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Government to Unveil Consumer Credit Facility
Fox News ^ | 11/25/08 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/25/2008 5:10:19 AM PST by markedmannerf

Washington--The government is working on a new loan facility to help companies that issue credit cards, make student loans and finance car purchases.

The Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve will unveil the program Tuesday, according to people familar with the plan. They spoke on condition of anonymity because a formal announcement has yet to be made.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson has said he plans to use a "relatively modest share" of the $700 billion financial bailout money to pay for the new program.

It's the latest effort by the government to break through a dangerous credit clog that has badly hurt the economy.

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1 posted on 11/25/2008 5:10:20 AM PST by markedmannerf
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“The government is working on a new loan facility to help companies that issue credit cards, make student loans and finance car purchases.”

Help them with what? Is this going to be a government controlled credit rating bureau?

2 posted on 11/25/2008 5:14:11 AM PST by villagerjoel (1984 was not supposed to be an instruction manual!)
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To: markedmannerf

Government interference in the mortgage lending market got us into the mess we are in, now our elected representatives propose that the problem can be solved by more government —— government make work projects, government bail outs, and higher taxes on the “rich” - the “rich” being anyone who makes more than $130,000 a year, I suspect.

Obama was on the tube yesterday saying that 95% of Americans would have a net tax cut. Well, the top 5% of earners already pay 60% of all federal personal income taxes, so he wants them to pay more? That will kill consumption and kill jobs.


3 posted on 11/25/2008 5:15:03 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: markedmannerf
a new loan facility

With the overwhelming success of Freddie & Fannie, how can this miss?

4 posted on 11/25/2008 5:15:24 AM PST by laotzu
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To: markedmannerf

Hmm, that’s odd. Seems like Circuity City and Best Buy are offering no interest until 2011 on storewide purchases over $499, and Raymour and Flanigan is offering no money down, no interest until 2012 for purchases over $2,999. How exactly do we need Minicredit?


5 posted on 11/25/2008 5:16:08 AM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Dahoser

It’s so other companies can unload bad debt onto the government, not so much to issue more. Think the good bank/bad bank model.


6 posted on 11/25/2008 5:18:38 AM PST by downwdims (The Borrower is Slave to the Lender)
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To: pleikumud

Yes - government causes the problem, and then more government is proposed to “fix” it.

And the people proposing such laws are shielded from experiencing the consequences themselves.

But it brings them votes!


7 posted on 11/25/2008 5:21:33 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: markedmannerf

Great, now instead of just issuing mortgages to people who can’t afford it and backed by the taxpayers they want to issue credit cards to the same people.

Barney Franks is probably drooling over the idea of taxpayer backed credit cards for losers.


8 posted on 11/25/2008 5:22:55 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: markedmannerf

In lying to me, Mr. government official, you have granted me moral authority over you.


9 posted on 11/25/2008 5:23:05 AM PST by reasonisfaith (In lying to me, Mr. government official, you have granted me moral authority over you.)
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To: markedmannerf

Hey, the credit markets are tight, if the banks won’t make loans, then the gov’t will. This will probably solve minority redlining too.


10 posted on 11/25/2008 5:23:16 AM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: markedmannerf
Is this the "jump the shark" moment for the US?

Somebody please post Fonzy jumping the shark.....

11 posted on 11/25/2008 5:29:05 AM PST by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: downwdims
Think the good bank/bad bank model.

And of course existing management will stay with the "good bank", because they've done such a good job.

12 posted on 11/25/2008 5:29:58 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: markedmannerf

Wow. How much more money is going to be thrown at all these problems?

You can’t stop a train wreck by throwing money at the tracks.

Steps such as these will only slow down and lengthen the inevitable crunch.


13 posted on 11/25/2008 5:30:18 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: central_va

Fonzy might not have jumped so high if he knew he was going to get bailed out either way.


14 posted on 11/25/2008 5:34:20 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: cmj328

I’m with you man


15 posted on 11/25/2008 5:35:32 AM PST by downwdims (The Borrower is Slave to the Lender)
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To: villagerjoel

Love your tagline.


16 posted on 11/25/2008 5:40:43 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: markedmannerf

This is insane....


17 posted on 11/25/2008 5:41:42 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: SumProVita

American Express was told to buy any bank to get bailout
money for bad credit card debt. The idea that taxpayers
are paying for bad credit card, auto, and student loans
is revolting!


18 posted on 11/25/2008 5:45:45 AM PST by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: pleikumud
Obama was on the tube yesterday saying that 95% of Americans would have a net tax cut. Well, the top 5% of earners already pay 60% of all federal personal income taxes, so he wants them to pay more? That will kill consumption and kill jobs.

______________________________________________

I hope he does. I hope that he drives the economy to levels worse than 1978-79. I hope that we see double digit inflation, 12% unemployment, 15% mortgage interest rates. I want every young white idiot and white boomer idiot who voted for bambi to suffer. Otherwise they will give him a second term - and that is when he will destroy our country.

