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How Mainstream Media Destroys Democracy, What To Do About It
The Bulletin ^ | November 20, 2008 | Herb Denenberg

Posted on 11/21/2008 10:17:50 AM PST by jazusamo

One of the most powerful media figures has blamed the newspapers downward plunge in circulation and profits on the fact that they have forfeited the trust and loyalty of their readers. But I think his basis for saying this is misplaced or incomplete.

According to Rupert Murdoch, who offered this diagnosis of newspaper troubles, the problem lies in the "complacency and condescension" in some newsrooms. He says, "The complacency stems from having enjoyed a monopoly - and now finding they have to compete for an audience they once took for granted. The condescension that many show their readers is an even bigger problem. It takes no special genius to point out that if you are contemptuous of your customers, you are going to have a hard time getting them to buy your product. Newspapers are no exception."

I'd say the problem runs far deeper than that. The problem is that the mainstream media has now become a lapdog and bootlicker of the Obama administration and during the campaign, and now during the transition, have demonstrated they are simply cheerleaders and propagandists for President-elect Barack Obama and have totally abandoned journalistic standards calling for fair and balanced reporting on Mr. Obama and on other national issues. In my view, the mainstream media pulled off a virtual coup by defrauding the voters into accepting an unqualified candidate who was never vetted properly.

The mainstream media continues to amaze even its most critical observers by going ever deeper into the journalistic sewer. I keep thinking the mainstream media can't get any worse, but it continues to prove I'm wrong.

Mr. Obama is now in the early stages of his transition period, and already the front-page of Newsweek portrays him as Lincoln, Time magazine shows him as FDR, The New York Times calls the young voters the "O-generation," and ABC is putting out a DVD called "Yes, We Can: the Barack Obama Story." Howard Kurtz, media writer of the Washington Post, described this all as a "giddy sense of boosterism." He should have added an unprofessional and biased slant on the news. Perhaps he might have also said the mainstream media have been drinking too much Obama Kool-Aid, leading to the Obamania Derangement Syndrome.

Charles Krauthammer, the great columnist, said after reading one Newsweek cover story on Mr. Obama, that it would not have any adjectives left over to describe the Second Coming. During the campaign and transition the mainstream media have done everything but officially declare Mr. Obama a Messiah, Savior and the Second Coming. They only imply that, and their coverage has come close to canonizing and deifying the Great One. There is no limit to the extent the mainstream media will now go to push their Chosen One, and if the present trend continues he will be declared a saint for his inaugural address.

Worse than all that is the mainstream media makes no pretense of being fair and balanced. As they wallow in their journalistic malpractice, they have no shame. Even literature prepared by the Obama campaign or the Obama administration would not be so over the edge in selling Mr. Obama, as they would fear readers might suspect that what is too good to be true probably is - a fraud. The mainstream media has abandoned all journalistic principles and shows no shame while they produce an endless flow of biased, dishonest and fraudulent journalism.

In my view, it's not the mainstream newspapers' complacency and condescension that caused the loss of trust and confidence; it's their fundamental dishonesty and failure to deliver the fair and balanced reporting and information the public wants. The public doesn't want to read Pravda or the writing, raving and ranting of a Joseph Goebbels-type that tells the big lie to make his points. That's where we are, and that's what is dooming the mainstream media.

I would say the public has moved even beyond a position of distrust toward the mainstream media. I for one see it as a force more dangerous to democracy than terrorism. We have been successful in fighting terrorism and keeping the homeland secure. But the mainstream media is not under control and in fact is getting worse by the day and consequently more damaging to democracy by the day. So there is not only distrust of the mainstream media but also positive and intense hatred for what it is and what it is doing.

The bottom line is that readers simply don't trust the mainstream media, and that's fatal to any media outlet. Mr. Murdoch got both sides of the trust issue right. First, he said the public has loss trust in the media. Second, he also mentions the other half of the trust issue, when he said the editors and reporters don't trust their readers. Mr. Murdoch wrote, "A recent American study reported that many editors and reporters simply do not trust their readers to make good decisions. Let's be clear about what this means. This is a polite way of saying that these editors and reporters think their readers are too stupid to think for themselves."

