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Ramos, Compean Commutation under Review by U.S. Pardon Attorney
CNSNews ^ | November 19, 2008 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 11/19/2008 8:57:24 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

(CNSNews.com) – In the waning days of the Bush administration, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is mulling whether to recommend a commutation for the two former Border Patrol agents jailed for more than a decade each for shooting a Mexican drug smuggler in the buttocks.

The case is now before the DOJ’s Pardon Attorney Donald Rodgers. The Office of Pardon Attorney works in consultation with the attorney general’s office to assist the president, who has sole power of clemency in federal cases under the Constitution.

Ultimately, it is the president’s call regardless of what the Office of Pardon Attorney recommends.

Last week, a federal judge in Texas left intact the 11-year sentence for Ignacio Ramos and 12-year sentence for Jose Compean in the shooting case of Mexican drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, who was later convicted on a separate drug smuggling crime.

The two former Border Patrol agents were convicted in early March 2006 for the discharge of a firearm in the commission of a violent crime, violation of civil rights, assault charges, and on charges of tampering with evidence.

The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals last summer reversed the convictions for evidence tampering, but that did not affect the sentence, because the offense of discharging a weapon during a crime carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years. The two agents began serving their sentences in January 2007.

Both the House and Senate have held hearings investigating the prosecution of the agents, and numerous members of Congress have called on President George W. Bush to either pardon the two men or commute their sentences. Given the time served, attorneys are requesting commutation.

“I’m asking for a commutation, because he has already served the sentence on all counts of conviction except for the gun count,” Ramos’s attorney David Botsford told CNSNews.com.

Botsford refuted media reports that the commutation requests were denied.

“They suspended the processing of the commutation petition because of the re-sentencing,” he said. “I don’t think that was necessarily appropriate, but I notified them (the Office of Pardon Attorney) as soon as the re-sentencing was over, asking them to reinstate the commutation process. It’s my understanding they’re going to do that.”

Tara Setmayer, spokesman for Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.), one of the most outspoken advocates for freeing the agents, also confirmed Tuesday that the Office of Pardon Attorney was reviewing the case.

Botsford said he does not know how long the process will take, or even if it will be decided while Bush is still president.

“It should be pretty simple,” Botsford said. “I don’t have the faintest idea how long it’s going to take for them to process.”

A Justice Department spokesperson did not respond to an inquiry from CNSNews.com as this story went to press Tuesday evening.

Meanwhile, the White House declined to comment on the matter.

“We never comment on pardons or people who are eligible to apply for a pardon,” White House Press Secretary Dana Perino told CNSNews.com during the White House press briefing. “That goes to the Office of Pardon Attorney at the Department of Justice, and we don’t comment on those deliberations.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas
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1 posted on 11/19/2008 8:57:24 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Praise God: I pray for Pres. Bush to come through for these two men, wrongly accused and punished.


2 posted on 11/19/2008 9:01:24 PM PST by rose
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To: Mr. Mojo

Now there’s some hope and change I’m praying for. Time to do the right thing Mr. President.


3 posted on 11/19/2008 9:04:15 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: Mr. Mojo; freema; RedRover; smoothsailing; Ernest_at_the_Beach; jazusamo
Great news. Perhaps the letters some of us had sent to the WH had some positive effect. Obvious to us all these two guys should be given a full pardon.
I have yet to reconstruct ping lists on various subject matters, so please feel free to ping the usual.
4 posted on 11/19/2008 9:09:00 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice.)
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To: rose

Bush has nothing to lose anymore. He should free these American heroes as one of his last acts.


5 posted on 11/19/2008 9:14:45 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: Mr. Mojo

What is there to mull over? If Bush does not Pardon these guys I will be forever ashamed I ever voted for him.


6 posted on 11/19/2008 9:14:49 PM PST by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Marine_Uncle

fantastic news!! full pardon all the way is right. not obvious to us all tho, there are some FReepers who believe VERY strongly that these two men belong in prison.


7 posted on 11/19/2008 9:16:47 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Wisconsinlady
Bush has nothing to lose anymore. He should free these American heroes as one of his last acts.

Yes he should. He would not only lose nothing, but could restore some goodwill in the process. He certainly has lost enough of it within his own party.

8 posted on 11/19/2008 9:20:58 PM PST by freespirited (Honk to indict the MSM for treason.)
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To: bobby.223

Let their views be respected as we hope the POTUS has the common sense and decency to fully pardon them.


9 posted on 11/19/2008 9:25:08 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
To me, commutation is not enough. They should be pardoned and they should receive an apology. It is because of them that I have rejected the invitation, offered by several, to rejoin the reserves in my Sheriff's office.

