Skip to comments.Supremes to review citizenship arguments-Case challenging candidacy set for 'conference' of justices
Posted on 11/20/2008 11:46:54 PM PST by STARWISE
A case that challenges President-elect Barack Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot citing questions over his citizenship has been scheduled for a "conference" at the U.S. Supreme Court.
Conferences are private meetings of the justices at which they review cases and decide which ones to accept for formal review.
This case is set for a conference Dec. 5, just 10 days before the Electoral College is scheduled to meet to make formal the election of Obama as the nation's next president.
The Supreme Court's website listed the date for the case brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the secretary of state in New Jersey, over not only Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot but those of two others, Sen. John McCain and Roger Calero.
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A small infraction. Let’s MOVE ON!(/Soros Sick off)
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The case also raises the circumstances of Obama’s time during his youth in Indonesia, where he was listed as having Indonesian citizenship. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, raising the possibility of Obama’s mother having given up his U.S. citizenship.
Any subsequent U.S. citizenship then, the case claims, would be “naturalized,” not “natural-born.”
That’s assuming he went through the naturalization process. If not he is still a citizen of Indonesia.
so case (a) he’s British or Kenyan, case (b) he’s Indonesian, and case (c) there is a real full birth certificate in Hawaii stating he was born in Hawaii.
if (c) why not just release it and put an end to the rumors? that is what i don’t understand — i was a doubter until we got to the election with no release of info. i thought he was just hanging on til the last minute to make the questioners look stupid. now i’m curious too.
Whatever happened to the Hawaii Governor saying that they have posession of it?
why not just release it and put an end to the rumors? that is what i dont understand i was a doubter until we got to the election with no release of info. i thought he was just hanging on til the last minute to make the questioners look stupid. now im curious too.
I’m pretty much where you are kpp_kpp. Just release it if you have it! If it were me and I’d just been elected and had this huge, very ambitious plan to “change” the U.S. I wouldn’t want anything to detract from that & I’d just release the thing.
That said I can only believe it’s his arrogance that’s causing his original birth certificate to be withheld. I think 0bama thinks he doesn’t have to answer to anyone. He thinks he’s better than everyone else and I believe, due to the lack of vetting and the fawning admiration of the 0bamamedia, he thinks he can get away with doing whatever he wants and ignoring what he doesn’t think is important.
JMHO, but it’s just one more example of how he doesn’t have to follow the same rules as everyone else.
Remember, it’s not just the original BC we’re after.
We want full disclosur.
The chink in the armor has been breached.
Lets get the rest out too!!!!!
Release the document and prove he is a citizen and let's go after his Ideologies. If he is not a citizen, and his staff and most of the Dems knew he was not a citizen, then the Democrats are guilty of a “Coup d'etat”.... if Obama is not an American Born Citizen..then we have a Constitutional Crisis on our hands.
If this comes down to this man not being a natural born citizen, this is serious business folks. Most of all, why did the Democrat Party file a counter claim that Berg did not have standing? Why not show the LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE to clarify any problems? Why continue to hide the BIRTH CERTIFICATE? Exactly what is the problem?
WAKE UP AMERICA!!
Are you folks that delusional? All the Supremes are going to do is find a way to quietly dismiss this case and move one.
Could you imagine what would happen if this was actually taken up as a case and if they HAD to rule against obama. The moonbats would go ballistic ... and the Supremes don't want that to happen.
It's going to conference, so I'd say there is a good chance of it being taken up sionce there is a serious constitutional question involved. Even if it doesn't go forward, expect at least three justices to issue opinions addressing why it should be heard. Those will get widespread notice.
If it is heard, expect a 9-0 decision against Obama if he cannot establish that he is a natural born citizen. The constitution is very clear.
“The moonbats would go ballistic ... and the Supremes don’t want that to happen.”
How do you know this?
If it is heard, expect a
9-05-4 decision againstin favor of Obama if he cannot establish that he is a natural born citizen. The constitution is very clear.
There, fixed your statement.
What if they won't take it up, because the Constitution is clear and there is no "constitutional question?" And if he can't prove he's natural born, maybe they don't want to put their power to the test. If they say he may not be POTUS, how are they going to enforce their ruling? And if they can't, do they want THAT precedent?
I just got a letter from the Maine dmv yesterday. In order to renew my drivers license I MUST show a birth certificate or I will be denied. This is a new law to stop illegals from getting licenses. Shame the nation doesn’t have a similar rule for elections.
