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Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | Nov. 23, 2008 | John Brummett

Posted on 11/23/2008 6:02:47 PM PST by redk

People wonder why Mike Huckabee would come out with a book that violates Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment, which is not to criticize another Republican, and trashes the wholly deserving Mitt Romney.

Is it that Huckabee wants to get Romney out of the way so that he can emerge pre-emptively as the GOP alternative to Sarah Palin in 2012?

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Well I'm glad at least one media outlet is admitting to what they plan to set up.
1 posted on 11/23/2008 6:02:47 PM PST by redk
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To: redk

Brummet isn’t even from Vegas. He is as stupid as a brick, I don’t know why he isn’t pushing a broom.


2 posted on 11/23/2008 6:05:19 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: redk

I have nothing against the guy but , when I watch him or listen to him , he gives me the creeps ~ it’s like he is trying to please everyone.


3 posted on 11/23/2008 6:07:56 PM PST by antonia ("Be the person your dog thinks you are....")
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To: antonia

Huckleberry has gone about as far as he can go. He can do what he wants but he’s just too wishy washy. We will not elect a religious dude like this.


4 posted on 11/23/2008 6:10:47 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: antonia

He acts like most do-gooders act. Sort of kissing your ass even while he looks down his nose at you.


5 posted on 11/23/2008 6:10:57 PM PST by csmusaret (I'd rather have a sister in a whorehouse than have a brother in the US Congress.)
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To: redk
Many fine folks live in Arkansas.but for some reason they have a tendency to elect true filthbags.Several of whom have recently served as Governor.
6 posted on 11/23/2008 6:11:24 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: redk

huckabee suckabee.

He’s a grifter who saw how successful Billy Jeff was in AR and tried they same play in the republican party. He got outflanked by McCain.

Untrustworthy charlatan! (sp?)


7 posted on 11/23/2008 6:12:34 PM PST by hotshu (Words are good in a polite society, bullets may become necessary in an uncivil one.)
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To: antonia

Anyone else notice how much Huckster and his wife look alike? That creeps me out.


8 posted on 11/23/2008 6:14:53 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: hotshu; All

Sorry Huckabee job was to help McCain win the primary..


9 posted on 11/23/2008 6:18:09 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: redk

Huckabee reminds me of an old carnival barker/con-man.

I tried to watch his show, it was one left-wing nut job after another.

Besides, he is an assh@le.


10 posted on 11/23/2008 6:20:31 PM PST by stockpirate (At least Code Pink goes OUT & FIGHTS for what they belleve in!!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
We will not elect a religious dude like this.

I'm a former clergydude and I'm upset by this remark. I think I'd make an awesome prexydint.

I would flip a coin every time anyone asked me for a decision. Chances are I'd do better than any prexydint since early 1989.

11 posted on 11/23/2008 6:20:48 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: redk
The Huckster bites but LEAVE MATT ALONE

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The whining about poor downtrodden Mitt is pretty tiresome.
12 posted on 11/23/2008 6:25:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Mad Dawg

You cut me to the quick! I think a Clergy Dude would make a great president BUT he will never be elected. The Liberals would turn the election into the Scolps Monkey Trial all over again.


13 posted on 11/23/2008 6:26:38 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: redk

BTTT


14 posted on 11/23/2008 6:28:30 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: redk

RE the GOP alternative to Sarah Palin in 2012

OK, this keeps on coming up. Is Palin supposed to be our nominee. I really like her and was very happy when McCain picker her but, is this a joke? Sounds like the Fred Thompson will save us belief. Lets have Sarah as maybe Senator to get some national experience. I do NOT want to see this sweet woman ripped to pieces.


15 posted on 11/23/2008 6:29:17 PM PST by sickoflibs (Democrats for Issues, Republicans for Solutions (sometimes really bad) , which wins elections?)
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To: cripplecreek
We had a guy like the Mitbots in our office ~ we got rumors of an impending RIF. He got the idea that if he could bait others into really nasty arguments, and then run to the boss with a complaint about them, he would enhance his standing and get an extra 15 points.

About half of us were veterans so he didn't have a chance.

16 posted on 11/23/2008 6:30:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: sickoflibs; redk

RE the GOP alternative to Sarah Palin in 2012

OK, this keeps on coming up. Is Palin supposed to be our nominee? I really like her and was very happy when McCain picked her, but is this a joke? Sounds like the ‘if only Fred Thompson will save us’ unrealistic belief. Lets have Sarah as maybe Senator to get some national experience. I do NOT want to see this sweet woman ripped to pieces.


