feel is that the folks need home defense weaponry but assault weaponry for a revolution isn't seen as practical since either the squirrel destroys social order with his stupid policies and elections tend to right the ship, or the dquirrel brings about the commie world where livin' in the hills by millions just won't be practical anymore.

Bottom line: most purchases seemed aimed at self-defense and home defense, not at building basics for militias.

41 posted on 11/19/2008 8:19:41 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
How many will answer the letters with shot up range targets and letters of their own warning of the consequences of any further unConstitutional actions?

We'll just have to wait and see if there's still some bite in the old dog Liberty.

"The Tree Of Liberty Must Be Refreshed From Time To Time With The Blood Of Patriots And Tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

42 posted on 11/19/2008 8:30:07 AM PST by DocH (Hussein Obama: Leader of an America-Hating Socialist /Black Nationalist Sleeper Cell)
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To: MHGinTN
"purposely watched to see how M1 Carbines and AR style..."

The price of AR type firearms went from a Summer low of $800+/- to $1400+ as of last weekend in Fort Worth.

43 posted on 11/19/2008 8:30:33 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: Deaf Smith

ARs were running around $1000, with several ‘conversion kits’ available for 1022s and SKSs to make them appear like ARs and M16. Auto loading shotguns sold well. I had several conversations over how to shorten barrels, legalities, etc. By Sunday eveneing I didn’t see a Remington 870 anywhere but in private hands. The reloader booth did an average business, and mostly ended up telling folks that they didn’t sell ‘ready to use’ ammo.


44 posted on 11/19/2008 8:38:37 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: east1234
You might be interested in this
45 posted on 11/19/2008 8:44:49 AM PST by An Old Man (Lead, Follow, or get the hell out of the way)
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To: MHGinTN
"I had several conversations over how to shorten barrels, legalities,"

You really shouldn't be talking to the undercover ATF agents.

46 posted on 11/19/2008 8:45:10 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: ChocChipCookie
How many guns would you say is needed?

Just one.

L

47 posted on 11/19/2008 8:47:28 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: cpdiii

Hmmm...so that extra 1000 primers and bottle of Unique doesn’t fit in at all?


48 posted on 11/19/2008 8:48:02 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Obama's Marxism--Chains you can believe in)
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To: ArrogantBustard
They make no real effort to hide their proclivities, and they can be trusted to pursue their destructive agenda "by any means necessary".

First gun control...then total control.

49 posted on 11/19/2008 8:52:35 AM PST by gundog (When the SHTF, it will not be evenly distributed.)
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To: ikka

I’m betting that in addition to bans and perhaps confiscation, the Obama regime will use the EPA to outlaw lead ammo and primers containing lead azide among other things. That would make it ILLEGAL to own or discharge ammo that you already bought. We can still reload with copper, brass, or tungsten bullets and non-lead primers.


50 posted on 11/19/2008 8:52:58 AM PST by darth
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