Skip to comments.NY lawmaker seeks to prevent Bush pardons of “cronies”
Posted on 11/22/2008 9:23:58 PM PST by paltz
Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-New York and chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties, has authored a resolution demanding that President Bush refrain from issuing pre-emptive pardons of senior officials in his administration during the final 90 days of office.
The resolution, Nadler says, is in response to Bushs widespread abuses of power and potentially criminal transgressions against our Constitution.
The goal, he says, is to prevent undeserved pardons of officials who may have been co-conspirators in the presidents unconstitutional policies, such as torture, illegal surveillance and curtailing of due process for defendants.
This resolution declares that we will not tolerate a last minute attempt by President Bush to shelter his cronies - cronies who may well be guilty of serious criminal offenses - from the full force of the law, says Nadler
The same “defendants” who blew up 3000 people in your congressional district, Jare?
Have another cheeseburger, you fat moron.
Regarding the Bent One’s pardons in the last 90 days of his presidency, Mr. Nadler has absolutely nothing to say.
Where where were you eight years ago when Billy Blob Slick did his thing?
This was to be expected from the party of the Clintons and their pardoning of international criminals and terrorists....
But it was OK for Clinton to pardon fugitives from justice (Mark Rich) and terrorists...
My response: EAT SH!T.
My personal wish: President Bush pardons himself and his admin from all frivolous, wasteful, hateful BS that the left will continue to cook up.
And yes, this includes the last minute Clinton pardons too.
Its constitutional,,, its absolute,, pass all the resolutions you want Nadler.
I hope Bush has the backbone to issue the pardons. The dems made it necessary with their prosecution rhetoric.
Even if he does, they will be tried overseas within 20 years.
Obamy, or one in the future even worse, (a current 29 year old say,,),will sign international criminal court treaty,, then will cooperate with capturing Bush, with solumn words about lettting the system work,,, nobody above the law,,
Oh, go snort another box of Krispy Kremes, you disgusting slob.
Cant pardon until indicted and convicted. Therefore, cant pardon himself.
Do pols like this understand separation of power and pretend it doesn’t exist or are they so dumb they don’t understand it?
It was also in the president’s power to fire all the assistant AGs. Look what those morons in conjunction with the MSM did with that. Why do these people hate the document that made us great so much?
So what does Nadler have to say about O’s selection of Eric Holder as AG? Holder and Bubba pardoned terrorists, among others.
This putz is too stupid to understand that. Not that he’s any stupider than most politicians, though.
hey nadler, you forgot to wipe up, a bit of barney frank is still dripping.
Cant pardon until indicted and convicted. Therefore, cant pardon himself.Nonsense!
"The President . . . shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."
(Article II, Section 2, Clause 1)
Justice Stephen Field wrote in Ex parte Garland (1867), "If granted before conviction, it prevents any of the penalties and disabilities consequent upon conviction from attaching [thereto]; if granted after conviction, it removes the penalties and disabilities, and restores him to all his civil rights; it makes him, as it were, a new man, and gives him a new credit and capacity . A pardon reaches both the punishment prescribed for the offence and the guilt of the offender so that in the eye of the law the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offence."
According to United States v. Klein (1871), Congress cannot limit the President's grant of an amnesty or pardon.
He next offered a second resolution:
“Get in my belly!”
As always... This how the Democrats say thank you for keeping the country safe for all these years. He wants to go after the people who did the heavy lifting in a thankless job.
Clinton on the other hand pardons donors and connected drug dealers making him and his family members wealthy after he leaves office. Not a word.
My dad used call him “Jabba the Hut”. Obviously Nadler doesn’t know the US Constitution.
Thanks for the education I shall research further. ;-)
Obama’s Attorney General job one “Investigate Bush”
In a 07 radio interview Obama promises that one of his first acts as president is going to be to call in his new Attorney General to review every single executive order and if they can find that any laws were broken, accountability would be his Attorney Generals job. He also admits the democrats are currently documenting and investigating the Bush Administration
Also in the Video Eric Holder is insulting Bush. Saying there was NO real leader of the free world for the last 6 years.
. . . So the scorpion says to the frog, "I won't sting you, I need to get across the pond, man."
They can't help it. The Rats can't help it.
It is agreed on all sides, that the powers properly belonging to one of the departments, ought not to be directly and compleatly administered by either of the other departments. It is equally evident, that neither of them ought to possess directly or indirectly, an overruling influence over the others in the administration of their respective powers. It will not be denied, that power is of an encroaching nature, and that it ought to be effectually restrained from passing the limits assigned to it. After discriminating therefore in theory, the several classes of power, as they may in their nature be legislative, executive, or judiciary; the next and most difficult task, is to provide some practical security for each against the invasion of the others. What this security ought to be, is the great problem to be solved.
..that may be a fallacy. The certainty is that he is betting that the typical idiot rat don't and he knows the liberal media won't call him on it
pardons are one power of the president - I don’t think you can stop him.
"...fugitive financier Marc Rich" mediamatters.org
"...notorious California drug dealer" opinionjournal.com
"President Clinton granted 140 pardons -- including one to his own brother.
A vast majority of those who received the last minute pardons are unknown to the public, although the list does include former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Henry Cisneros, Whitewater scandal figure Susan McDougal, Patty Hearst and former CIA Director John Deutch." CNN.com
But reality is very likely to change all that.
First, Obama isn't going to repeal all the “terrible” things Bush did because the buck now stops with him. In addition it is going to be pretty tough chasing Bush when the nation faces so many problems. That isn't very politically operative at the moment. Obama is in for some hard lessons - along with the rest of the country. Bush just may not look so bad in two or three years...
How is that gigantic hole in the ground for the past 7 years in your district doing, Mr Wadler ?
That's not a rule, I'm afraid. Plenty of people have been pardoned without any kind of legal proceedings against them. Thousands and thousands in the case of amnesties....
“This putz is too stupid to understand that. Not that hes any stupider than most politicians, though”
How much longer are we going to tolerate these fools. I am beginning to long for the days when people like Nadler would be given an “attitude adjustment” with a hickory cane or invited to choose their weapon. It seems to have resulted in a more civil society.
I believe pardons are an absolute COnstitutional right of the President ... the COngress can resolve any damned old thing they want. Nadler is such a jerk.
“Cant pardon until indicted and convicted.”
Was Nixon indicted or convicted? I know Ford pardoned him.
He’s just playing to the base, and as usual nobody on the right is going to call him on it, so a certain percentage of the ignorant will believe his lies. The left knows the intellectual capacity of its constituency quite well. Sadly, they also suck in some of the moderate but gullible because the right keeps letting them get away with this kind of crap.
My wish is that he will also word it about like that.
I also would like to see him pardon those two border patrol agents, but IIRC the DA who prosecuted was a Bush “crony.”
“Thanks for the education I shall research further. ;-)”
Include Pres. Nixon in your research. He was never impeached, though it appeared imminent, and was pardoned without any charges being filed (Pres. Ford could have waited to see if a pardon was necessary but chose not to).
My response: EAT SH!T.
I think he got that message a long time ago.
Liberalism is good for you, like muffins.
Bump for later Sunday reading
I hate to go there, but I will: Those Border Agents lied. How hard is it to understand that? These guys are unworthy, but somehow they have followers. I am a police officer who doesn’t lie/screw around, I take my job seriously. Once you lie, don’t expect the posse to swarm protectively.
Sort of like what happens to innocent babies in an abortion, which procedure Obama and the Democrats love so much.