17 posted on 11/23/2008 6:31:46 PM PST by sickoflibs (Democrats for Issues, Republicans for Solutions (sometimes really bad) , which wins elections?)
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To: csmusaret

“He acts like most do-gooders act. Sort of kissing your ass even while he looks down his nose at you.”

That’s it. You got it exactly right.


18 posted on 11/23/2008 6:32:50 PM PST by antonia ("Be the person your dog thinks you are....")
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To: antonia

I know this will make some people mad, but to me Huckabee acts like a typical preacher.


19 posted on 11/23/2008 6:34:55 PM PST by csmusaret (I'd rather have a sister in a whorehouse than have a brother in the US Congress.)
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To: sickoflibs

Yeah I would hate to see the media take the kid gloves that they have thus far handled her with off.


20 posted on 11/23/2008 6:35:49 PM PST by redk
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To: muawiyah

No kidding. They’ve started to sound like homosexuals, black reperationists and amnesty supporters all rolled into one. Poor poor Mitt and his downtrodden supporters.


21 posted on 11/23/2008 6:40:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Working against the grain and trying to be serious here, I think you're right. It was bad enuff when Dubya said IHS was his favorite philosopher.. (I don't think IHS was a philosopher, but it's okay; I knew what he meant.)

But someone who had actually spent part of his life acting on the premise that there just might possibly be a right and wrong that included something more than tolerance would be swimming upstream against a flood of media and academic bias.

22 posted on 11/23/2008 6:40:57 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: csmusaret

Might not ring a bell with the Mormon Mitbots though ~ maybe more like the religious fellow in the Simpsons ~ Ned Flanders.


23 posted on 11/23/2008 6:42:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: redk

Huckabee reminds me of Lamar Alexander—a guy who made a career out of campaigning for President. No thanks.


24 posted on 11/23/2008 6:46:44 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: redk

Huckabee can forget about getting enough votes to be President. That family portrait of him and his two trouble-making sons doing their impression of Haystacks Calhoun...... yikes.


25 posted on 11/23/2008 7:00:44 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: sickoflibs

“”Lets have Sarah as maybe Senator to get some national experience.””

Yes, you’re so right - I like her, too, but she needs WAY more experience on several levels if she has presidential aspirations.

It’s horrible enough facing having BHO (gag) as president - lack of experience/ability, with values/motives detrimental/destructive for our country. The next time we conservatives/republicans have a real shot, it MUST be someone who is spot-on - really spot-on. That’s if there even exists an opportunity of ANY kind, because I worry all the time that this country won’t be the same (if at all) in four years under B. Hussein.


26 posted on 11/23/2008 7:13:10 PM PST by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: redk

Huckabee should go away. He has no chance in four years.


27 posted on 11/23/2008 7:38:35 PM PST by ElCid89 (Choose Substance)
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To: redk

Mike Huckabee is the first Presidential aspirant since George Wallace to be an open bigot. Huckabee’s bigotry is against Mormons. Huckabee could never be President of a country with laws against discrimination based upon race, religion or national origin.


28 posted on 11/23/2008 7:42:30 PM PST by svxdave (Life is too short to wear a fake Rolex.)
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To: sickoflibs

Since when did a senator get more experience than a governor? I believe that the job of President is in the executive branch like that of governor.Senators are too compromised as mcnutts sure as hell proved.


29 posted on 11/23/2008 7:42:50 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: sickoflibs

“Lets have Sarah as maybe Senator to get some national experience.”


So governors should serve as senators now to prepare for a run for the chief executive office?
A senator may have won this election but I think that governor is still the best back ground and launching platform for a presidential run.


30 posted on 11/23/2008 7:46:52 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: redk

As I said earlier, Huckabee is positioning himself to be the “leader” of the Republicans, or the Conservatives. He has been rewarded with a show on FOX. He obviously has delusions of grandeur. I happened to be channel surfing and saw Dan Rather on his show — Huckabee consorting with the enemy — and I quickly continued on. Anyone who watches Huckabee is the same kind of person who voted for McCain in the primary.


31 posted on 11/23/2008 8:06:49 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: redk

“Neither HuckabeeIs it that Huckabee wants to get Romney out of the way so that he can emerge pre-emptively as the GOP alternative to Sarah Palin in 2012?”
Neither Huckabee nor Romney can hold a candle to Palin. In trying, they will result to liberal tactics and betray both themselves and their fan clubs. Sarah is the “real deal”. They are not.


32 posted on 11/23/2008 8:37:23 PM PST by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Dubya said IHS was his favorite philosopher

IHS is the greatest Philosopher to ever appear on the scene.

Why don't you like IHS?

33 posted on 11/23/2008 8:59:46 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: svxdave
Huckabee’s bigotry is against Mormons.

Nope.

Nice try.

