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Obama’s Attorney General: Terrorists Not Protected by Geneva Convention
IsraPundit ^ | 11/23/08 | Bill Levinson

Posted on 11/23/2008 2:54:09 PM PST by Winged Hussar

The Democrats have bleated for years about the detention of illegal combatants at Guantanamo, while the Left and the "international community" have demanded that captured terrorists be treated as prisoners of war. We read in the November 22-23 Wall Street Journal (page A13) that Barack Obama's selected Attorney General, Eric Holder, agrees with us that terrorists are not uniformed combatants who are entitled to the protections of the Geneva Convention. Per an interview on CNN in January 2002,

    One of the things we clearly want to do with these prisoners is to have an ability to interrogate them and find out what their future plans might be, where other cells are located; under the Geneva Convention that you are really limited in the amount of information that you can elicit from people.

    It seems to me that given the way in which they have conducted themselves, however, that they are not, in fact, people entitled to the protection of the Geneva Convention. They are not prisoners of war. If, for instance, Mohammed Atta had survived the attack on the World Trade Center, would we now be calling him a prisoner of war? I think not. Should Zacarias Moussaoui be called a prisoner of war? Again, I think not.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bho2008; bhoag; bhodoj; billevinson; billlevinson; brokepromise; detainees; ericholder; genevaconvention; holder; insurgents; islam; obama; obamatransitionfile; sandnazi; terrorists; terrortrials

1 posted on 11/23/2008 2:54:09 PM PST by Winged Hussar
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To: Winged Hussar

Good. Maybe now we can win the war.


2 posted on 11/23/2008 2:59:49 PM PST by trek
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To: Winged Hussar

Not as easy as you thought it would be, eh, Mr. Obama?


3 posted on 11/23/2008 3:00:06 PM PST by madison10
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To: Winged Hussar

My great aunt use to hang Eric Holder from a hook on her bathroom door. Back then he was a rubber bag with a hose and nozzle.


4 posted on 11/23/2008 3:01:09 PM PST by tumblindice (In this school of war called life...)
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To: madison10

Reality bites :)


5 posted on 11/23/2008 3:03:39 PM PST by NCISAgentJethroGibbs
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To: tumblindice

ROFL


6 posted on 11/23/2008 3:04:16 PM PST by mia
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To: tumblindice

That’s just gross.


7 posted on 11/23/2008 3:05:21 PM PST by madison10
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To: Winged Hussar

Bwhahahahahaha! The Daily Kooks and DUmmies are deeply saddened...


8 posted on 11/23/2008 3:05:34 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: mia

That was then .. this is now ... I don’t believe any of these rats.


9 posted on 11/23/2008 3:07:28 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Winged Hussar

Now that they are in power they are going to have to start acting like adults. They’re going to find out that its a lot easier to be a critic then it is to govern.


10 posted on 11/23/2008 3:08:22 PM PST by Keflavik76 (If NYT (Junk); { Wrap(Fish); Else Read( FR);})
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To: madison10

I’m not cutting Obama or any of his minions any slack at all.
Any idea of Holder’s views, for example, on the 2nd Amendment?


11 posted on 11/23/2008 3:09:17 PM PST by tumblindice (In this school of war called life...)
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To: Winged Hussar

Maybe he listened to Mukasey’s speech last week.


12 posted on 11/23/2008 3:09:57 PM PST by firebrand
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To: trek

Interrogate them, give them a summary court and award a punishment. They should then be shot by a firing squad or hung. Ditto for pirates. The West has lost its will, and we and our children’s children will pay the price in blood.


13 posted on 11/23/2008 3:12:28 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: Winged Hussar

Hey WH, Check out the headlines:

http://www.lucianne.com/main2.asp?fcnt=437338&lcnt=437363&crank=1


14 posted on 11/23/2008 3:12:45 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray)
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To: tumblindice

You don’t want to know. Think ban.


15 posted on 11/23/2008 3:13:23 PM PST by mombrown1 (PA Coordinatior SAS The Second Amendment is the reset button for the Constitution)
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To: Winged Hussar

Do you think he can figure out that combatants are held till the end of war?


16 posted on 11/23/2008 3:13:38 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray)
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To: Winged Hussar

OT: Did you see what MSNBC ‘found’?

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=226883


17 posted on 11/23/2008 3:14:39 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray)
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To: mombrown1

As someone once said, mom, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. We saw the fruits of this just recently with the election of a skinny marxist.
In a month or two Holder will completely reverse himself and parrot the Democratic party—and McCain—position on this issue.


18 posted on 11/23/2008 3:21:03 PM PST by tumblindice (In this school of war called life...)
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To: Winged Hussar

Gee, I can’t believe that Eric Holder actually got a legal question right!


19 posted on 11/23/2008 3:29:03 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Winged Hussar

2002? I’ll bet he’s CHANGED his mind bye now.


20 posted on 11/23/2008 3:29:31 PM PST by MES401067 (Lenin called them "useful idiots" I for one have no use for them.)
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To: Winged Hussar

>>Obama’s selected Attorney General, Eric Holder, agrees with us that terrorists are not uniformed combatants <<

It is not so important how they are classified - what we need to avoid is seeking to find a scenario to deprive any prisoner of human rights and those rights they are intended to have under the constitution as envisioned by the founders plus treaties we depend on to protect the rights of Americans who are captured.


