Skip to comments.The Culture of Conspiracy [JFK assassination and media whitewashing/deflection of commie angle]
Posted on 11/22/2008 6:02:05 AM PST by ETL
This week is the anniversary of the tragic day in 1963 [11/22/63, 35 years ago today] when John F. Kennedy was assassinated on the streets of Dallas. Looking back, we can see that Kennedy's death marked a turning point, when the political consensus of the time gave way to the confrontational politics that we associate with the 1960s. The upheavals that followed -- along with the bitter partisanship that disfigured political life in the last third of the century, and whose echoes we still hear today -- can be traced back to that day in Dallas.
The terrorist attack of Sept. 11, 2001, is the only other event in the modern era that compares with the Kennedy assassination in terms of its shattering impact on public opinion. And there are parallels: The 9/11 attacks, like the Kennedy case, stimulated conspiracy theories claiming that either the U.S. government knew what was coming, or that somehow America itself was responsible.
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Oswald was a dedicated communist who had defected to the Soviet Union in 1959 out of disgust with American capitalism. After becoming disillusioned with Soviet life, he returned to the U.S. in 1962. In early 1963, he bought a scoped rifle through the mail and soon used it to fire a shot (which missed) at retired general Edwin Walker, the head of the John Birch Society in Dallas. In the summer of 1963, Oswald was active in street demonstrations in support of Castro. In September 1963, he visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies in Mexico City seeking a travel visa that would allow him to travel to Cuba.
Oswald was among the radicals of the time who saw Third World revolutionaries like Castro as the wave of the communist future. He was well aware of Kennedy's efforts to overthrow Castro's regime. As a Senate investigative committee suggested in 1975, Oswald shot Kennedy to interrupt his administration's plans to assassinate Castro or to overthrow his regime in Cuba.
Ignoring Oswald's communist links, journalists and political leaders quickly claimed the president was a martyr to civil rights. Earl Warren said that Kennedy had "suffered martyrdom as a result of the hatred and bitterness that has been injected into the life of our nation by bigots." Martin Luther King said the assassination had to be viewed against the backdrop of violence against civil rights marchers in the South. James Reston wrote in the New York Times that "something in the nation itself, some strain of madness and violence, had destroyed the highest symbol of law and order."
The consensus opinion was that Kennedy was a victim of hate and bigotry, a casualty of his support for civil rights. The Cold War and Kennedy's ongoing feud with Castro were rarely mentioned as factors behind the assassination. The reasons? Mrs. Kennedy wanted her husband remembered as a modern-day Abraham Lincoln. Lyndon Johnson feared complicating relations with the Soviet Union. Liberals feared a replay of the McCarthy period, when the Wisconsin senator inflamed public opinion about fears of domestic communism.
Rather, "45 years AGO today.
Geez, I think I'll go back to bed! Wuz up late last night.
You shouldn’t have made the correction. For a moment, I felt 10 years younger.
I remember the blame game very well although I was just a Sophomore in high school. Even back then it struck me as very dishonest of the media to blame white southerners for the assassination.
I guess Oswald technically was a white Southerner but he was the exact opposite of the persona created by the media. His beliefs were the antithesis of White Southerners but it didn’t matter. Also a lot of blame given to gun owners and they used that to pass the Gun Control Act of 1968.
The idea that only in recent American History there'd been conspiracy theories and a partisan divide is foolish nonsense.
Lee Harvey Oswald
From Wikipedia (with lots of references at site) :
Around the age of fifteen, he became an ardent Marxist solely from his private reading on the topic. He wrote in his diary, "I was looking for a key to my environment, and then I discovered socialist literature. I had to dig for my books in the back dusty shelves of libraries." At 16 he wrote to the Socialist Party of America, stating that he was a Marxist who had been studying socialist principles for "well over fifteen months," and asked for information about their youth league.
While in the Marines, Oswald was trained in the use of the M1 Garand rifle. Following that training, he was tested in December of 1956, and obtained a score of 212, which was 2 points above the minimum for qualifications as a sharpshooter. In May 1959, on another range, Oswald scored 191, which was 1 point over the minimum for ranking as a marksman.
Small and frail compared to the other Marines, he was nicknamed Ozzie Rabbit after the cartoon character. His shyness and Soviet sympathies alienated him from his fellow Marines. Ostracism only seemed to provoke him into being a stauncher, more outspoken communist. For his steadfast beliefs, his nickname ultimately became Oswaldskovich.
Life in the Soviet Union
In October 1959, Oswald immigrated to the Soviet Union. He was nineteen, and the trip was planned well in advance. Along with having taught himself rudimentary Russian, he had saved $1,500 of his Marine Corps salary, got an early "hardship" discharge by (falsely) claiming he needed to care for his injured mother, got a passport, and submitted several fictional applications to foreign universities in order to obtain a student visa (and possibly help avoid Marine Corps reserve duty).