Mr. Murdoch does make one critically important point by explaining some of the impact of all the new technology and sources of news that we now have. Mr. Murdoch said, "It used to be that a handful of editors could decide what was news - and what was not. They acted as sort of demigods. If they ran a story, it became news. If they ignored an event, it never happened. Today, editors are losing this power. The Internet, for example, provides access to thousands of new sources that cover things an editor might ignore. And if you aren't satisfied with that, you can start up your own blog and cover and comment on the news yourself. Journalists like to think of themselves as watchdogs, but they haven't always responded well when the public calls them to account."

I know how arrogant and indifferent to criticism the mainstream media can be. I've been involved in several conferences with Philadelphia Inquirer editors about its anti-Israel bias, and afterward, I found I would have been better off talking to the wall, which might have been more receptive and I know would have had more sense. This was under the Knight-Ridder management teams, but from the new owner's product I see only marginal improvement. This means that the public can avoid the toxic journalism of the mainstream media simply by avoiding it, boycotting it and finding alternatives they can trust.

The mainstream media malpractice during and after the election represents the greatest malfeasance and media failure in history and if not counteracted has the potential to inflict grievous and even fatal damage to the greatest democracy in the history of the world.

If that's not bad enough, it gets worse. The public doesn't seem to care. Sen. McCain tried to make media malpractice into a campaign issue, but that had no traction. Here's the way Stephen Spruiell explained it, writing in the National Review (Dec. 1) in an article entitled "Going Mainstream: The Right Faces New Media Realities":

"The McCain campaign complained mightily about these and other instances of media malpractice, and the public shrugged. In perhaps the most blatant case of overt bias against McCain, New York Times executive editor Bill Keller said that each complaint from the McCain campaign made him want to 'find the toughest McCain story we've got and put it on the front page, just to show them they can't get away with it.'

"When the top newspaper editor in the country is openly discussing his strategy to attack the Republican nominee through the news pages and almost no one cares, complaining about bias just isn't going to accomplish much.

"The mainstream media have staked their future on Obama; that was evident in the way they conducted themselves during the campaign. Economic and political forces are driving notionally objective news organizations toward overt partisanship. Now is the time to invest in conservative alternatives and work to secure mainstream reception for conservative voices. The media game has changed and have to get better at playing it."

As long as so many people rely on the mainstream media for their news and information, Republicans and conservatives are going to operate under a serious handicap. So there are some remedies.

First, the Republicans have to do more to directly communicate news and information to supporters, potential supporters and everyone else. This is much more practicable with the advent of the Internet, e-mail, blogs and all the rest. In an interesting article, Patrick Ruffini of the National Review (Dec. 1), in an article titled "Roots of Defeat: Let Us Study And Emulate The Left's Online Tactics," there is an explanation of how the Democrats used the Internet, how they have done a better job of using the new technology, and how the Republicans have to catch up and surpass them in the use of the Internet and the new technology.

The Republicans don't do a good job of getting the word out. I don't think I received one good document or e-mail from the Republican National Committee setting forth material designed to help sell their view and refute their opponent's arguments.

Second, the pubic has to be mobilized to effectively criticize mainstream media bias by all means available, such as letters-to-the-editor, calls to talk shows and support of groups that fight media bias.

Third, the public has to start inflicting economic damage on the dishonest, fraudulent, and biased mainstream media. That means individual and organized boycotts of the mainstream media, canceling subscriptions and discontinuing advertising in them.

Fourth, the public has to start going to alternative media outlets that can be trusted to give the whole picture. There are hundreds of such sites and here are some good places to start:

* Newspapers: The Wall Street Journal, Investor's Business Daily, The Washington Times, The New York Post, and The Philadelphia Bulletin. One of the best conservative papers, The New York Sun, recently folded. So if you want these alternative voices to survive, you better support them.

* Magazines: The National Review, The Weekly Standard, and Commentary.

* Broadcasters: Fox News Network and WNTP-AM (990) both around the clock. The 990 lineup includes Bill Bennett, Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Savage, Mark Levine, and Mike Gallagher, many of which have excellent Web sites of their own. Also Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh on WPHT-AM (1210).