34 posted on 11/23/2008 9:01:27 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: redk

Huckabee and Romney deserve each other. Can we put them in a room until they bore each other to death?

The Republican Party has to come up with something better than either one of these two, or they can kiss the next election good bye, too.


35 posted on 11/23/2008 9:03:45 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
No one should give Rather any exposure at all.

It gives him "legitimacy" and he has lost any that he ever had.

I'm going to have to call Mikie on this.

36 posted on 11/23/2008 9:04:02 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: wgflyer
They will continue to try to destroy her as the GOP doesn't want a good conservative President.

Palin is what this country needs.

I notice that many posters here are using the talking points of the GOP/DNC to try to marginalize Palin because they know that she is more electable than any of them.

Plus she is a conservative. The GOP hates that in a politician.

37 posted on 11/23/2008 9:08:16 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: redk

This guy has Huckabee completely figured out.


38 posted on 11/23/2008 9:58:07 PM PST by littlehouse36 (http://www.howobamagotelected.com/)
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To: Syncro
Why don't you like IHS?

Before you repeat that allegation, maybe you'd like to (a) reread what I wrote, (b)consider the relationship between jumping to conclusions and Christian charity, (c) consider whether the "have you stopped beating your wife" sort of quesiton is compatible with the Christian walk, and (d) consider apologizing.

May your walk today be ever closer to IHS.

39 posted on 11/24/2008 3:38:00 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: redk
Myth Romney and his Legion of Liberals, Backstabbers, Bigots, Chameleons, and LEO Impersonators.

"I'm not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values.
That's not what brings me to the race.

(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)


"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
 over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
 to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldn’t make any sense at all.""

--  President Ronald Reagan


I'm very clear I think, to the people across the Commonwealth
my "R" didn't stand so much for Republican as it does for reform.
"
(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)


"A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
 which must not be compromised to political expediency
or simply to swell its numbers."

--  President Ronald Reagan



40 posted on 11/24/2008 4:39:59 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: ansel12; imahawk; llandres; redk; Goldie Lurks

RE :”So governors should serve as senators now to prepare for a run for the chief executive office” “Since when did a senator get more experience than a governor? I believe that the job of President is in the executive branch like that of governor.Senators are too compromised as mcnutts sure as hell proved.” “Yeah I would hate to see the media take the kid gloves that they have thus far handled her with off.”

It’s not just experience, it’s about winning. It’s PR. Two years ago I posted that we need a Republican who is conservative and can communicate, and got a bunch of angry replies that communication was not necessary, just GWB vetos. So now we lost two elections.

I do NOT want to see her ripped apart again. You may not like the media attacks, but they did draw blood outside of conservative circles. You do want her to win dont you?

Lastly, Couric asked her a very predictable question “what qualifies you to be commander and chief?”, and she gave a little joke about Russia that was mocked all over TV. Now what if she had answered following ?” I am a governor like Reagan who won cold war. When will the media ask BoB that same question? I am more ready than BoB but he is never asked” But she didnt.


41 posted on 11/24/2008 5:33:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (Democrats for Issues, Republicans for Solutions (sometimes really bad) , which wins elections?)
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To: sickoflibs

I didn’t understand your post, and what was the little joke about Russia that Palin told Couric?


42 posted on 11/24/2008 7:28:06 AM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: Syncro
“Plus she is a conservative. The GOP hates that in a politician.”

Let us hope that those trying to rebuild GOP in a conservative vein are not just blowing smoke (like last time). It is up to us to let them know that we no longer accept liberal Republicans. Period. No more “lessers of evil”.

43 posted on 11/24/2008 7:30:48 AM PST by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: ansel12

RE : “what was the little joke about Russia that Palin told Couric?

Her reply was not the obvious one I suggested that most FResr think of, it was : “I can see Russia (or Putin) outside my window..” that most people saw in an SNL clip. (I blame McCain’s people on this BTW, they prepped her.)

I am saying you cant run as a conservative Christian and expect to not be able to answer questions like this in a strategic way that are not easy to parody. It’s not about Biden’s slips, not about fairness. It’s about winning. Hillary strategically was on the Senate military committee, for politics. I talk to non-Frers non-Palin lovers and this media stuff sold. It’s a fact. Republicans need to think strategically and what sells, and how to sell it, not just what they believe (what they WISH)


44 posted on 11/24/2008 8:28:15 AM PST by sickoflibs (Democrats for Issues, Republicans for Solutions (sometimes really bad) , which wins elections?)
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To: sickoflibs

“Lastly, Couric asked her a very predictable question “what qualifies you to be commander and chief?”, and she gave a little joke about Russia that was mocked all over TV.”


I still don’t understand you, did she make the joke or not, what was it?