After spending only three days with his mother in Fort Worth, he departed by ship from New Orleans on September 20, 1959, for the Soviet Union, first arriving in Le Havre in France, then to London,England and eventually Oswald to a Finnair flight to Helsinki, Finland as part of a package tour. Oswald landed to Helsinki airport in October 10 at 23.30 a.m. he registered at the Hotel Torni but two days later , he moved to the Kurki Hotel.Oswald applied for a visa at the embassy on October 12, his first business day in Helsinki. Oswalds visa was issued on October 14. It was valid until October 20 and permitted him to take one trip of not more than 6 days to the Soviet Union. He left from Helsinki Central Railway Station by train next day on October 15 to Moscow and when he crossed the Finnish-Russian border at Vainikkala, he arrived to Moscow on October 16."  When he arrived in the Soviet Union and showed up unexpectedly at the Embassy in Moscow, he said he wanted to renounce his U.S. citizenship. When the Navy Department learned of this, it changed Oswald's Marine Corps discharge from "hardship/honorable" to "undesirable."
Oswald told a reporter in Moscow, "For two years I've had it in my mind, don't form any attachments, because I knew I was going away. I was planning to divest myself of everything to do with the United States." To another reporter he said, "I would not consider returning to the United States," and referred to the Soviet government as "my government." His wish to remain in the Soviet Union was initially applauded by the Soviets, but although he had some technical knowledge acquired in the Marines they soon discovered he had little of real value to offer the Soviet Union and his application for Soviet residency was rejected. In response, Oswald made a bloody but minor cut to his left wrist in his hotel room bathtub. After bandaging his superficial injury, the cautious Soviets kept him under psychiatric observation at the Botkin Hospital. Although this attempt may have been no more than an attention-getting ruse, the Soviet government feared an international incident if he were to attempt something similar again.
Oswald returned to New Orleans, arriving on the morning of April 25, 1963 looking for work. After Oswald got a job as a machinery greaser with the Reily Coffee Company in May, Marina was driven there by family friend Ruth Paine. Oswald was fired for inefficiency and dereliction of duty on July 19.
During this period, Oswald began to consider returning to the Soviet Union or going to Cuba. He had Marina write to the Soviet Embassy in Washington, D.C. about the possibility of their returning to the Soviet Union. His Marxist ideals became focused on Fidel Castro and Cuba and he soon became a vocal pro-Castro advocate.
Nor was LHO the only lefty assassin in US history.
A coup d’etat that succeeded.
Did anyone see the recent Discovery Channel show on the assassination? It was pretty hard to watch, but they took replica heads and had a sharpshooter (armed with a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle) hit them from various angles based on the locations of possible shooters around Dealey Plaza, including the grassy knoll.
The only shot that produced an exact Zapruder-like plume of stuff from the fake head was the one from the equivalent of the sixth-floor depository window. It was the most convincing thing I’ve ever seen on the assassination.
I turned fifteen on that day (I did the math. Help.). It was the end of gym class when the coach got us into formation and announced the terrible news. That night Huntley-Brinkley was already describing JFK’s trip to Dallas as a descent into hostile territory. The speculation began when Jack Ruby gunned down Oswald.
Just my two kopeks, but it looks like the only conspiracy was Oswald’s, i.e., to guarantee his entry into the history books. I recall the Soviets expressed deep sorrow at the time. And why not? Kennedy was worth far more to them alive than dead, in Khrushchev’s view.
Oswald was such a loser that the Soviets practically kicked him out of the USSR (still don’t know why they provided him a Russian wife).
IMHO, that’s one more way that this nation of ours is blessed: every assassination or attempt on a President’s life has been carried out by nut job loners not privy to any wider conspiracy.
John Wilkes Booth: he and three other Rebs were going to murder not only Lincoln but his entire Cabinet? Right.
Charles Guiteau: disgruntled office seeker.
Leon Czolgocz: lone anarchist.
Lee Harvey Oswald: see above.
Squeeky Fromme: demented cultist. The other would-be assassin equally deranged.
John Hinckley: tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan just to impress Jodi Foster, so it’s said.
Best now to concentrate on Al-Qaeda. Now THAT’S a grand conspiracy, with a cast of many thousands!
(The last two names should ring a bell)
I know some decedents of the Mob in Chicago who believe that the Mob killed JFK. Pay back for going after the Unions. After lots of support from the mob and Chicago machine to get elected..he and RFK turned on them.
The question is..how did they manipulate Oswald?
The writer of the movie, “JFK” is always there on every Sunday. He's mostly ignored. The mouth pieces are the homeless bums who get five dollars for saying things like there were six shooters behind the fence. If you say anything to contradict them, they start screaming at you.
On the eleventh of every month, the 9-11 truthers show up. It's a zoo.