* Web sites: Townhall.com, Frontpage.com, and Drudgereport.com.

* Web sites specializing in media bias: camera.org and honestreporting.com.

* Blogs: Pajamasmedia.com, instapundit.com, and littlegreenfootballs.com.

Fifth, support the Republican Party and other voices of opposition that provide the kind of information that the mainstream media ignores. You have to put your money where your mouth is to assure that the public gets both sides of the ongoing political controversies.

Herb Denenberg is a former Pennsylvania Insurance Commissioner, Pennsylvania Public Utility Commissioner, and professor at the Wharton School. He is a longtime Philadelphia journalist and consumer advocate. He is also a member of the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of the Sciences. His column appears daily in The Bulletin. You can reach him at advocate@ thebulletin.us.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 4thestate5thcolumn; balancethebias; denenberg; enemedia; howobamawondotorg; mediabias; msm; obama
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To: jazusamo
I disagree, I think that our politicians present a danger to the US and are treasonous by way of giving aid and comfort to our enemies.

If nothing else, there is a horrendous amount of injustice as exemplified by: Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac (along w/ political connections), the "bailout" along with its own political connections, the "recounts", the lack of news/prosecution of ACORN, the lack of verification of credentials of Pr. Elect Obama.

Do you honestly think that these wrongs will be righted by the government? Do you think ANY good will come from the military just bending over and taking it in the @$$? Do you honestly believe that there is any good/just person in government?

Remember, God would have saved Sodom and Gomorrah if only TEN righteous men were found.

41 posted on 11/21/2008 12:07:21 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

>Saved as in spared.


42 posted on 11/21/2008 12:07:59 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GOP Poet
President Bush--love him or resent him or both-- discarded fiscal conservatism and along with him so did the stand by the GOP.

Was GWB ever a fiscal conservative? He called himself a "compassionate conservative". At the time I thought it was an interesting way of 'selling' conservatism being truly compassionate -- which it undeniably is. However now I'm thinking that it was a sub-rosa communication to the mushy-middle voters that it was "OK to vote for the Republican."

43 posted on 11/21/2008 12:30:29 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: TruthWillWin

Beyond the bias of Leno and Letterman, most college students get their political info from Jon Stewart (Lebovitz) and Stephen Colbert, and they think that they are informed. They have no idea that they are hearing one-sided arguments. These college students are our future voters. Scary!!


44 posted on 11/21/2008 12:36:18 PM PST by DeweyCA
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To: GOP Poet
there should be fundamental truths regarding the party and one of those should ALWAYS be fiscal conservatism and responsibly, less government in our lives, and upholding the traditional interpretation of the constitution as opposed to changing as one sees fit to fit their new degrading morals

Excellent thoughts and an even better job of putting them to words! This is the one line, though, that most resonated with me. I could not agree with it more. Your comments on Bush ring so true. Personally, I love the guy because of his war on terror. He tried to hold the rate of spending growth down and did increase tax revenues with tax cuts, but the last several months showed that he sold out his principles.

I see two problems. First is within Washington. There are way too many special interest groups that want their entitlements and favors. Trying to beat back the hand of special interest welfare (or entitlements) is a daunting task and one that can easily burn out a group. Let's face it, change requires not only courage, but perseverence. As politicians desire longevity, the will to go against the stream can fade.

Secondly, the people themselves tend to vote in their self interests. Who does not like to vote themselves free goodies? The more problems we have as a nation, the more we tend to rely on gov't for the solution. As you know, that may make the situation better in the short term, but it certainly has severe long term ramifications.

As you so aptly pointed out, the party is bigger than any one person, including the president. Fighting against the tsunami of liberalism does burn people out. That is why there is a great need to have the core principles, or fundamental truths, ingrained in the party and its platform. The party needs to function regardless of who holds what positions.

Fortunately, most Americans are not stupid. If things get bad economically under a socialist Obama regime, then I suspect that people will vote the bum, and hopefully the political dogma, out of office. It will take a core set of fundamental truths and the courage to point out how these truths will fix economic malaise to put the GOP back in power.

