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Senate runoff seen favoring Chambliss
Washington Times ^ | Nov. 24, 2008 | S.A. Miller

Posted on 11/24/2008 6:42:56 PM PST by Al B.

ATLANTA | Democrat Jim Martin is campaigning feverishly, aided by Barack Obama's grass-roots organization from the presidential race and a flood of support from the national party, but he remains an underdog against incumbent Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss in a Georgia runoff election considered pivotal for the balance of power in the U.S. Senate.

Mr. Martin is behind in polls, has half the cash of his opponent and early-voting turnout among black voters is stagnating - a crucial block for any Democrat in this mostly conservative state where Republicans also hold the other U.S. Senate seat, the governor's office and majorities in both houses of the state General Assembly.

That doesn't bode well for Mr. Martin and Senate Democrats eyeing an unexpected victory Tuesday to put them one vote away from a filibuster-breaking 60-vote majority and the power to ram the party's agenda through the chamber.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 111th; chambliss; electioncongress; electionussenate; ga2008; senate
Rudy Giuliani will be in GA tomorrow for Chambliss.
1 posted on 11/24/2008 6:42:56 PM PST by Al B.
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To: Al B.

I hope the GOP leaning state that went McCain will be sensible enough not to give Obama a super majority in the Senate. Unfortunately, in this crazy election cycle, ya never know.


2 posted on 11/24/2008 6:45:48 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Al B.

I heard recently that there is a PAC to which we can donate to help Chambliss. I wish that I could remember what the name of the organisation is.


3 posted on 11/24/2008 6:45:52 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

www.goptrust.com


4 posted on 11/24/2008 6:47:12 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: ilgipper

Martin cannot win without overwhelming black turnout, and that does not appear to be happening in the early voting. Moreover, Obama is not going to put his reputation on the line to campaign for Martin, which would be his one chance for an upset win.


5 posted on 11/24/2008 6:50:30 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: Al B.
Early voting should be made illegal because it is against the Constitution that specifies one day to be elections day. I strongly believe that one of the most important factor if not the most important factor that we lost this elections because of early voting. It is a a certain ground for cheating and fraud.

Most of the battleground states were lost because of the early voting. The democrats amassed the necessary votes in the early voting to win. That is how they won Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, Nevada, and Virginia. Without the early voting I am confident that they would have lost.

The Republicans who control state legislatures should make it illegal to have early voting in their states. Also our side should go the courts and make this fraud process totally illegal on the national level.

6 posted on 11/24/2008 6:52:48 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss in a Georgia runoff election considered pivotal for the balance of power in the U.S. Senate. Mr. Martin is behind in polls, has half the cash of his opponent and early-voting turnout among black voters is stagnating -- a crucial block for any Democrat in this mostly conservative state where Republicans also hold the other U.S. Senate seat, the governor's office and majorities in both houses of the state General Assembly.
Goodnight all.
7 posted on 11/24/2008 7:04:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: Al B.
We ALL need to pray for Saxby's safety!!!

the loons are capable of pulling ANYTHING at this point.

Just ONE seat from tyranny!!!

8 posted on 11/24/2008 7:10:28 PM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: Al B.
Much was made of white racism in the general election. Would white voters really vote for a black man? Would there be a "Bradley Effect"?

Curiously enough, and you may draw your own conclusions, nothing was made of black racism. Not only did Obama score something like 96-98% of the black vote, but the black turnout was massive. And, of course, the huge black turnout for Obama had a profound influence down the ballot, as a great deal of straight-ticket voting was involved.

It will be interesting to see what happens with a honkey at the top of the Dem ticket in the Georgia Senate runoff. I'm betting there will be a substantial falloff in black turnout, leading to a comfortable win for Chambliss.

9 posted on 11/24/2008 7:14:36 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (May contain traces of tree nuts.)
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To: Al B.

If Martin is campaigning feverishly, you wouldn’t know it from the phone calls I’ve been receiving...they’ve almost all been from Saxby Chambliss.


10 posted on 11/24/2008 7:22:11 PM PST by Amelia
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To: southernnorthcarolina
I'm betting there will be a substantial falloff in black turnout, leading to a comfortable win for Chambliss.

According to another article I saw today, black turnout in the early voting so far is 23% of the total, down from 31% in the general.

11 posted on 11/24/2008 7:22:59 PM PST by Al B.
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To: Al B.

That’s great journalism. The writer says the runoff favors Chambliss yet the writer does not quote or cite a poll. The last poll I saw a week or so ago said Chambliss was up by 4. I would imagine Martin will have a hard time getting the first time Obama voters who only registered to vote for Obama.


12 posted on 11/24/2008 7:29:06 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (Na na na na na na na na hey ALAN good-bye!!!!!!!)
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To: Army Air Corps

http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/index.html


13 posted on 11/24/2008 7:31:40 PM PST by USAF70
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To: Amelia
Somehow the Obama campaign got hold of my telephone number, and they have called me TWICE trying to get me to vote for that idiot Martin.

What a joke. The only reason I can think of is that in 2002 I voted in a Democratic primary so I could help throw out Billy McKinney (Jihad Cindy's daddy - he was trounced in the primary 65% to 35%, and of course he blamed the Israeli lobby and claimed his opponent was Jewish).

I'm not happy with Chambliss because of his immigration shenanigans, but as I told the RNC person who called here, the alternative is far, far worse.

