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Gun sales booming: Local rush to accumulate arms triggered by potential for limits
The Marietta Times / The Associated Press ^ | November 18, 2008 | Brad Bauer

Posted on 11/19/2008 12:02:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Until recently Justin Antill only owned a few guns that had been passed down to him from family members.

Fueled by fears that gun rights could be reduced when President-elect Barack Obama takes office, Antill and millions of other Americans are stocking up on firearms, ammunition and accessories.

Antill, 23, has purchased two guns within the past few weeks. He anticipates buying more.

"I hadn't planned on spending that kind of money, but I'm concerned I may not be able to buy what I want down the road," Antill said. "I think they're really going to crack down on guns and (high-capacity magazine) clips and make them harder to own."

Last month, as an Obama win looked increasingly inevitable, there were 108,000 more background checks for gun purchases than in October 2007, a 15 percent increase. Background checks for gun purchases are up about 8 percent for the year as of Oct. 26, the most recent data available, according to the FBI.

Obama has said he respects Americans' Second Amendment right to bear arms, but that he favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault and concealed weapons.

As a U.S. senator, Obama voted to leave gun-makers and dealers open to lawsuits; and as an Illinois state legislator, he supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on all firearms. While in the Senate, Vice President-elect Joe Biden has supported proposed bans against semi-automatic firearms, magazines that hold more than 10 rounds and additional waiting periods before guns can be purchased.

Despite the candidates' voting records, local residents Bill Hutchinson and Troy Farrell say they don't expect sweeping changes in gun laws. Both are gun owners and Obama supporters.

(Excerpt) Read more at mariettatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bho2008; election; elections; guns; gunsales; obama; presidentelectobama; rtkba; secondamendment
"Both are gun owners and Obama supporters." Someone please tell me what's wrong with that sentence...
1 posted on 11/19/2008 12:02:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Someone please tell me what's wrong with that sentence...

It's an oxymoron.
2 posted on 11/19/2008 12:05:20 AM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Petruchio; Squantos

I’ve applied for my FOID card here in Illinois. Long overdue but no time like the present!


3 posted on 11/19/2008 12:10:19 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Both are gun owners and Obama supporters

As much as I hate to say it, if the last part is true, the first part is kinda scary...

Stupid people and guns generally are not a good mix.

4 posted on 11/19/2008 12:11:35 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Where about in Illinois are you located?


5 posted on 11/19/2008 12:27:17 AM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Smokin' Joe

It’s not the mix you are thinking.

Obama supporters, yes, but individuals who realize, at some basic level, that there is a coming confrontation, between those who shall defend what they have, and those who will come rampaging through just taking from those who are defenseless.

In the minds of the Obama supporters who see this possibility, they incorrectly see themselves as being set upon by the “knuckle-dragging” NRA types. They do not realize that the real danger is going to be from the “National Security Defense Force”, the “civilian” army that Obama is going to unlease upon the American public, as kind of a national “police force”, and the REAL threat whom we shall have to be defending against.

Remember the seizure of guns that took place in New Orleans after the Katrina disaster? Extend this to the national scale, and that is what is coming. This “National Security Defense Force” will be going door to door to collect the guns and ammunition, and the Obama supporters will of course give theirs up readily to the “friendly” protectors of the “peace”.

Expect a lot of shoot-outs on the order of the Black Panthers, in Oakland in 1968, and in Philadelphia in 1970, when they had declared war on the local police. Only this time, the Black Panthers will be operating under cover of government “legality”.

It will look a lot like the regime of François Duvalier, who was the notorious ruler of Haiti throughout the 1960s. Duvalier was a physician (the source of his nickname, “Papa Doc”) who worked in the Haitian government beginning in the mid-1940s. With the army’s support, he was elected to the presidency in 1957. In 1964 he declared himself president for life and indeed, stayed president until his death in 1971, when his son, Jean-Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier, succeeded him. Papa Doc was an expert in voodoo who ruled Haiti with brute force and terror, with a ruthless security force, the Tontons Macoutes, acting as real-life bogeymen who routinely executed his opponents.


6 posted on 11/19/2008 12:52:50 AM PST by alloysteel (Molon labe! Roughly translated, "Come and take them!" referring to personal weapons.)
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Why do we accept limits on one of our Constitutional freedoms?

We wouldn’t accept being able to practice free speech one or two times per month. Do we have limits on how many times we don’t have to testify against ourselves?


7 posted on 11/19/2008 4:50:41 AM PST by NeoConfederate
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Similar articles are being presented in city after city. They all say the same thing - get 'em while they can be gotten.

Personally, I think the reason is deeper and involves what a socialist/communist totalitarian government might do after confiscation.

8 posted on 11/19/2008 4:55:12 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: alloysteel

“It will look a lot like the regime of François Duvalier, who was the notorious ruler of Haiti throughout the 1960s. Duvalier was a physician (the source of his nickname, “Papa Doc”) who worked in the Haitian government beginning in the mid-1940s. With the army’s support, he was elected to the presidency in 1957. In 1964 he declared himself president for life and indeed, stayed president until his death in 1971, when his son, Jean-Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier, succeeded him. Papa Doc was an expert in voodoo who ruled Haiti with brute force and terror, with a ruthless security force, the Tontons Macoutes, acting as real-life bogeymen who routinely executed his opponents.”