The Supreme Court (probably any court) has the right to ask the FBI/CIA etc. for any information relevant information they may have. With his associations, he is just the sort of person who would be on their radar.
“What if they won’t take it up, because the Constitution is clear and there is no “constitutional question?” And if he can’t prove he’s natural born, maybe they don’t want to put their power to the test. If they say he may not be POTUS, how are they going to enforce their ruling? And if they can’t, do they want THAT precedent?”
The Constitution is clear that the president must be a natural born American. All they need do is ask to see his full birth certificate. Surely that’s not asking too much? If it says he was born in Kenya then its clear as crystal that he’s NOT natural born.
The fact that this matter is going to “conference” dooms it.
All of this is the fault of the barry-backside kissing MSM.
If they had done their jobs (instead of trying to find dirt on Palin) we never would have been in this mess.
They're NOT ideologically neutral. They're over run with liberals, too. Even if ordered, they'll figure out a way to redact the evidence, or release it in a way that is mis-leading or inconclusive.
Even if Jesus returned with THE original copy of the COLB proving that he was born in Kenya, 0bama is going to be our next President. Don't believe that he won't.
All the SCOTUS has to do is rule that all the candidates produce their vault Birth record. If it proves that Obama is a citizen then that is that. If it proves he is not a citizen then a crime against the USA will have been commited ... and it will be Obamas fault not the SCOTUS.
Well, obviously for 0bama it’s a lot better to say there IS no original bc to be found (the dog ate it), than to hand in one that says he’s Kenyan-born.
I’m saying SCOTUS does not want to be in the position to say he can’t be POTUS. And there are plenty of ways for them to wiggle out.
They do not want to issue a ruling that effectively throws out a decisive popular vote, and brings wrath, challenges, and questions of relevance, scope of powers, and legitimacy on them.
And while that sounds crazy to us, it wouldn’t be to millions of moonbats.
“The dog age it” is not much of an excuse when, in most states, you can get a certified copy for around $10. And, apparently, he has already spent something like $800,000 to avoid having to produce it.
“age” = “ate”
The SC will simply choose not to hear the case, probably without comment.
It’s not that simple. You can’t just overlook or ignore a SCOTUS decision and the next day the sun rises over America as usual. Nothing would ever be the same here again.
There’s no “crime” here, just possible grounds for disqualification.
What if they don’t take the case and down the road we find out he WAS born in Kenya? Talk about a nightmare. The Supreme Court would lose ALL credibility. It is their job to make sure the Constitution in followed, do you think they want the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on this country in their lap?
In this day and age, NOTHING stays secret. Any person who could come up with any documentation to show he was not a citizen or ineligible would more than get their 15 minutes of fame, they’d be in history books.
Widespread notice? Other than World Net Daily has this issue,
to any degree, seen the light of day in the liberal MSM?
I didn't think so ...
The Congress wouldn't ignore such a ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court. If they did, there would be another revolution.
This story and these questions aren’t going away. Even if the USSC dodges this bullet, there will still be the question of Obama’s legitimacy looming. Do you really think that half of the country will just sit back while a possible foreigner runs/ruins the country? I’ve been predicting another civil war for years now. I was, however, kinda hoping that we conservatives would be the ones “in power” when it happened. Looks like that will not be the case.
Our side doesn't "revolt", the other side does. That's the whole point here.
I guess the fraudulent collecting of 650 million dollars in campaign funds would not be a crime? Or the fact that his Democrat Primary win and subsequent Presidential victory denied Americans of a fair choice is not a crime?
Sure. Congress would quickly and expeditiously schedule impeachment hearings. The matter would be resolved in a couple of weeks. /sarc
On the issue of the birth certificate, there's no underlying crime.
“... If they say he may not be POTUS, how are they going to enforce their ruling? And if they can’t, do they want THAT precedent?”
That’s why they’re calling this a constitutional crisis. It will be a nightmare.
DNC should’ve made bo provide this way back when.
I see Cedric is the “house-Obama” on this thread just like no-sequitir is the “house-Obama” on other threads.
You guys feeling a little hear are you? LOL!
Oh for cripe’s sake, did you forget where you are? This isn’t API.
I can’t type when I’m mad I guess. My post should have said . . .
I see Cedric is the house-Obama on this thread just like non-sequitir is the house-Obama on other threads.
You guys feeling a little heat are you? LOL!
Feeling a little incoherent are you?