Ice Bullet Killed Kennedy
An anonymous physicist on the internet has pieced together an interesting set of circumstances and arrived at a curious conclusion: the driver of the presidential limousine probably killed President Kennedy with an ice bullet coated with shellfish poison that fateful day in November, 1963.
Heres how it happened:
As the car carrying Kennedy rounded the curve near the book depository, the secret service driver slowed the car, turned around and fired one shot from a handgun at the president. He missed.
Trying to shot while driving, though, is tricky. This first errant shot accounts for the wounds to the passengers.
Those passengers, Gov. Connally and his wife, who were riding in the front seat and obviously in on the assassination plot, shouted duck, and dived down to the floorboard so the driver could swing his pistol over and around the couple and get a clear shot.
But the Connallys werent fast enough - the agents first bullet went wild and he accidentally shot Connally. However, Connally wasnt a shellfish, so he didnt die from the poison-coated bullet. This errant first shot panicked the conspirators. Something needed to be done fast.
Now part II of the plot reveals an additional conspirator - the second secret service agent riding on the passenger side.
Realizing the plot needs more deliberation and care, the second agent yells at the driver to Stop the damn car and shot him!
So the driver brakes the car in the middle of the street, in front of 50,000 onlookers lining the presidential route, turns around a second time, takes careful aim and delivers the fatal shot. All this action has been cleverly omitted from the Zapruder assassination film except the gunsmoke from the agents gun.
This remarkable theory destroys the idea of a hidden assassin at the grassy knoll. He gets away.
This is not all, says the anonymous physicist. A careful investigation reveals the driver had brown hair at the airport. In the film, though, it can be seen that his hair has turned white, most likely from ice crystals falling on his head while loading the ice bullets in the freezer.
An FBI agent who witnessed the assassination tried to run to the car but another secret service agent knocks him out with a machinegun. This also passed unnoticed by thousands of bystanders, including a few hundred World War II veterans.
Meanwhile, our anonymous physicist reveals that he found George H. Bush at the book depository helping frame Lee Harvey Oswald. His son, George W. Bush, would later drop nuclear bombs on the Twin Towers on 9-11.
So there you have yet another theory behind the Kennedy assassination, done in by ice bullets coated with shellfish poison.
As for the presidential limousine, the Air Force picked up the car, loaded it onto a C5A and dropped it into the Atlantic Ocean, where its been floating on an iceburg since.
Thank you for that.
In exchange, please rent the movie, “Idiocracy”. It’s proof your tag line is correct.
I don't recall seeing that one, but there's a bogus movie/'documentary' on AMC (American Movie Classics) tonight about the event, I believe, starring Kevin Cosner and Donald Sutherland? Funny how it's always the commie left who get the roles in these types of films (Martin Sheen, etc).
For those of you too young to know, Donald Sutherland was part of Hanoi Jane's crew.
June, 1970 -- Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), a national veterans group that is part of the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. The PCPJ is a broad coalition of local and national organizations, including the Communist Party, USA, "committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina, and poverty, racism and injustice at home." The VVAW, CCI and PCPJ all have headquarters at 156 Fifth Avenue in New York City. VVAW Executive Secretary Al Hubbard, a former Black Panther, is also on the coordinating committee of the PCPJ. Hubbard soon appoints Kerry to the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the normal election process.
Photo (link below): "Jane Fonda and John Kerry at an anti-war rally in Valley Forge, Pa. (Leif Skoogfors/Corbis)"
(apparently, we are not permitted to directly post the Skoogfors/Corbis photo here?)
The photo is for real and different than the one above. Here is what Jane Fonda herself had to say about it:
"My reaction is that the American people have had it with the big lie. Any attempt to link Kerry to me and make him look bad with that connection is completely false. We were at a rally for veterans at the same time. I spoke, Donald Sutherland spoke, John Kerry spoke at the end. I don't even think we shook hands."
Source for the photo and quote:
November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
January, 1971: Jane Fonda raises funds for the Winter Soldier Investigation through a series of benefit concerts. Participants include Fonda, Dick Gregory, Donald Sutherland, Graham Nash, David Crosby and Phil Ochs. Fonda is named Honorary National Coordinator of the event.
February 16, 1971: Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland form "FTA" (F*** The Army), an anti-war, anti-American road show that tours near Army bases in order to undermine troop morale. Skits and songs portray American defeats, soldiers refusing to fight, and the murder of officers by their troops. FTA cast members mingle with soldiers after the shows, encouraging them to desert or to sabotage the Army.
Fonda made the following statement at the University of Texas:
"We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses. Whether the transition is peaceful depends on the way our present governmental leaders react. We must commit our lives to this transition ...... We should be very proud of our new breed of soldier. It's not organized but it's mutiny, and they have every right." --Karen Elliott Dallas Morning News December 11, 1971
From 1972: "I am not a do-gooder, I am a revolutionary. A revolutionary woman."
Seems we’re ignoring the strong commie angle as well. Looks like the media whitewashing was successful.
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