Have a great weekend! I have greatly enjoyed reading your well thought out comments!

45 posted on 11/21/2008 1:17:43 PM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: jazusamo

I expect The Columbian to fold any day now. I understand that Clark County has become slightly more Conservative with the influx of unhappy Californians. Just wait until the Arizonians arrive! :)


46 posted on 11/21/2008 1:24:26 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge.)
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To: Paperdoll
I expect The Columbian to fold any day now.

It wouldn't surprise me at all, they're in bad financial straights. Last night I sat down with the wife to watch the 11 PM local news, KATU Ch 2 and at the end of one of the stories the announcer said something to the effect we could check out the full story in the morning edition of The Columbian then something else about the paper. It seemed that it was a bit much not to be a paid plug by The Columbian but maybe it wasn't.

47 posted on 11/21/2008 1:33:26 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks!

MSM is just the DNC press corps.

I LOVE hearing of jobs cuts in their ranks.

Especially right before Christmas.


48 posted on 11/21/2008 2:55:01 PM PST by NoLibZone (Obams success proves that Ayers type violence is respected by the left. Let's do likewise.)
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To: JamesP81
"If Democracy is what the MSM was destroying, I'd be perfectly OK with it. But they're not trying to destroy democracy, they're trying to institute it by destroying the Republic."

BINGO! That's the very distinction that leapt into my head when I read the title, and I was compelled to remark to that effect, but see that you beat me to it. Very well done.

49 posted on 11/21/2008 3:00:01 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: mlocher
Great points all around and also had to agree with your points on Bush. Overall he was dogged in holding down the fort in specific areas and doesn't get a whole lot of acknowledgment.

I also agree about a love for the guy regarding his commitment and serious gonads to push through aggressive and effective terrorism policies. Plus he still makes my husband and I laugh and even tear up on occasion. There is a nearly instinctive care for this man and a protectiveness--most likely stemming from the horrendous, completely undeserved, disrespectful treatment from the left loons.

You had lots of wisdom too that you articulated incisively in your post. Points that I had not considered such as the entitlements, favors, lobbying etc. It is funny as as much as I was harshing on McCain in my earlier post, I do believe if he did nothing else as president he may have been able to make some headway here--unfortunately knowing him it would work out in the end to hurt R's more than D's--call me cynical--LOL.

Let's face it, change requires not only courage, but perseverence.

Another pearl of wisdom overall and a great reminder going forward as we figure out how the GOP is going to define and go after the future.

I have enjoy the exchange of ideas, analysis, and your thoughtful posts as well. Have an excellent weekend! :-D

50 posted on 11/21/2008 4:01:16 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: jazusamo

I think we should take a tip from that blogger who fed the hoax story to NBC and Fox re Palin being a diva, etc. When the truth came out, that it was all a lie, NBC (not sure about Fox) was humiliated and had to apologize.

We should organize some of the “good guy” bloggers and feed juicy erroneous stories to MSM and let them run go nuts spreading the lies. After everyone is saturated with the story, say, “Oh. Sorry. I lied. I made that up. It isn’t true.” Let them screw up a few times until they lose all credibility.


51 posted on 11/21/2008 4:14:31 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (We have elected a man ... who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen. - Dollard post)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Let them screw up a few times until they lose all credibility.

What credibility. They are always biased but this election cycle they raised their biases to a new level. I call it journalistic malpractice at best, Pravda like propaganda at worst.

52 posted on 11/21/2008 4:51:04 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Tallguy; jazusamo; abb; ebiskit; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; A.Hun; johnny7; ...
In my view, the mainstream media pulled off a virtual coup by defrauding the voters into accepting an unqualified candidate who was never vetted properly.
My view is that Homogenous JournalismTM retains the audience and influence it does for two reasons:
  1. the desire, nay even the lust, of people to know "what is going on." I characterize it as a "lust," in that the temptation Eve succumbed to in the Garden of Eden was "to be as gods, knowing good from evil." Likewise in the ancient text, "The Odyssey" (so old that it predates written Greek, which was developed in order to codify it and Homer's other great work, "The Iliad"), Odysseus is driven temporarily mad by the Sirens' Song - by the temptation they held out - which was, "to know all."
  2. the demagoguery of Homogenous JournalismTM, in that they flatter the reader that s/he does in fact know what is important, since s/he has bought and (partially) read the paper, and the paper tells you what is important, so the reader is "in the know."