21 posted on 11/23/2008 3:31:03 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: tumblindice

Holder is pretty bad on the 2nd. First, some background.

Back during the first two years of Clinton, the dem congress passed the “Gun Free School Zones” Act (later found to be unconstitutional by SCOTUS). This act made it a felony (federal) to posses any firearmy within 1/4 mile of school property.

Holder was asked to render an official Justice Department opinion on whether this act also applied to home schools. Holder opined that it did. This opinion, had it been enforced, would have rendered it impossible to own a gun in the US. For example, you don’t know who homeschools, if anyone does, in your neighborhood. You have no way of finding out. IOW, keep a gun at home and run the risk of being prosecuted if anyone within 1/4 mile of your house home schools.

BTW, under this act, if you drove by a school with a gun in your car, you were a felon. Want to go hunting? Now find out all the schools along your route. Plot a path staying at least 1/4 mile from each and if you stray within 1/4 mile of someone who home schools, you’re a felon.

That’s an example of Eric Holder and gun rights.


22 posted on 11/23/2008 3:40:03 PM PST by DugwayDuke (What's more important? Your principles or supporting the troops? Vote McCain!)
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To: Winged Hussar

Obama and Democrats lied to win the election.

Why is anybody surprised?


23 posted on 11/23/2008 3:42:56 PM PST by Morgan in Denver (Just Words?)
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To: Winged Hussar

I’d like an apology to the Bush Administration. Like right this BLEEPin’ moment.


24 posted on 11/23/2008 3:45:50 PM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: DugwayDuke

Nice summary. And I believe he wrote an amicus opinion in DC v. Heller supporting the position of the city.
I think we can look forwaqrd to more years of a US attorney general who will seek to reward (or ignore) foreign lawbreakers, while attempting to circumscribe the rights of lawabiding Americans.
He’s a political hack and we’ll fight him every inch of the way.


25 posted on 11/23/2008 3:50:23 PM PST by tumblindice (In this school of war called life...)
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To: DugwayDuke

I am NOT defending Holder. I would still suggest Holder was following Justice Department guidelines and wishes.

No matter what he did before. the real test now will be what he does in the future. No, I’m not giving him a break. I AM, however, demanding he be held accountable now that he will be in charge and responsible for decisions coming from the Justice Department. Janet Reno failed, John Ashcroft passed, the rest are iffy.


26 posted on 11/23/2008 3:53:50 PM PST by Morgan in Denver (Just Words?)
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To: Morgan in Denver

“I am NOT defending Holder. I would still suggest Holder was following Justice Department guidelines and wishes.”

Don’t you think the Constitution is more important that Justice Department guidlines and wishes?


27 posted on 11/24/2008 3:16:13 AM PST by DugwayDuke (What's more important? Your principles or supporting the troops? Vote McCain!)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

I’ve been saying for a long time that should have started doing that very early on, before we were even in Iraq, with some of the guys captured in Afghanistan.

Notice that the Indian Navy didn’t mess around with the pirates. I’m sure they didn’t have six lawyers writing their Rules of Engagement, and worrying about the niceties of habeas corpus was not high on their priority list as they were feeding the pirate corpuses to the fishes.


28 posted on 11/24/2008 3:36:10 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Yes, I do but the Democrats don’t. They live in a world of make believe. Just as sadly, John Ashcroft and President Bush must not have had a problem with the pardons or prior actions since nobody was held accountable in 2000 or 2001.


29 posted on 11/24/2008 5:02:45 AM PST by Morgan in Denver (Just Words?)
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To: Morgan in Denver

How does one hold someone responsible for a Presidential pardon? That power of the President to pardon is unrestricted and not subject to review.


30 posted on 11/24/2008 5:05:56 AM PST by DugwayDuke (What's more important? Your principles or supporting the troops? Vote McCain!)
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To: Winged Hussar

I suggest we use sarin or VX gas on them - the kind that causes convulsions so severe it snaps bones likes twigs. Now that’s my idea of a dance party - 4 or 5 hundred thousand militant Islamist sand Nazis doing that horizontal “break” dance all in one shot. I bet it would feel like a stampede.


31 posted on 11/24/2008 7:38:05 AM PST by dbz77
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To: tumblindice; Winged Hussar
Any idea of Holder’s views, for example, on the 2nd Amendment?
Henry Hyde shares his views.
32 posted on 11/24/2008 7:41:25 AM PST by dbz77
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To: DugwayDuke

This is the problem. There are few standards for a Presidential pardon.

As far as I know there is NO recourse to a Presidential pardon. Clinton’s pardons were a slam dunk but the media refuses to address what he did. President Bush has refused to issue very many pardons, even when he should.


33 posted on 11/24/2008 5:05:49 PM PST by Morgan in Denver (Just Words?)
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To: Winged Hussar

BUMP FOR LATER


34 posted on 01/27/2009 1:31:57 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: trek

You do understand that Holder is just talking about American gun owners and NRA members, right?


35 posted on 01/27/2009 1:42:59 PM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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