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Supremes to review citizenship arguments-Case challenging candidacy set for 'conference' of justices
World Net Daily ^ | 11-21-08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/20/2008 11:46:54 PM PST by STARWISE

A case that challenges President-elect Barack Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot citing questions over his citizenship has been scheduled for a "conference" at the U.S. Supreme Court.

Conferences are private meetings of the justices at which they review cases and decide which ones to accept for formal review.

This case is set for a conference Dec. 5, just 10 days before the Electoral College is scheduled to meet to make formal the election of Obama as the nation's next president.

The Supreme Court's website listed the date for the case brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the secretary of state in New Jersey, over not only Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot but those of two others, Sen. John McCain and Roger Calero.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; calero; certifigate; justicethomas; leodonofrio; madeinkenya; mccain; notthisshiitagain; obama; obamatruthfile; obamatruthsquad; scotus; thekenyan
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1 posted on 11/20/2008 11:46:55 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

A small infraction. Let’s MOVE ON!(/Soros Sick off)


2 posted on 11/20/2008 11:50:10 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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3 posted on 11/20/2008 11:51:59 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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Docket for 08A407
No. 08A407 Title: Leo C. Donofrio, Applicant v. Nina Mitchell Wells, New Jersey Secretary of State Docketed: Lower Ct: Supreme Court of New Jersey Case Nos.: (AM-0153-08T2 at the New Jersey Appellate Division without a docket number) ~~~Date~~~
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4 posted on 11/20/2008 11:55:48 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

bump


5 posted on 11/21/2008 12:09:29 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: STARWISE

The case also raises the circumstances of Obama’s time during his youth in Indonesia, where he was listed as having Indonesian citizenship. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, raising the possibility of Obama’s mother having given up his U.S. citizenship.

Any subsequent U.S. citizenship then, the case claims, would be “naturalized,” not “natural-born.”

That’s assuming he went through the naturalization process. If not he is still a citizen of Indonesia.

so case (a) he’s British or Kenyan, case (b) he’s Indonesian, and case (c) there is a real full birth certificate in Hawaii stating he was born in Hawaii.

if (c) why not just release it and put an end to the rumors? that is what i don’t understand — i was a doubter until we got to the election with no release of info. i thought he was just hanging on til the last minute to make the questioners look stupid. now i’m curious too.


6 posted on 11/21/2008 12:11:54 AM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: STARWISE; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...

Ping.


7 posted on 11/21/2008 12:25:38 AM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: kpp_kpp

Whatever happened to the Hawaii Governor saying that they have posession of it?


8 posted on 11/21/2008 12:50:53 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: kpp_kpp

why not just release it and put an end to the rumors? that is what i don’t understand — i was a doubter until we got to the election with no release of info. i thought he was just hanging on til the last minute to make the questioners look stupid. now i’m curious too.
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I’m pretty much where you are kpp_kpp. Just release it if you have it! If it were me and I’d just been elected and had this huge, very ambitious plan to “change” the U.S. I wouldn’t want anything to detract from that & I’d just release the thing.

That said I can only believe it’s his arrogance that’s causing his original birth certificate to be withheld. I think 0bama thinks he doesn’t have to answer to anyone. He thinks he’s better than everyone else and I believe, due to the lack of vetting and the fawning admiration of the 0bamamedia, he thinks he can get away with doing whatever he wants and ignoring what he doesn’t think is important.

JMHO, but it’s just one more example of how he doesn’t have to follow the same rules as everyone else.


9 posted on 11/21/2008 1:09:51 AM PST by leapfrog0202
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To: RandallFlagg
“Whatever happened to the Hawaii Governor saying that they have posession of it?”

I believe it was not the Governor, but the head of the bureaucracy that maintains the records, and he said that they had a copy of the birth certificate, but not that it showed that he was born in Hawaii or why it was sealed from pubic eyes.
10 posted on 11/21/2008 2:11:09 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Remember, it’s not just the original BC we’re after.
We want full disclosur.
The chink in the armor has been breached.

Lets get the rest out too!!!!!