53 posted on 11/21/2008 5:39:12 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (We already HAVE a fairness doctrine. It's called, "the First Amendment." Accept no substitute.)
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To: Tallguy; jazusamo; Congressman Billybob; holdonnow; ebiskit; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; A.Hun; ...

My interest is in the relation between Homogeneous JournalismTM - what calls itself "the press," (as if the Constitution uniquely referred to journalism, even though journalism as we know it may scarcely be said to have existed in the founding era) - the First Amendment, and the various laws which touch on the ability of individual people outside of the Homogeneous JournalismTM axis to influence public opinion. The "Campaign Finance Reform" laws - McCain-Feingold and its predecessors - fall into this category. But so also do rules of the FCC promoting journalism as a public service - and once, and possibly future, FCC rules of what it has styled "fairness."

The newspapers of the founding era were typically weeklies not dailies, and some even had no deadline and just went to press when the printer thought he was good and ready. Few newspapers were dailies because, in general, newspaper printers didn't have news sources to which the general public was in principle not privy. So "newspapers" at the time of the ratification of the First Amendment were more similar to opinion journals like the National Review or The Nation than they were like The New York Times or The Washington Post of today.

What changed between then and now? The telegraph. The telegraph, and the Associated Press. The AP was founded in 1848 as the New York Associated Press, and went national a few years later. But the AP was an aggressive monopolizer of the use of the telegraph to transmit news. According to Steve Boris,

The U.S. Supreme Court in 1945 . . . found the AP in violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act . . .
The book News Over the Wires: The Telegraph and the Flow of Public Information in America, 1844-1897 discusses some of the AP's monopolistic efforts. The AP was obviously a concentration of public influence, and it was challenged on that basis. The AP's response was to claim that its member newspapers famously were fractiously independent, and so the Associated Press itself was objective.

But the reality is that the Associated Press transformed the newspaper business from a fractious bunch of independent printers publishing their own opinions to the Homogeneous JournalismTM news business with which we are familiar - in which, far from being fractious, journalists studiously avoid criticizing each other but instead claim that all journalists are "objective!" The AP made that transformation inevitable by changing the business model of the newspaper business to one in which reports from reporters not directly associated with a given newspaper make up much of that newspaper's most interesting content. So the "fractious membership" defense is no defense at all. Indeed, since nobody can print everything and since "Half the truth is often a great lie," it should be apparent that it is not possible to prove the negative that journalism is unbiased.

The Homogeneous JournalismTM establishment exploits the very impossibility of proving its claim as a way of begging the question, "How do you expect us to prove that?" But with constitutional principle and the freedom and equality before the law which is the very raison d' etre of the Constitution at stake, there is no justification for allowing them to deflect the burden of proof back onto the people who plead for relief from a monopolistic establishment. Even so, it is a burden which the plaintiff can easily bear. Whole books have of course been written which document instances of egregious bias in, not just a single newspaper, but in a consensus of Homogeneous JournalismTM without substantial exception. And web sites have been dedicated to that same task. And although Homogeneous JournalismTM's "anecdotal evidence" defense gets tedious as more and more "anecdotes" are piled up, plaintiff need not appeal to anecdotal evidence at all, other than to note that the "anecdotes" do in fact exist.

But in fact the perspective of Homogeneous JournalismTM is openly self-documented. Criticize a report for one-sidedness in reporting only the bad and not the good about the results of a particular policy, and the reporter will instantly reply that "bad news sells" and "If it bleeds, it leads" - all to the point the "No news is good news." Which is all very well from the point of view of the business interests of the newspaper - but which begs the question of whether the business interest of the newspaper is identical to the public interest. The result is following argument:

  • the business interest of the Homogeneous JournalismTM is identical to the public interest.

