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GMAC Applies For Bank-Holding Status [to get bailout money]
CNN/Money ^ | November 20, 2008

Posted on 11/20/2008 6:22:12 AM PST by Zakeet

The cash-strapped financier, 49%-owned by General Motors Corp. (GM), also announced offers to exchange $38 billion in notes from GMAC and its Residential Capital home-lending business for new securities with the same maturity dates and interest rates. The move would cost GMAC up to $2.5 billion in cash, it said.

As a bank-holding company, GMAC said it would obtain "increased flexibility and stability to fulfill its core mission of providing automotive and mortgage financing to consumers and businesses." New avenues of potential funding include the Fed's discount window, where banks can get inexpensive, short-term emergency loans.

Two weeks ago, in a stark acknowledgment of the deteriorating health of mortgage business Residential Capital, GMAC said ResCap has had difficulty maintaining adequate capital and liquidity levels and raised doubts about ResCap's ability to remain viable.

A consortium led by private-equity firm Cerberus Capital Management LP, parent of Chrysler LLC, bought 51% of GMAC in 2006 for about $14 billion.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; economy; gm; gmac

1 posted on 11/20/2008 6:22:13 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Interesting. I recently refinanced through Quicken Loans and GMAC bought my mortgage from them. Now they’re crying that they need money? And yes, I do pay all my bills on time.


2 posted on 11/20/2008 6:25:38 AM PST by gieriscm (07 FFL / 02 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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To: Zakeet

Can’t wait to get my electric VW. When gas is .98 cents a gallon. What a bunch of retards.


3 posted on 11/20/2008 6:27:04 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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4 posted on 11/20/2008 6:28:18 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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To: Zakeet
Spokesperson for GMAC quoted as saying..."It nevah hertz tah aahsk."
5 posted on 11/20/2008 6:28:47 AM PST by NordP (PALIN POWER: She's Reagan in heels, Teddy Roosevelt in a dress & like Rummy at a press conference!)
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6 posted on 11/20/2008 6:29:00 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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To: Zakeet

I’m holding some GMAC bonds that don’t mature until 2017. Any idea what this all means to current bond holders?


7 posted on 11/20/2008 6:29:11 AM PST by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: screaminsunshine
Can’t wait to get my electric VW. When gas is .98 cents a gallon. What a bunch of retards.

This morning, Regular Unleaded is 1.69 / gal. here. You think it will go below a penny a gallon huh? ;-)

(I'm guessing you meant 98 cents or $0.98 per gallon)

8 posted on 11/20/2008 6:30:46 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: Zakeet

I hear GMAC advertising locally and I thought they were paying 12% on deposits. Could that be right? Our Church had a bundle in GMAC and I convinced the Council to pull most of the money out last year and do a addition to the Fellowship Hall. With a large donation from a widow we were able to pay cash...


9 posted on 11/20/2008 6:31:49 AM PST by tubebender (Retirement...The art and science of Killing time before it Kills you...)
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To: TChris
(I'm guessing you meant 98 cents or $0.98 per gallon) I'm sure he meant $0.97.9...
10 posted on 11/20/2008 6:34:51 AM PST by tubebender (Retirement...The art and science of Killing time before it Kills you...)
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To: TChris

The morons want us to get windmill autos when the gas price is through the floor. They are insane.


11 posted on 11/20/2008 6:36:12 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: Zakeet

GMAC has been in the household loan business for a long time.

We have refied our home with DiTech twice, and they were great people to deal with.

Several of our younger relatives have used DiTech with excellent results.

I wouldn’t own a GMC vehicle, but being a long time customer with DiTech has been good for us, our relatives and friends.


12 posted on 11/20/2008 6:49:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Buy what we need before Zer0 is sworn in. He and Pelosi will not have our buying $'s in 2009!)
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To: tubebender

Funny.


13 posted on 11/20/2008 6:57:15 AM PST by cornelis
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To: Damifino
I’m holding some GMAC bonds that don’t mature until 2017. Any idea what this all means to current bond holders?

Detroit-based General Motors, its financing arm GMAC LLC, and GMAC's mortgage unit Residential Capital LLC are three of the four worst performers this month of the 50 biggest issuers in the high-yield market, according to Merrill. GM has lost 29.5 percent, GMAC is down 23 percent and ResCap securities have tumbled 45 percent on average, Merrill data show. GM's $3 billion of 8.375 percent bonds due in 2033 fell 0.25 cent to 18.75 cents on the dollar at 11:51 a.m. in New York, according to Trace, the bond-price reporting system of the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority. The debt yields 44.5 percent, or 40 percentage points more than similar-maturity Treasuries, Trace data show.

14 posted on 11/20/2008 6:58:07 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Zakeet

We have our mortgage through GMAC and I remember one of their selling points was that they don’t sell off their mortgages to other companies as much as other lenders. I guess we’ll see!


15 posted on 11/20/2008 7:00:10 AM PST by GnL
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To: Damifino

On the face of it, it sounds bullish for bonds. I hold some 2018 bonds that my broker shows a value of under 20 cents on the dollar. I don’t know if that means I could buy them anywhere near that price but that is probably all I would get selling them.


16 posted on 11/20/2008 7:34:14 AM PST by freedomrings69
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To: freedomrings69
They are still paying their interest and (for now) will hold maturity value at term so I’ll hang on to them untill something changes. (WOW - Spellcheck here is totally hosed up right now!)
17 posted on 11/20/2008 7:55:24 AM PST by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: Zakeet

Lowest gas is $1.68 in MO, today.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/

I know GM, etc., tanking is going to hurt our economy, but I’m SO ready to burn various “institutions” to the ground and start over again.

What’s the reason the Big Three can’t just file Chapter 11 or 13, reorganize, downsize, streamline, tell Congress to f-off and start all over again? (I read the reason somewhere, but can’t remember why?)

A friend of mine has a GM car and got an e-mail yesterday telling her that they’re just looking for a “loan” from Congress (IOW: YOUR TAX DOLLARS!) not a “bailout.”

How stupid do they think we are? Pretty stupid, I guess, LOL!


18 posted on 11/20/2008 8:49:58 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ('Taking the moderate path of appeasement leads to abysmal defeat.' - Rush on 11/05/08)
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To: Damifino

Obviously th market is betting on bankruptcy.


19 posted on 11/20/2008 1:45:29 PM PST by freedomrings69
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
What’s the reason the Big Three can’t just file Chapter 11 or 13,

Part 2 of that question is really easy. They don't qualify for Chapter 13 - for multiple reasons.

The qualifications for a Chapter 13 debtor are in Chapter 1, not Chapter 13 of the bankruptcy code (109(e))

"Only an individual with regular income that owes, on the date of the filing of the petition, noncontingent, liquidated, unsecured debts of less than $250,000 and noncontingent, liquidated, secured debts of less than $750,000, or an individual with regular income and such individual’s spouse, except a stockbroker or a commodity broker, that owe, on the date of the filing of the petition, noncontingent, liquidated, unsecured debts that aggregate less than $250,000 and noncontingent, liquidated, secured debts of less than $750,000 may be a debtor under chapter 13 of this title."

20 posted on 11/20/2008 6:34:52 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Thank you! :)


21 posted on 11/20/2008 6:39:10 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ('Taking the moderate path of appeasement leads to abysmal defeat.' - Rush on 11/05/08)
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