14 posted on 11/24/2008 7:32:11 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary - recess appointment))
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To: ilgipper

Chambliss ran much poorer in Georgia than McCain primarily because of a blunder by the Republican Governor who made a significant misstep against retired teachers. They felt betrayed because the teachers were the one of the primary reasons Republicans took control of the Governor’s Office in 2002 and the legislature in 2002 & 2004. Hard to believe teachers would be so anti Democrat but the former Democratic Governor made them that mad. They teachers could not take it out on Governor Perdue so Chambliss became the target of many to send the GOP a message in the state.

The message worked and the Governor and his appointees backed off the change in teacher retirement pay.

Unfortunately it almost cost us the Senate seat.


15 posted on 11/24/2008 7:35:29 PM PST by georgiarat (You can get so well educated in America that your thoughts become detached from common sense. PN)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Most of the calls I've gotten have been from Saxby's campaign, including two "surveys"....

I recall one or two calls from the AFL/CIO, but most have been from the GOP, and most have been pre-recorded so there wasn't a real person to argue with. I've let the answering machine get about half of them, though.

16 posted on 11/24/2008 8:12:35 PM PST by Amelia
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To: Amelia
I think in my case it's out of town canvassers not understanding an odd wrinkle in Atlanta politics.

Our 3 precincts are in Billy McKinney's old district because the former Dem governor got mad at us for voting for his opponent (he was a Cobb Countian and I suppose he thought we were obligated to vote for him as a homeboy) and redistricted us right into Billy's bailiwick.

So if you just look at a district map, you'd think this would be a hotbed of Obama voters. But other than a few brain-dead liberals with more money than wits, this is a pretty solid conservative area.

17 posted on 11/24/2008 8:17:03 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary - recess appointment))
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To: Al B.

...would the GOP even use a filibuster if it could?

In the past there is always some “gang of (fill in number here)” that put the screws to it, lead by Republicans (usually McCain).


18 posted on 11/24/2008 8:18:32 PM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: Tzimisce

I think there are a few things (probably very few) that would galvanize them....card check for instance. Of course, Collins and Snowe could just cave and it would be a moot issue whether Chambliss is there or not.


19 posted on 11/24/2008 8:22:35 PM PST by Al B.
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
The writer says the runoff favors Chambliss yet the writer does not quote or cite a poll.

The article cites two polls.

20 posted on 11/24/2008 8:25:03 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Al B.

I would think a runoff would favor Chambliss as there would no Obamamania to drive the Dem vote.


21 posted on 11/24/2008 8:26:59 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Well, you know that my district is pretty much a neighborhood-by-neighborhood mix of GOP and Dems. I guess they figure the whole county is up for grabs. :)


22 posted on 11/24/2008 8:27:21 PM PST by Amelia
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To: Al B.

dude here is the deal

there is NO WAY that the liberal Obama people will come out and vote AGAIN....... Saxby will win in a landslide


23 posted on 11/24/2008 8:32:04 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Al B.

Don’t believe it. Fight!


24 posted on 11/24/2008 8:53:56 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Free Vulcan

In some areas it’s not so much that Martin ran well, it’s that the Libertarian candidate ran better than usual. In Gwinnett County, one of the big suburban counties outside Atlanta, Saxby got 53%, Martin 43%, Buckley 4%. In Cobb County, another big suburban county, it was pretty much the same, with Martin just one point lower. In many northern GA counties, Saxby scored in the 60-70% range, Martin 20%-30%, and Buckley anywhere from the low to high single digits. Martin’s vote actually doesn’t look much different from Max Cleland’s losing 46% six years ago, it’s just that Saxby’s seeing a cut from his column due to Buckley, plus the extra black turnout has dampened the GOP margins in the Atlanta metro area.

Saxby may be in good shape even if he only picks up a small portion of the Buckley vote.


25 posted on 11/24/2008 9:09:55 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Russia invades Georgia? For a moment, I thought that was Red Dawn II)
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To: georgiarat
The message worked and the Governor and his appointees backed off the change in teacher retirement pay.

If Georgia is similar to other states, retirement benefits must be reduced substantially. Pension portfolios have lost 30% to 50% of value in one year. The ridiculous target rate of return is far short of the actual rate of return. Government workers, especially teachers feel entitled to subsidized early retired. Subsidized early retirement cannot be afforded now. It seems like a sensible reform to me unless teacher pensions are much different in Georgia than other states.

26 posted on 11/24/2008 9:28:34 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

If the LP candidate doesn’t endorse Saxby Chambliss publicly, then he is a total jerk and a danger to freedom and we need to swear to never support or vote LP again.

I am sick and tired of the LP handing victory after victory over to the liberal socialist Democrats.


27 posted on 11/24/2008 10:47:54 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM)
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To: Army Air Corps

http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/

They’re running ads here in Georgia for Chambliss. Dick Morris was telling people tonight to go to this site and donate.

He called it goptrust.com, and I actually got to this site by going to http://www.goptrust.com


28 posted on 11/24/2008 11:46:07 PM PST by Purrcival (Obama and Biden: The Marx Brothers! (Thanks FReeper Enduring Freedom for the tagline))
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To: ilgipper

Alas, we never know about GA which gave the world her own GA Jimmy.


29 posted on 11/25/2008 7:07:59 AM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: Al B.

Newt or Mike Huckabee would do Chambliss more good than Giuliani in Georgia.


30 posted on 11/25/2008 9:20:54 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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