11 posted on 11/21/2008 2:16:57 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: RandallFlagg
The Hawaiian Government may have a copy of his short form (a legal affidavit was said to be sent to the Hawaiian government by his mother after the birth of Obama in Kenya), but if there is a long form showing Obama was born in the USA (Hawaii) at the time then why the big mystery?

Release the document and prove he is a citizen and let's go after his Ideologies. If he is not a citizen, and his staff and most of the Dems knew he was not a citizen, then the Democrats are guilty of a “Coup d'etat”.... if Obama is not an American Born Citizen..then we have a Constitutional Crisis on our hands.

If this comes down to this man not being a natural born citizen, this is serious business folks. Most of all, why did the Democrat Party file a counter claim that Berg did not have standing? Why not show the LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE to clarify any problems? Why continue to hide the BIRTH CERTIFICATE? Exactly what is the problem?

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

12 posted on 11/21/2008 2:30:09 AM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: STARWISE

bttt...


13 posted on 11/21/2008 2:50:17 AM PST by Godebert
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To: STARWISE
Does anyone here truly think the USSC is going to take up this case?

Are you folks that delusional? All the Supremes are going to do is find a way to quietly dismiss this case and move one.

Could you imagine what would happen if this was actually taken up as a case and if they HAD to rule against obama. The moonbats would go ballistic ... and the Supremes don't want that to happen.

14 posted on 11/21/2008 3:01:31 AM PST by CapnJack
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To: CapnJack
Does anyone here truly think the USSC is going to take up this case?

It's going to conference, so I'd say there is a good chance of it being taken up sionce there is a serious constitutional question involved. Even if it doesn't go forward, expect at least three justices to issue opinions addressing why it should be heard. Those will get widespread notice.

If it is heard, expect a 9-0 decision against Obama if he cannot establish that he is a natural born citizen. The constitution is very clear.

15 posted on 11/21/2008 3:13:35 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: CapnJack

“The moonbats would go ballistic ... and the Supremes don’t want that to happen.”

How do you know this?


16 posted on 11/21/2008 3:20:17 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Palin alone accomplished the ultimate political success--beating the corrupt status quo)
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To: SeaHawkFan
If it is heard, expect a 9-0 5-4 decision against in favor of Obama if he cannot establish that he is a natural born citizen. The constitution is very clear.

There, fixed your statement.

17 posted on 11/21/2008 3:23:03 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: SeaHawkFan
It's going to conference, so I'd say there is a good chance of it being taken up sionce there is a serious constitutional question involved... If it is heard, expect a 9-0 decision against Obama if he cannot establish that he is a natural born citizen. The constitution is very clear.

What if they won't take it up, because the Constitution is clear and there is no "constitutional question?" And if he can't prove he's natural born, maybe they don't want to put their power to the test. If they say he may not be POTUS, how are they going to enforce their ruling? And if they can't, do they want THAT precedent?

18 posted on 11/21/2008 3:39:52 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Stop feeding Leftist education systems. Don't let your kids go there.)
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To: STARWISE

I just got a letter from the Maine dmv yesterday. In order to renew my drivers license I MUST show a birth certificate or I will be denied. This is a new law to stop illegals from getting licenses. Shame the nation doesn’t have a similar rule for elections.


19 posted on 11/21/2008 3:49:43 AM PST by mirkwood (There is no Gorebull warming in Maine)
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To: SeaHawkFan

The Supreme Court (probably any court) has the right to ask the FBI/CIA etc. for any information relevant information they may have. With his associations, he is just the sort of person who would be on their radar.


20 posted on 11/21/2008 3:53:25 AM PST by Nipfan
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To: STARWISE
Including Roger Calero in this case makes a lot of sense. How the heck did the Secretary of State allow a foreign born candidate on the ballot? His ineligibility as a presidential candidate is not in question. he also appeared on several other state ballots.