Bring the pain.....it won't kill us, it will save us.

19 posted on 11/25/2008 5:47:57 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Dr. Ursus

It’s not only revolting. It’s going to destroy this great nation.

Speaking of revolting....We may NEED to do some of that ourselves.


20 posted on 11/25/2008 5:51:50 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: SumProVita

Agreed!!!


21 posted on 11/25/2008 5:57:32 AM PST by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: SumProVita
Revolutionaries will be tagged, transported marched to reservations, and re-educated until they assimilate. For their own protection, the children will be taken from them and placed with correct families.

This is not sarcasm. It's just a matter of time. The sooner you revolt, the sooner it will begin.

22 posted on 11/25/2008 6:02:21 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Stop feeding Leftist education systems. Don't let your kids go there.)
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To: Abathar

“Great, now instead of just issuing mortgages to people who can’t afford it and backed by the taxpayers they want to issue credit cards to the same people.”

Calm down folks......This is NOT issuing credit to individual consumers. Rest assured the consumer is still dead. This is simply more bailing out of financial institutions for their irresponsible lending. Since the people didn’t revolt when Congress passed the first one, and didn’t punish the perpetrators on election day, then we have given tacit approval to this action.....and the next one.......and the next one......and.....


23 posted on 11/25/2008 6:03:57 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: All

Not only are YOU paying for all this, but in addition, every day the sun rises, you get up, and bust your butt ALL DAY LONG trying to earn more counterfiet paper money, so you can pay for MORE of it.

Thanks.


24 posted on 11/25/2008 6:07:36 AM PST by jeffers
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

We aren’t close to that YET...and I am not afraid of revolting in an intelligent and VERY organized manner. ;-)


25 posted on 11/25/2008 6:08:31 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: markedmannerf
The government is working on a new loan facility to help companies that issue credit cards, make student loans and finance car purchases.

The credit cards will only come with one image on it...


26 posted on 11/25/2008 6:09:01 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama: Satan's Counterfeit Christ)
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To: central_va
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27 posted on 11/25/2008 6:09:51 AM PST by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Dr. Ursus

“The idea that taxpayers are paying for bad credit card, auto, and student loans is revolting!”

The government is going to keep on spending, bailing out, and growing until they simply cannot do so anymore. Either the people will stop it (which the have declined to do recently) or the markets will, through a reluctance to lend to the US, do the same thing.

Government simply has not found the limit to which they can expand spending and bailout their financial/investment community friends. I am confident that since GWB has failed to find that limit, that Obama will surely do so.


28 posted on 11/25/2008 6:10:29 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: markedmannerf

Our new “Government Bank” ready to start making those sweetheart loans with taxpayer money. Otherwise known as a lobbyist magnet.

Another government boondoggle in the making and ripe for corruption.


29 posted on 11/25/2008 6:14:40 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: markedmannerf
Oh this is a real quantum leap, combine the arrogance of the credit bureau with the bumbling inefficiency and wastefulness of the federal government.

Before it's all over, we are all going to see a replay of the last days of the Weimar Republic when the only thing the U.S. dollar is good for is feeding the furnace:
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30 posted on 11/25/2008 6:22:36 AM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: ladyvet

Love your tag line. ;-p


31 posted on 11/25/2008 6:43:04 AM PST by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: Dr. Ursus
American Express was told to buy any bank to get bailout money for bad credit card debt. The idea that taxpayers are paying for bad credit card, auto, and student loans is revolting!

I paid all of my credit card debt and got out a few years ago. Now I have to pay off other peoples debt also.

I am not for bailouts, but if we were actually going to bail people out, we might as well have bailed out people instead of companies.

If they had used the "bailout" IOU's to actually pay off mortgages and credit cards instead of just handing over money....the banks would still have gotten the money, but the people would have gotten out from under some debt. As it is, the banks get the money, but still get to foreclose.

Ripoff.
32 posted on 11/25/2008 7:03:18 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: markedmannerf

We need the economy to be more productive, not add on more demand side credit.

The W administration finds more ways to creatively screw up in its last days.


33 posted on 11/25/2008 7:10:35 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: markedmannerf
I'd call this "insane" but the word "insane" has "sane" in it. Which is not a series of letters that should be within 50-feet of this idea.

The Federal Government is completely out of control, stupid.

34 posted on 11/25/2008 7:11:14 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (By Obama's own reckoning, isn't Lyndon LaRouche more qualified? He's run since the 70's)
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To: markedmannerf

BB: Hey, Hank, we’re over-leveraged and over-valued! What do we do?
HP: I have an idea, Ben, let’s get people and companies and governments to borrow more!
TG: Yes, that’ll work, because the three of us are infinitely smarter than the millions of people that make economic decisioins every day.


35 posted on 11/25/2008 7:19:05 AM PST by sanchmo
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To: Psycho_Bunny

All the credit you want for a 666 on your forehead.