I had to pay my own medical expenses arising from duty related injuries. If doing my duty could lead to disgrace and jail time, I will not serve as an LEO for the US.

They may not have been perfect in the execution of their responsibilities. Perfection is too high a standard for deadly force encounters with drug runners. This conviction is a disgrace and an insult to every person who puts his butt on the line for this country.

10 posted on 11/19/2008 9:32:09 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

If he doesn’t do this...then he can go to hell as far as I’m concerned. I’m so sick of Bush.


11 posted on 11/19/2008 9:37:17 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Marine_Uncle
Thanks for the ping to this, Uncle.

W needs to step up bigtime and make it clear to all that these guys are more important and worthy than anyone who would test American diligence.

12 posted on 11/19/2008 9:47:13 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Marine_Uncle

Thanks for the ping,..my Rep Rohrbacher is in the thick of this....damn good man!


13 posted on 11/19/2008 9:52:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Mr. Mojo; PhilDragoo; devolve; potlatch; y'all

Hey!

Maybe our letters are working !?!?!

Could be ...


14 posted on 11/20/2008 12:18:28 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Ajnin; abner; AndrewC; Arizona Carolyn; Brad's Gramma; Brytani; calex59; Calpernia; ...

PING!

RAMOS/COMPEAN Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on or off this list.


15 posted on 11/20/2008 12:45:02 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Wisconsinlady

“Bush has nothing to lose anymore.”

I disagree. He’s thinking about his standing among the global elites. That’s more important to him than any BP agent.


17 posted on 11/20/2008 2:53:12 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: calcowgirl
I pray that President Bush will see the light and release these two men.

I totally agree with those upthread that said a full pardon is in order. Discharging a weapon while committing a crime is a Bull crap charge!

Bush should pardon them and give them back pay!

18 posted on 11/20/2008 6:23:59 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin protector)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


19 posted on 11/20/2008 6:31:23 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Mr. Mojo

I am praying for them.


20 posted on 11/20/2008 6:39:42 AM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Mr. Mojo

A good friend of mine who is very wealth and has a husband in the oil business attends a gathering of about 30 people in Texas every year put on by Bush (seniors). She is very much on our side and I asked her if she would be so bold and tell George Bush (Senior) “ MANY people are praying that your son will pardon agents ramos and Compeon”

Could’nt hurt She told me she definately will.


21 posted on 11/20/2008 6:51:51 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: MeekOneGOP; Mr. Mojo; smoothsailing; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; potlatch; ...

WHITE HOUSE COMMENT LINE
202-456-1111

22 posted on 11/20/2008 8:57:14 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Marine_Uncle; PhilDragoo

Thanks for the pings. Maybe the contacts have helped, the time for the president to act is overdue.


23 posted on 11/20/2008 9:07:06 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Marine_Uncle; smoothsailing; Ernest_at_the_Beach; jazusamo; Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; ...

This is great, but Wuterich being held hostage is not.


24 posted on 11/20/2008 9:50:51 AM PST by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: freema

How about Hutchins??


25 posted on 11/20/2008 10:05:39 AM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Jail Sutton and Aldrete-Davila

I'm likin' it!

26 posted on 11/20/2008 12:30:56 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve

The President’s getting a lot more pressure now, hopefully it will happen!


27 posted on 11/20/2008 2:38:51 PM PST by potlatch
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To: RaceBannon

You’re right. I wasn’t thinking in those terms because Hutchins knows where he stands and how much this country values his service. I was thinking that Wuterich may not even go to trial before the current CIC could do a damn thing.


28 posted on 11/20/2008 4:59:36 PM PST by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: RaceBannon

You’re right. I wasn’t thinking in those terms because Hutchins knows where he stands and how much this country values his service. SHOULDA PUT A F’N SARC TAG HERE. I was thinking that Wuterich may not even go to trial before the current CIC could do a damn thing.


29 posted on 11/20/2008 5:00:16 PM PST by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: Mr. Mojo

bttt


30 posted on 11/20/2008 7:53:40 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: Marine_Uncle

“Perhaps the letters some of us had sent to the WH had some positive effect.”

I think they have. Let’s keep it up.


31 posted on 11/21/2008 8:00:59 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Roger that. It is late. I have to hit the sack. Do have a great upcoming day.


32 posted on 11/21/2008 11:25:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice.)
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To: Hildy

**If he doesn’t do this...then he can go to hell as far as I’m concerned. I’m so sick of Bush.**

I agree wholeheartedly! These guys were railroaded into prison and none of the messages to the WH to release them made any difference. I hope Bush does the right thing and pardons them soon.


33 posted on 11/22/2008 3:52:39 PM PST by Jennikins (It matters not what we want, as we are being ruled, not governed.)
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