Hola NJ! Have You Ever Met Presidential Candidate Roger Calero? . Calero is an admitted foreign born Nicaraguan, and is the Socialist Workers Party candidate for president. The SoS didn't care that an admittedly unqualified candidate was placed on the ballot. It calls into question the whole process of placing qualified presidential candiates on ballots.
21 posted on 11/21/2008 3:56:46 AM PST by Girlene (Wolverines!!!!!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

“What if they won’t take it up, because the Constitution is clear and there is no “constitutional question?” And if he can’t prove he’s natural born, maybe they don’t want to put their power to the test. If they say he may not be POTUS, how are they going to enforce their ruling? And if they can’t, do they want THAT precedent?”

The Constitution is clear that the president must be a natural born American. All they need do is ask to see his full birth certificate. Surely that’s not asking too much? If it says he was born in Kenya then its clear as crystal that he’s NOT natural born.


22 posted on 11/21/2008 3:58:12 AM PST by Nipfan
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To: Nipfan

The fact that this matter is going to “conference” dooms it.


23 posted on 11/21/2008 4:01:31 AM PST by Cedric
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To: Nipfan

All of this is the fault of the barry-backside kissing MSM.

If they had done their jobs (instead of trying to find dirt on Palin) we never would have been in this mess.


24 posted on 11/21/2008 4:16:49 AM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: Nipfan
The Supreme Court (probably any court) has the right to ask the FBI/CIA etc. for any information relevant information they may have. With his associations, he is just the sort of person who would be on their radar.

They're NOT ideologically neutral. They're over run with liberals, too. Even if ordered, they'll figure out a way to redact the evidence, or release it in a way that is mis-leading or inconclusive.

Even if Jesus returned with THE original copy of the COLB proving that he was born in Kenya, 0bama is going to be our next President. Don't believe that he won't.

25 posted on 11/21/2008 4:20:06 AM PST by Hardastarboard (America is so "twenty minutes ago")
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To: CapnJack

All the SCOTUS has to do is rule that all the candidates produce their vault Birth record. If it proves that Obama is a citizen then that is that. If it proves he is not a citizen then a crime against the USA will have been commited ... and it will be Obamas fault not the SCOTUS.


26 posted on 11/21/2008 4:22:36 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Nipfan

Well, obviously for 0bama it’s a lot better to say there IS no original bc to be found (the dog ate it), than to hand in one that says he’s Kenyan-born.
I’m saying SCOTUS does not want to be in the position to say he can’t be POTUS. And there are plenty of ways for them to wiggle out.
They do not want to issue a ruling that effectively throws out a decisive popular vote, and brings wrath, challenges, and questions of relevance, scope of powers, and legitimacy on them.
And while that sounds crazy to us, it wouldn’t be to millions of moonbats.


27 posted on 11/21/2008 4:26:02 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Stop feeding Leftist education systems. Don't let your kids go there.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

“The dog age it” is not much of an excuse when, in most states, you can get a certified copy for around $10. And, apparently, he has already spent something like $800,000 to avoid having to produce it.


28 posted on 11/21/2008 4:28:27 AM PST by Nipfan
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To: Nipfan

“age” = “ate”


29 posted on 11/21/2008 4:28:58 AM PST by Nipfan
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To: Nipfan

The SC will simply choose not to hear the case, probably without comment.


30 posted on 11/21/2008 4:31:09 AM PST by Cedric
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To: kpp_kpp

bttt


31 posted on 11/21/2008 4:31:26 AM PST by petercooper (1/20/13 - Change I can believe in.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

It’s not that simple. You can’t just overlook or ignore a SCOTUS decision and the next day the sun rises over America as usual. Nothing would ever be the same here again.


32 posted on 11/21/2008 4:32:21 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Stop feeding Leftist education systems. Don't let your kids go there.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

There’s no “crime” here, just possible grounds for disqualification.


33 posted on 11/21/2008 4:35:23 AM PST by Cedric
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To: CapnJack

What if they don’t take the case and down the road we find out he WAS born in Kenya? Talk about a nightmare. The Supreme Court would lose ALL credibility. It is their job to make sure the Constitution in followed, do you think they want the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on this country in their lap?

In this day and age, NOTHING stays secret. Any person who could come up with any documentation to show he was not a citizen or ineligible would more than get their 15 minutes of fame, they’d be in history books.