  • therefore, whatever promotes the interest of Homogeneous JournalismTM is in the public interest.

  • therefore, one-sided coverage of the effects of a public policy is in the public interest.
But where in that logic is there a proof of the starting premise? It is a planted axiom. A begged question, whenever Homogeneous JournalismTM calls itself "the press."

And the same argument would apply to the very deadline structure of journalism, which starts from the premise that the interest of Homogeneous JournalismTM is identical to the public interest and leads to the conclusion that, simply because of the passage of a 24 hour period since the last "important" newspaper was published, the fate of the Republic depends on whether or not another newspaper" is published, irrespective of the events of the day or lack thereof, to promote the idea that it is important to read the newspaper.

The idea that it is important to read the newspaper is obviously the fundamental business interest of journalism. And an obvious way to promote that idea is to cast aspersions on people whose performance is important to the well being of society and who are not well situated, either to reciprocate in kind, or to help promote the idea that it is important to read the newspaper. The idea that the government should regulate business more closely, and that the US military and for that matter American law enforcement officers generally are inept and/or egregiously brutal, would imply that it is important to read the newspaper to read criticism of the transgressions of important people. Any political party which promoted those ideas, therefore, would promote the primary interest of Homogeneous JournalismTM - and would thereby insulate itself from criticism from Homogeneous JournalismTM.

Homogeneous JournalismTM rejects the idea that it is associated with a political party. But its refusal to publicize such association cannot prove that no such association exists de facto. And in fact that is transparently the case. There is in fact a political party associated with criticism of businessmen, the police, and the military - and the representatives of that party are systematically accorded positive labels by Homogeneous JournalismTM. And the opponents of that party are consistently the target of the brickbats of Homogeneous JournalismTM.

The effect of the claim that Homogeneous JournalismTM is objective, and of laws which take that claim as a given, is to position journalists as holders of an unconstitutional title of nobility. Journalists are not to be held to the same standard as the people at large. The consequences of that presumption on the part of Homogeneous JournalismTM are that

  • the past election campaign was conducted with wildly unequal funding for the two parties. The one which goes along and gets along with Homogeneous JournalismTM being by far the better funded. It is an artifact of this particular election that the underfunded candidate was personally instrumental in the enactment of the McCain-Feingold law, and arguably that candidate had only himself to blame for his plight - but that logic ignores the reality of the compromise of the rights of those among the people who supported him only for lack of any other realistic venue to express profound reservations on the candidate and the party preferred by Homogeneous JournalismTM.

  • over and above the difference in funding, Homogeneous JournalismTM found it to be "in the public interest" to give dramatically closer scrutiny to the credentials of the sitting governor who was the vice presidential candidate of the opponent of the party which Homogeneous JournalismTM prefers than to the credentials and associations of its preferred presidential candidate. This is indicative of the modus operandi of Homogeneous JournalismTM; it typically expresses its tendency far less in what it says than what it does not say. Criticism of any candidate would be unexceptionable if proportioned to the importance of the candidate and to the seriousness of the charges and the substance behind them. It is not the criticism of one candidate but the systematic aversion to criticism of the other candidate - without significant exception - which expresses the strong preference of so-called "objective" journalists. This is such a consistent trend that if an article reports on a politician caught up in scandal but the article does not mention the party association of the embarrassed politician, it is essentially certain that that politician is a member of the party which promotes criticism of businessmen, the military, and the police.

  • Broadcast licenses are given on the basis that broadcasters perform a public service when they broadcast "objective" journalism which is actually biased against anyone who takes responsibility to work to a bottom line, and in favor of anyone who criticizes and second guesses those who do take responsibility.

  • Talk Radio and, make no doubt, Free Republic and the rest of the internet is threatened with government sanction solely on the basis that it does not support the fatuous claim that Homogeneous JournalismTM makes to objectivity.
With that background, I ask the question - "How can any law in which the (unproven, unprovable, and factually false) "objectivity" of journalism is a planted axiom be squared with a First Amendment which forbids the government to enforce its idea of objectivity on religion, speech, press, or political assembly among the people?" In the realm of socialist politics, a Senator Schumer can rhetorically link censorship of conservative politics with censorship of pornography. But in the realm of law, which facts and logic are supposed to control, the answer to my question should IMHO be that that is absurd. If the government is permitted to define and enforce its idea of objectivity, what does the First Amendment actually mean?