Hey! Thanks for this info...it slipped my mind! This will come in handy in a few months when I have to teach about Black History Month.


9 posted on 11/19/2008 5:02:55 AM PST by NeoConfederate
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Good deal H !!....large numbers of any group be it sea shell collectors or dog catchers gets the attention of polidiots pandering for votes.

You just added one more number to the offical 2nd amendment supporters count IMO !

Stay safe and Keep the Faith !!!


10 posted on 11/19/2008 5:03:04 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: randomhero97

It’s an oxymoron.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I suppose you are being sarcastic but it is not actually an oxymoron, it is only an indication that at least two idiots are identified by name in this article.


11 posted on 11/19/2008 5:03:14 AM PST by RipSawyer (Great Grandpa was a Confederate soldier from the cradle of secession.)
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To: randomhero97
It's an oxymoron.

Well, you're half right. I'm not sure about the "oxy" part though.

12 posted on 11/19/2008 5:08:14 AM PST by Obadiah (NOMR! - Not One More RINO!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Despite the candidates' voting records, local residents Bill Hutchinson and Troy Farrell say they don't expect sweeping changes in gun laws. Both are gun owners and Obama supporters.

Georgia has at least two morons.

13 posted on 11/19/2008 5:08:21 AM PST by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: meyer
I think Glenn Beck said it best when he reminded us that the 2nd Amendment ain't there for hunters.

Funny how the government is going to take care of all us and people are buying guns to protect themselves from whom?

Why are we feeling so ominously unprotected?
(It's rhetorical question)

14 posted on 11/19/2008 5:08:24 AM PST by EBH (Directives NSPD-51, HSPD-20, and Directive 10-289)
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To: alloysteel
They do not realize that the real danger is going to be from the “National Security Defense Force”, the “civilian” army that Obama is going to unlease upon the American public, as kind of a national “police force”, and the REAL threat whom we shall have to be defending against.

That is what I percieve to be the real threat as well.

Pity these people aren't that smart. Perhaps they do not remember Ruby Ridge, Waco, Gordon Kahl, or numerous others who have been beset by Federal Agents, ostensibly with "good cause".

PapaDoc and BabyDoc were two 'little Hitlers' in recent history, but keep in mind also that Obamites had Che on the office wall. He was no saint, either, only the NYT and the State Department managed to think he and Castro were going to have a Democratic Government.

We 'hillbillies' out here in 'flyover country' are not the threat to gunowners who are not for our disarmament, but any fool who could support DUH1 and think HE is not the threat to our RKBA not only has another think coming, but really ought to be carefully watched around a firearm.

They aren't nearly as bright as the dumbest kid I have seen squirrel hunting, and they are likely to hurt someone.

This “National Security Defense Force” will be going door to door to collect the guns and ammunition, and the Obama supporters will of course give theirs up readily to the “friendly” protectors of the “peace”.

Well, that will make for more 'pick-up' pieces when the 'job openings' appear.

Actually, I expect they will pick out a few folks to 'make examples of', and try to cow the rest of us into submission. Then the brutality will become apparent, and people will know, (as many as can be told), who the real threat is, especially if no one comes to the aid of those who are attacked early on.

15 posted on 11/19/2008 5:09:29 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

—bflr—


16 posted on 11/19/2008 6:16:31 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: alloysteel

“Remember the seizure of guns that took place in New Orleans after the Katrina disaster? Extend this to the national scale, and that is what is coming.”

Yep, and Jindal pushed through a new law in 2006 to prevent such seizures, but that doesn’t mean the govt won’t simply try to outlaw guns or ammo in general. It was really galling because all of those cops that were seizing guns after Katrina had sworn an oath to uphold the US Constitution, but I doubt that most even know what it says.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,205557,00.html


17 posted on 11/19/2008 6:19:50 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see where used prices online have changed much.


18 posted on 11/19/2008 6:33:44 AM PST by fso301
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To: sausageseller
Georgia has at least two morons.

It has their king as well ...


19 posted on 11/19/2008 6:43:16 AM PST by tx_eggman ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule" - Mencken)
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To: tx_eggman

LOL!


20 posted on 11/19/2008 6:49:25 AM PST by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: NeoConfederate

“Why do we accept limits...?” As a matter of fact, we don’t. But unfortunately, our RINO, limp-wristed or leftist government/elected officials do accept them on a daily basis. That is, when they are not simply imposing them. Imagine half a million NJ residents, well armed, traveling to the capitol and “inviting” the governor and state legislators to rewrite the gun laws on the spot. Anyone refusing would of course be removed from public office. (No, not in the Godfather sense!) And while they are at it, future voting will be done by fingerprint recognition only. Another very good new bit of legislation. Might as well get a few important things done. That is what it will eventually take to retrieve our lost rights and liberties while protecting the rest. Imagine the howl from the MSM! How delicious it would be. But I would bet that 70% or more of the American peole would support the actions of these new found patriots.


