Posted on 11/23/2008 11:52:58 PM PST by Chet 99
By Brian Chasnoff - Express-News
A conflict over a stray dog escalated into a firefight around noon Sunday in a North Bexar County neighborhood.
About 20 rounds were fired between two groups of people in an entrance to an apartment building in the 7600 block of Windsor Oaks. Two men, ages 18 and 19, each were shot in the foot and taken to a hospital with non-life threatening injuries, Bexar County Sgt. David Kilcrease said.
Both parties were returning fire at each other, Kilcrease said.
The shooters were arguing over ownership of a pit bull that roams the neighborhood. The animal could not be located on Sunday, and investigators had not found the shooters who fled.
Just once I’d like to see a photo of one of the “Dogs of Peace” mentioned in one of these articles.
Owner:
1) white trash/meth head
2) illegal gangbanger
3) black drug dealer
Any guesses? I am not familiar with that part of San Antonio.
:-\
Here come the pit bull apologists.
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The only smart animal in the bunch was the pit bull.
20 rounds fired and two shot in the foot. Proof those sights work well when the gun is held sideways.
Pit Bulls are akin to wild animals such as foxes, mountain Lions, alligators and Wolves.
Special licensing should apply to own this species but my
hunch is it would be considered discrimination.
Since these animals are allowed in my city I want open carry laws for handguns.
> Since these animals are allowed in my city I want open carry laws for handguns.
A 14” Bowie knife might be a better bet. Shoot at one of them mungrels and it might not die (as this story shows). Hack off its head or fillet it chin-to-groin with a Bowie knife, and that’s guaranteed to kill it stone dead.
San Antonio
Came up against one of these critters once, stabbed it three times after shooting it twice with both barrels, point blank. Finally had to call in air support. Napalm took it out.
(big grin!) I’m a flame-thrower man, myself. Keep a couple Mills Bombs in my pockets, for back-up. And a Harley revved up and idling nearby, just in case a hasty retreat is needed...
A firefight, with assault weapons, erupted over a pit bull, assault dog, and the perps escaped ... if they made their getaway in a Chevrolet Tahoe, assault SUV, we would have the makings of one heck of a song.
We have a pit bull. We adopted her from the shelter when she was six months old. She will be fifteen years old on her next birthday. She has never bitten anyone. She loves kids. She is a pussy cat. You intimate that people should be able to shoot these dogs — and the implication is MY dog, as well — on sight. I suggest you re-think your comment, because anyone who goes after my dog with such evil intent will get the business end of a .357 Magnum.
My question is why did the give the pit bulls guns? ; )
(big grin!!)
Nobody started it?

"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
If pit bulls were banned, gangbangers wouldn't shoot each other in the foot!! Ban pit bulls now!!!!
(big grin!) 1986 was a great year!
Sounds like a typical pit bull owner.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I have “known” dozens of these dogs over the last 40 years, both good ones and bad, and the one thing that I can say with absolute certainty, these animals are exactly like children in so many ways.
With kids and with pit bulls, you get what you raise. I f you want a dangerous, even deadly, out of control animal, much like those idiots who shot themselves in their feet, raise it that way. Just like the parents of those gang bangers.
The breed is incredibly smart, resourceful, incredibly brave, absolutely loyal, and aggressive. The one thing he is not is vicious but given his intelligence and his strong desire to please his master, he can easily be trained to be, just like kids.
Like yourself ought-six, if you mess with my dogs, you may as well be messing with my kids, we can’t see the difference in my family
You got a problem with pit bull owners buddy?
....or any dog lover.
Shoot it multiple times, until it stops being a threat-most of us would not carry a single shot anything.
On the other hand, using a knife would require a little more proximity than most of us would care to enjoy-bad breath and all.
Seriously, a well-placed shot to the head if time and situation allow (or in lieu of that, many rapidly applied hits to any part) would be much more effective and safer than an attempt at eviceration on the fly....
God Bless and MOLON LABE
self-ping (so I can come back to watch the fight after I pop the corn)
Only if it were a country song.
If it had been a Cadillac Escalade it would be hip hop.
Chevy pickup, country or maybe Norteño.
That is, of course, unless your single-shot is one of these:
http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/g2ContenderPistols.php
(Which I have never owned, but have had the pleasure(?) of firing 50 rounds through in .44Mag. It’s a gun you don’t want to be on either end of.)
> The breed is incredibly smart, resourceful, incredibly brave, absolutely loyal, and aggressive.
“Aggression” is a highly undesirable trait in any dog. Most credible breeders breed Aggression out of their lines.
Did they shoot each other in the foot, or did they shoot themselves in the foot? That is the most entertaining part of this story.
we got pitbulls and guns, we just need cigarettes and tattoos to finisht the thread :)
That area of San Antonio is heavily Black with a substantial Hispanic population. Lots of gang activity. Most of it is old poorly built Ray Ellison subdivisions and similar subdivisions that are now rental property. It’s widely considered one of the most dangerous parts of San Antonio.
> You got a problem with pit bull owners buddy?