The Republican Party presently is mounting a renewed challenge to the McCain-Feingold law. Assuming that FR lacks the resources to mount its own Supreme Court case, can we not at least submit a "Friend of the Court" brief raising the above points? What expense would we have to incur to do that?


54 posted on 11/21/2008 5:42:16 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (We already HAVE a fairness doctrine. It's called, "the First Amendment." Accept no substitute.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
*BUMP*

An excellent article on the MSM Free fall...and as I shared with you on a previous thread, I've already taken the first step in putting a huge dent in the MSM's purse in canceling my cable subscription and that of my local newspaper, whose publisher is openly Gay and extremely hostile to Evangelicals.

...Also, my latest Tag line succinctly describes my contempt for and distrust of the MSM.

55 posted on 11/21/2008 7:10:16 PM PST by T Lady (The MSM: Pravda West)
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To: jazusamo

“How Mainstream Media Destroys Democracy, What To Do About It”

I figured out what “to do about it” some years’ back:

I turned off the tv. I don’t watch “network news” anymore. I don’t watch ANY tv anymore. I don’t even own a television.

I stopped reading papers like the New York Times. I wouldn’t read it if it was free (and it freely obtainable where I work).

I stopped reading the “mainstream newsmagazines”.

I don’t even listen to the radio news.

I get my news and “opinion” here, and from sites like The Washington Times. Works for me.

I undertook these steps on my own, and was surprised to find that they were in line with what Pat Buchanan recommended in “The Death Of The West” - something he called “secession from the modern culture”. I sense that many Freepers have done as much, and those who have done the most are those who have taken to homeschooling their own children.

In some ways, this “withdrawal” from the increasingly leftist “mainstream” culture might be compared to the separation that the Amish and [some of the] Mennonites maintain for themselves.

One wonders how _much_ cultural secession will occur, before the Left decides that the latter-day “separationists” must be brought back into line, by force if need be...

- John


56 posted on 11/21/2008 8:41:34 PM PST by Fishrrman
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To: jazusamo

What would Bill Ayers do? hmmmmmm....since his ilk is now in power i would say it is ok to ....oh i don’t know maybe plant a bomb or 4 in ABC, or at NBC or maybe the NY Times?
Just kidding of course but would you be considered a terrorist or a freedom fighter since you are fighting against the forces that are trying to destroy this country from within?


57 posted on 11/21/2008 10:33:42 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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Assuming that FR lacks the resources to mount its own Supreme Court case, can we not at least submit a "Friend of the Court" brief raising the above points?

Is that needed? McCain-Feingold was rendered moot by Hussein by his credit-card overseas fundraising plot and his switch from public limits to unlimited private without losing a stroke. Perhaps our best tactic is to assume it never was a law, which is what our opposition does. Whenever we engage in a fight with the opposition and agree to use logic and the rule of law, we start out handicapped. The old Soviet Union was notorious for that tactics: "What's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable."

As far as the threat of the fairness doctrine, a similar tactic may be our best strategy. Simply ignore it. We have the technology and the expertise to go around them. Offshore servers, satellite radio, etc. They can't put us all in jail. With respect to the internet, a recent survey showed more people would prefer to give up their TV's than their internet connections. Government may have waited too late to try and control the internet. It's now Too Big to Fail.

Just a couple of thoughts while waiting for the coffee to brew early on a Saturday morning...

58 posted on 11/22/2008 2:41:49 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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BTTT


59 posted on 11/22/2008 3:00:21 AM PST by E.G.C. (Click on a freeper's screename and then "In Forum" to read his/her posts)
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BTTT


60 posted on 11/22/2008 3:00:30 AM PST by E.G.C. (Click on a freeper's screename and then "In Forum" to read his/her posts)
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