34 posted on 11/21/2008 4:37:04 AM PST by panthermom
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To: SeaHawkFan
Those will get widespread notice.

Widespread notice? Other than World Net Daily has this issue,
to any degree, seen the light of day in the liberal MSM?
I didn't think so ...

35 posted on 11/21/2008 4:41:05 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
If they say he may not be POTUS, how are they going to enforce their ruling? And if they can't, do they want THAT precedent?

The Congress wouldn't ignore such a ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court. If they did, there would be another revolution.

36 posted on 11/21/2008 4:54:52 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: CapnJack

This story and these questions aren’t going away. Even if the USSC dodges this bullet, there will still be the question of Obama’s legitimacy looming. Do you really think that half of the country will just sit back while a possible foreigner runs/ruins the country? I’ve been predicting another civil war for years now. I was, however, kinda hoping that we conservatives would be the ones “in power” when it happened. Looks like that will not be the case.


37 posted on 11/21/2008 5:08:31 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: SeaHawkFan
If they did, there would be another revolution.

Our side doesn't "revolt", the other side does. That's the whole point here.

38 posted on 11/21/2008 5:11:41 AM PST by Cedric
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To: XenaLee
Do you really think that half of the country will just sit back while a possible foreigner runs/ruins the country?

Yes.

39 posted on 11/21/2008 5:13:17 AM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric

I guess the fraudulent collecting of 650 million dollars in campaign funds would not be a crime? Or the fact that his Democrat Primary win and subsequent Presidential victory denied Americans of a fair choice is not a crime?


40 posted on 11/21/2008 5:15:09 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Sure. Congress would quickly and expeditiously schedule impeachment hearings. The matter would be resolved in a couple of weeks. /sarc


41 posted on 11/21/2008 5:17:49 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Red_Devil 232
Separate issues.

On the issue of the birth certificate, there's no underlying crime.

42 posted on 11/21/2008 5:19:48 AM PST by Cedric
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To: SeaHawkFan
The Congress wouldn't ignore such a ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court. If they did, there would be another revolution.

Ain't 1774/1775 and there was a different breed of people living here then
43 posted on 11/21/2008 5:22:29 AM PST by uncbob
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

“... If they say he may not be POTUS, how are they going to enforce their ruling? And if they can’t, do they want THAT precedent?”

That’s why they’re calling this a constitutional crisis. It will be a nightmare.

DNC should’ve made bo provide this way back when.


44 posted on 11/21/2008 5:24:24 AM PST by jackv (Just shakin' my head!!)
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To: Cedric

I see Cedric is the “house-Obama” on this thread just like no-sequitir is the “house-Obama” on other threads.

You guys feeling a little hear are you? LOL!


45 posted on 11/21/2008 5:25:13 AM PST by Free America52
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
The SCOTUS would not be the deciding body. All they are being asked to do is require the SoS of NJ to require all the Presidential candidates on the ballot in NJ provide evidence that they are indeed eligible and meet all of the requirements as set forth in the US Constitution.
46 posted on 11/21/2008 5:27:29 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Free America52

Oh for cripe’s sake, did you forget where you are? This isn’t API.


47 posted on 11/21/2008 5:29:22 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I can’t type when I’m mad I guess. My post should have said . . .

I see Cedric is the “house-Obama” on this thread just like non-sequitir is the “house-Obama” on other threads.

You guys feeling a little heat are you? LOL!


48 posted on 11/21/2008 5:31:09 AM PST by Free America52
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To: Free America52
You guys feeling a little hear are you?

Feeling a little incoherent are you?

49 posted on 11/21/2008 5:32:05 AM PST by Cedric
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To: STARWISE
The Supreme Court Justices have sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United State of America. THAT is there only purpose of being.
This is not JUST our Constitution being placed in crisis, it is the Judiciary in crisis because the president selected, the executive branch has tried to created the downfall of one of the branches in government. (anarchy would follow).
IMO Obama’s actions are significant enough to be tried for treason.
50 posted on 11/21/2008 5:32:37 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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