All Pit Bull owners I’ve met are irresponsible bad-headed crims and scroats who spend their time burglarizing and robbing banks when they’re not smoking up P-Methamphetamine or slapping their wives/girlfriends/daughters around or selling crack to kids or cooling their heels in Mount Eden Gaol or on the lam running away from the cops or collecting kiddie porn or peddling in vice and dam’nation.
To them, their untrained vicious Pit Bull mutt is a weapon and a status symbol.
These owners and mutts are a menace to society and a danger to themselves and to others, a ticking time-bomb waiting to go off.
Would you have a problem with owners such as these?
“Chevy pickup, country or maybe Norteño.”
By golly, I like it, Norteño or Ranchera would be ideal, we could even make the vehicle a Suburban, stolen from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers, that would be perfect .... ay ay ay ay ay ay!
Wow, sounds like you need to start hanging out in a little bit better part of the neighborhood!
Isn’t this where Armando Montelongo flips houses?
ROTFLMAO. Now, pit bulls cause gunfire. You people really need to get a life.
“That is, of course, unless your single-shot is one of these”
Used to have one, .256 mag. (necked down .357 mag) with a bull barrel (2.5 scope on it). it was a deadly varmint gun.
ha ha ha ha ha ha....
Lets see,
I smoke indonesian clove cigarrettes on the weekend (I’m a weinie, a pack last me a month)....AND I have a tat.
ah ha, but no pit bull or bullets or suv :)
>>>we got pitbulls and guns, we just need cigarettes and tattoos to finisht the thread<<<<<
Throw in Harley-Davidson and you’ll be here all day.
I think the ones in question are those that like to chew on people.
Also, no animal is worth comparing to a human-none. If you kill a person who is threatening your dog or other livestock (all things being equal-no threat to you etc), you will be guilty of murder, if someone kills your dog (nonthreatening) they will likely be guilty of destruction of private property, perhaps cruelty to an animal. Think that is comparative value?
PETA thinks that a rat is a dog is a pig is a boy; I am certain you do not.
God Bless and MOLON LABE
>>>I smoke indonesian clove cigarrettes on the weekend<<<<
HIPPIE!
And if that .357 doesn’t do the job, try a Mossberg 12 gauge pump with pistol grip, a stainless steel model should work. If you’re really serious get a couple of ninja’s for backup and even some old-school Shawnees for good measure.
Napalm is good but as a previous poster pointed out for some real standoff the tactical nuke can’t be beat.
You've never seen a Beagle on the scent, a Bloodhound trailing someone, or a well trained K-9 German Shepherd working over a suspect.
Aggression is a critical trait for many breeds. Pointers and Retreivers in particular. If they aren't aggressive towards game, they're pretty much couch dogs.
L
Okay, some outdoor writers etc hunt with a SS, but notice they are hunting either non-dangerous game or have a guide/PH with major firepower handy if the SS fails to stop the beastie.
Ever see a Soldier or a cop with a SS? Even a sniper??
Me neither. Do what the pros do-there’s a reason!
God Bless and MOLON LABE
On the other hand, if that's all you have, aim small, miss small, but never never miss big!!!!!
Yeah...gotta be the dog's fault.
> or a well trained K-9 German Shepherd working over a suspect.
I respectfully disagree. (One of the few times I have disagreed with you, L.)
I am a German Shepherd trainer. Aggression is not a good trait in a Shepherd, and I won’t tolerate it in any dog that I own. Drive, yes definitely. Aggression, no. If the Shepherd is going to assert itself, it must do so when I tell it to, and it must stop immediately when I tell it to. There is no room for Aggressive behavior. Ever. Not even in a K9 Police dog — or more accurately, especially not.
Aggression is usually a sign of fear, or territoriality, or nervousness, or excessive preditor drive, or excessive dominance, or a few other drivers. The only one that I might consider acceptable is sexual aggression from a bitch in heat: she can’t help her hormones.
I am the Alpha Male: I and I alone will decide how my dog shall behave. An Aggressive dog will have a definite problem with that.
A Shepherd is a medium-large dog, and if they are fit they are all bone-and-fur-and-muscle-and-teeth: extremely strong with explosive energy. If my current prodigy wants to, she can pull me over, right off my feet, and escape my control: and I am well over 200 lbs. You do not want that kind of power running loose at the best of times: most especially not if it is Aggressive.
An aggressive K-9 Police dog? No way: the City and the Police would get sued so fast it would make their heads spin. The K9 will assert itself on command, but you can bet his handler is in complete control and that the dog is completely calm.
To a certain degree, Aggression is a training issue. It is also a breeding issue, and a breeder who breeds aggressive Shepherds is doing himself and the breed a serious dissevice.
IMO what I’ve just said here should probably apply for all breeds, not just German Shepherds: I can’t envisage any legitimate reason why it wouldn’t.
You don’t need to take my word for it though: do a Google on “Aggression in Dogs” and convince yourself. More dog owners need to understand this, because it is important. Aggression is a leading cause of pet dogs being destroyed.
Which is why I’ve spelled it out in bollix-aching-detail in this post.
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