36 posted on 11/25/2008 7:20:03 AM PST by Rodm (Seest thou a ,,diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: laotzu

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_should_the_government


37 posted on 11/25/2008 7:20:54 AM PST by Boiling Pots (I'd be laughing if it wasn't going to be so expensive.)
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To: COBOL2Java

By the time he leaves office, Obama’s face will be on the $1-Billion Treasury Note bill. That way we can see his picture every time we buy a loaf of bread.


38 posted on 11/25/2008 7:21:01 AM PST by sanchmo
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To: COBOL2Java

Gimme a break, all this is happening under a Republican President.

At the end of 0bama’s term, when we’re all whining about how Government owns everything, I wonder how many will remember it started under Bush.

To Hell with Bush and his entire family.


39 posted on 11/25/2008 7:22:20 AM PST by Boiling Pots (I'd be laughing if it wasn't going to be so expensive.)
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To: Dahoser

GM is advertising millions to lend for qualified buyers. Again, it’s the deadbeats who can’t get financed that the govt is insistent upon financing a car with our tax dollar.
In the beginning, it was the sub-prime lenders who assumed the high risks for potential high profits that the govt now seeks to keep in business.

Sub-prime lending failed because there were too many dishonest greedy hands in the cookie jar... with kickbacks and fraud galore! And now the taxpayer is supposed to prop them up? Bail them out? The American taxpayer is being scammed by the govt and the sub-prime frauds. What we are experiencing is one of the greatest frauds ever.


40 posted on 11/25/2008 7:24:34 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: sanchmo
By the time he leaves office, Obama’s face will be on the $1-Billion Treasury Note bill. That way we can see his picture every time we buy a loaf of bread.

On the bills? Heck his image will be plastered all over the place, like Mao in China...


41 posted on 11/25/2008 7:27:39 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama: Satan's Counterfeit Christ)
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To: markedmannerf
Is this what Paulson is talking about right now?

The press is asking him questions and he sounds alternately obfuscatory, clueless, and scared.

Not someone I want to trust my future to.

42 posted on 11/25/2008 7:30:50 AM PST by Amelia
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To: RexBeach
Steps such as these will only slow down and lengthen the inevitable crunch.

Not "crunch."
CRASH.
And the more of this insane throwing money into a black hole, the worse that crash is going to be.
But, of course, it's a new day.
Change is in the air.
We can disgard the last vestiges of "free marketism" and "Reaganism."
Of course.

43 posted on 11/25/2008 7:41:08 AM PST by XR7
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To: markedmannerf
Like vultures moving in for the big kill...

Russian warships arrive off coast of Venezuela

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081125/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_russia

44 posted on 11/25/2008 7:50:21 AM PST by XR7
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To: markedmannerf
"We owe our souls to the company store"
45 posted on 11/25/2008 7:50:49 AM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Or Saddam ... or the ronery one ... enough to send a chill down the spine of any sentient being.


46 posted on 11/25/2008 7:52:40 AM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: Dahoser

There is plenty of money for qualified borrowers out there, but they aren’t borrowing because they are responsible and are unsure of the economic future and ability to pay back.

Increasing the confidence of this consumer by lowering taxes could be a good start.


47 posted on 11/25/2008 7:58:44 AM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: NonValueAdded

48 posted on 11/25/2008 7:59:35 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama: Satan's Counterfeit Christ)
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To: Dr. Ursus

“The idea that taxpayers
are paying for bad credit card, auto, and student loans
is revolting!”

Let’s have a ‘Revolution’! Because that’s exactly what’s happening!
When you hear the ‘officials’ cry that the banks aren’t lending, the truth is the banks can’t find credit worthy participants. Those that are ‘credit worthy’ are not borrowing, they are ‘deleveraging’ or paying off debt (while hoarding cash or avoiding unnecessary ‘consumption’).


49 posted on 11/25/2008 8:02:09 AM PST by griswold3
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To: mkjessup

Weimer II will be caused by the failed definition of deflation used by Keynesians to scare up demented monetary policy. The whole episode has been horrifying, but nothing has made me as enraged as the corporate-welfare artists (the first to taste, the last to feel) and their useful idiots stammering on about deflation.

The frightening thing is that few seem to notice the clear mathematical result that the definitions of inflation and deflation used by our “betters” are internally inconsistent. The most honest of the criminals use one definition pair when things are on the way up, another pair on the way down. The rest don’t even bother with such a facade - they are content to justify certain actions as “recession fighting” in nature...

Every advocate of policies to “fight deflation”, today, is advocating only the redistribution of wealth from the responsible to the irresponsible. Their threats that “we will be stuck with a bill one way or another” are empty.


50 posted on 11/25/2008 8:17:44 AM PST by M203M4 (GOP problem: failed to deliver on promises. Solution: promise instead what was already delivered?!?!)
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