45 posted on 11/24/2008 8:39:13 AM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: muawiyah
We had a guy like the Mitbots in our office ~ we got rumors of an impending RIF. He got the idea that if he could bait others into really nasty arguments, and then run to the boss with a complaint about them, he would enhance his standing and get an extra 15 points.

I don't understand the mentality of people who would attempt things like that just to hold on to a transient commodity like "my job". I think they are just competing out of instinct, with no clear concept of what they are really fighting for. But someone who publicly displays such instinctive, unthinking behavior should be fired immediately, anyway - he'll do something to screw up the company at some point.

46 posted on 11/24/2008 8:47:58 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Mad Dawg
Well, you were a bit condescending of Bush with your statement "Dubya said IHS was his favorite philosopher"

Before you repeat that allegation

It was a question, not an allegation. I don't generally repeat myself unless some one didn't understand it. In this case, it still doesn't need to be repeated.

You can answer it or not, it really doesn't matter to me.

...maybe you'd like to (a) reread what I wrote

OK, I did.

...b)consider the relationship between jumping to conclusions and Christian charity

Ahh, I think that is what you did. Ironic.

(c) consider whether the "have you stopped beating your wife" sort of quesiton is compatible with the Christian walk

I wouldn't ask you that, I know nothing of your domestic history.

...and (d) consider apologizing.

It seems there is some kind of misunderstanding here, care to clear it up?

Oh, and it might help to explain what IHS stands for.

Thanks

47 posted on 11/24/2008 10:44:19 AM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Syncro
Okay. Let's go carefully here. You said
Why don't you like IHS?

Your question contains and conveys the almost explicit premise that I don't "like IHS." Your question would make no sense if you thought I do "like IHS."
Are we clear on that?

If so, then it is an allegation that I do not "like IHS." Hence the complaint about an allegation.

Two things follow:
(1)You did indeed allege that I do not "like IHS."
(2)The question is of the form typified by the question, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" That is, it appears to be a question but actually conveys a charge, an allegation, which may or may not be true.

I am saying that there is nothing in what I wrote to suggest whether or not I "like IHS." What I did write was the I do not consider IHS a philosopher. He is much, much more. He is, among other more important things, the answer to the questions of the Philsophers and the Truth for which they seek, whether theyu know that they seek Him or not.

Also there is no condescension in my reporting the FACT that Dubya said the IHS was his favorite philosopher. I do not have condescension for Dubya. I disagree with him on some things (like whether IHS is a philosopher), but I admire his piety and fidelity.

So it seems there were two assumptions: (1)That I do not "like IHS," and (2) that I think I am somehow superior to Dubya so that I can condescend to him, (since the root sense of condescend is "go down to be with [someone].")

So I did not jump to conclusions. I look at what you wrote in your first message, to wit: Why don't you like IHS? and considered the meaning of the words you used.

So I have dealt with the questions of allegation, of my jumping to conclusions, and with the nonsense about domestic history. What else?

Okay, misunderstanding: A) Something led you to ask why I don't like IHS.
B) That suggests that you think that I don't like IHS, right? You asked a question which implied that thought, right?
So the misunderstanding is your implication (whether intended or not) that I do not like IHS.

IHS is a conventional and old abbreviation of the Greek Word ΙΗΣΟΥΣ. The Greek majuscule Sigma, conventionally written as Σ, is written at the end of words and in minuscule as ς. So there's a kind of graphic drift toward our sinuous "S" shape already in Greek, and as the old abbreviation gets Latinized the sigma becomes an S.

There, I've tried to track down the questions the best I could. Let me know my errors, please.

48 posted on 11/24/2008 12:05:52 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: sickoflibs
Her reply was not the obvious one I suggested that most FResr think of, it was : “I can see Russia (or Putin) outside my window..” that most people saw in an SNL clip.

Yes, something like that was in the SNL clip and it was a gross distortion from what she really said which was that you could see Russia from Alaska.

Her point was that if Russia started action in the area between Alaska and Russia the branch of the Military that she commands would report it to her right away.

Being as many people get their "news" from SNL and Jon Stewart they think what ever they put out there is the truth, especially if it can be twisted to denigrate a Conservative.

49 posted on 11/24/2008 12:44:46 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Mad Dawg
You are much too intelligent for me to converse with on a pratical level.

You described I.H.S. as a philosopher.

I asked you what I.H.S. stands for.

You have shown your intellectual bone fides, now what is the name of the philosopher with the initials "I.H.S"? (I put periods after the initials to make it clearer)

Yes I know he is much more than a philosopher, I managed to get that from you dissertation.

50 posted on 11/24/2008 12:58:38 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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