21 posted on 11/19/2008 7:44:08 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That’s the way I took it. Should be a question on an intelligence test or something.

“Do you support Obama and believe that he will protect the Second Amendment?”

Yes: (You are a moron and danger to your country. Take the firearm you profess to possess and take yourself out immediately.)

No: (You are a patriot and as such a danger to the president elect and the anti-Constitutionalist democratics. Prepare to defend the Constitution and the U.S.)


22 posted on 11/19/2008 8:10:27 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That’s the way I took it. Should be a question on an intelligence test or something.

“Do you support Obama and believe that he will protect the Second Amendment?”

Yes: (You are a moron and danger to your country. Take the firearm you profess to possess and take yourself out immediately.)

No: (You are a patriot and as such a danger to the president elect and the anti-Constitutionalist democratics. Prepare to defend the Constitution and the U.S.)


23 posted on 11/19/2008 8:11:04 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I don't believe there will ever be a law to do away with guns," said Hutchinson, 49, of Marietta. "You may see some laws that require registration for some guns, but I don't personally own or use that type of gun."

Same attitude they had in England. I'm a hunter, I don't use handguns. What do I care if they ban handguns...
24 posted on 11/19/2008 8:11:40 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden (I)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Buying up guns is important, don’t get me wrong. However, I’ll be interested to know what the membership roles of the NRA look like by January 20th. It’s very important for them to say we have X million of people in our organization who all vote and will get pissed if you pass laws to ban guns. People will spend thousands of dollars on new guns and ammo before January 20th. Please spend $35 on a yearly NRA membership. It might go a lot farther in protecting our 2nd amendment rights.


25 posted on 11/19/2008 8:14:38 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden (I)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Be prepared for an 8 to 10 week wait.

My FOID renewal took 7 weeks. New apps are taking even longer.

L

26 posted on 11/19/2008 8:15:18 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: alloysteel

The Civilian Defense Force will be the enforcement arm of redistribution. It will be used to confiscate what the “hoarders” are not “sharing”.


27 posted on 11/19/2008 8:17:07 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: alloysteel
Obama supporters, yes, but individuals who realize, at some basic level, that there is a coming confrontation, between those who shall defend what they have, and those who will come rampaging through just taking from those who are defenseless.

I had a nice conversation with a guy that left LA right after the Rodney King riots. He said it really hit home when he went to the supermarket and there was NOTHING to buy. Moved his family to this sleepy little Oregon backwater. His sister lives in Portland. She said that there have been home invasion robberies in upscale neighborhoods. The target: food.

28 posted on 11/19/2008 9:03:53 AM PST by gundog (When the SHTF, it will not be evenly distributed.)
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To: gundog

“...said that there have been home invasion robberies in upscale neighborhoods. The target: food.”

Recently, or during the LA riots?


29 posted on 11/19/2008 9:37:53 AM PST by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: woollyone

Recently. I’ve never talked to the guy as extensively as I did yesterday. He’s preparing for a very bad scenario. Better safe than sorry.


30 posted on 11/19/2008 9:49:28 AM PST by gundog (When the SHTF, it will not be evenly distributed.)
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To: randomhero97
It's an oxymoron.

Actually it's a contradiction. An oxymoron is a term, usually consisting of two nouns that are the exact opposite of one to describe something.

Examples: old news, jumbo shrimp, military intelligence, thorough briefing, academic freedom, liberal tolerance.

These two guys' positions as gun owning 0bama supporters definitely identifies them as morons but there's nothing "oxy" about them.

31 posted on 11/19/2008 11:28:04 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

one another...


32 posted on 11/19/2008 11:29:07 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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Might just have to make this my new tag line...

“When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe.”
Luke 11:21

33 posted on 11/19/2008 12:49:46 PM PST by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Yeah, I thought about it later and realized I misused the term.


34 posted on 11/19/2008 3:20:51 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Both are gun owners and Obama supporters." Someone please tell me what's wrong with that sentence...

They want him to pay for their ammo.

35 posted on 11/19/2008 7:16:16 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there are all these gun purchases, what does the supply look like? If we invest in gun manufacturer stocks, what kind of increase might they see when the next quarterly earnings are announced?


36 posted on 11/19/2008 7:21:30 PM PST by Styria
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When the Republicans in Congress see any Gun Control bill coming down the pike, they should submit their own first draft saying Registered Democrats should be the forbidden to own a gun.

Register Democrats, not Guns... The new battle cry.


37 posted on 11/19/2008 7:22:20 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I haven’t gone on a gun-buying spree, but I do think I’ll be getting some accessories for my shotgun so it can handle different loads.

Can a shotgun with an Accu-Choke tube already fire slugs or does it need modifications?


38 posted on 11/19/2008 9:51:23 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("Let 'em learn the hard way, 'cause teaching them is more trouble than they're worth,")
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