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Reid: Comprehensive Immigration Reform Will Come Early (Amnesty to "Easily" Pass)
Weekly Standard ^ | November 25, 2008 | Brian Faughnan

Posted on 11/25/2008 9:43:25 AM PST by GOPGuide

Harry Reid told the Detroit Free Press that he expects comprehensive immigration reform to be passed relatively early in the next Congress:

Q. With more Democrats in the Senate and the House and a Democrat in the White House, how do you see congressional efforts playing out on such issues as health care and immigration?

A: On immigration, there's been an agreement between (President-elect Barack) Obama and (Arizona Republican Sen. John) McCain to move forward on that. ... We'll do that. We have to get this economy stuff figured out first, so I think we'll have a shot at doing something on health care in the next Congress for sure.

Q: Will there be as much of a fight on immigration as last time?

A: We've got McCain and we've got a few others. I don't expect much of a fight at all. Now health care is going to be difficult. That's a very complicated issue. We debated at great length immigration. People understand the issues very well. We have not debated health care, so that's going to take a lot more time to do.

One senator who wields significant influence on the debate is Robert Menendez, and he seems to be pushing ahead on the issue as well. Menendez is no extremist among Senate Democrats, either; he's just been named head of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee. Expect Menendez to lead a push--apparently with Reid's blessing--to get comprehensive reform passed in the first half of 2009. Proponents will argue that while the measure may be unpopular, it's better to swallow a bitter pill far in advance of the midterms. And if it seems that they lack the votes to pass it in the next few months, they'll bargain for a commitment for passage later in 2009.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; mccain; messiah; theone
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1 posted on 11/25/2008 9:43:25 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Oh, great. As if we can afford more entitlement grabbing, freeloading people.


2 posted on 11/25/2008 9:44:38 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: GOPGuide

Well, I better brush up on my Spanish to start with...

Maybe we could make a deal ...for every wetback entering the US, we get to send 2 Senators and 20 congress critters back to Mexico to let them help Mexico deal with their own problems instead of letting Mexico ship them to US!


3 posted on 11/25/2008 9:47:17 AM PST by texson66 (DemonRats: Remember: They have what it takes to TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE!)
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To: GOPGuide
Looks like we're screwed as a country. The invasion is about to succeed and be blessed by the socialist RATS. Not that McCain was worth a bucket of warm spit on this issue anyway.
4 posted on 11/25/2008 9:47:55 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: GOPGuide

This was coming no matter who got elected.
I believe John McCain actually believes this is good for America. I’m not sure that the Democrats see this as anything other than getting more Democrat voters.


5 posted on 11/25/2008 9:48:06 AM PST by brownsfan (We are sooooo screwed.)
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To: GOPGuide
And I know just the Maverick Obamah will call upon to see it through this time.
6 posted on 11/25/2008 9:48:18 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: CottonBall

SO the democRATS are going to grant amnesty and that will be the final nail in the coffin of the Republican Party and the last act of treason by the democRATS to finally kill off this once great nation.

America RIP. It was great while it lasted.


7 posted on 11/25/2008 9:48:48 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Those who live by the sword risk being shot by those who don’t.)
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To: GOPGuide

“Q: Will there be as much of a fight on immigration as last time?

A: We’ve got McCain and we’ve got a few others.”

This is a big part of why McCain lost. This issue matters to people and voters are smart enough to know that McCain thinks Democrat on it. Had he won he’d be pushing shamnesty too.


8 posted on 11/25/2008 9:50:06 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: Myrddin

get on the BUS , Gus! (Blessed Union of Socialist)


9 posted on 11/25/2008 9:50:38 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: TexasCajun

The only Mexicans the McCains know have to be out of their
area by nightfall.


10 posted on 11/25/2008 9:51:28 AM PST by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: brownsfan

When this issue was on the front burner the American people stood up and stopped it. However, it was never mentioned during the election and now, with the “unprecedented economic crisis of all time ever” grabbing all the attention, this is getting rammed through in record time.

We could get to the point were anyone walking over the border will be sworn as a citizen (in Spanish, of course) and given a voter registration card with state and address blank, to be filled in later (in Spanish, of course).


11 posted on 11/25/2008 9:52:34 AM PST by henkster (It's time for a conservative "long march through the institutions.")
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To: GOPGuide

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2138152/posts

Two posts after yours. Coming soon to America.


12 posted on 11/25/2008 9:54:12 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: GOPGuide

It will not pass the House anymore.


13 posted on 11/25/2008 9:55:06 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: GOPGuide

So let me get this straight - America is losing jobs and they want to import illegals to displace the American worker?


14 posted on 11/25/2008 9:56:27 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: GOPGuide
"Reid: Comprehensive Immigration Reform Will Come Early (Amnesty to "Easily" Pass)"

So, we're going to give "amesty" to all of these illegals...does that mean automatic citizenship too?

Does that mean that they walk in to our country, where we have spent a lifetime working and building our lives, families and fortunes, and they just starting benefiting from our work?

With all the crap that is already happening, when this comes to pass it will just about be time for Atlas to Shrug.

They can't give them benefits if they don't have any money to do it with. If we can't vote them out, maybe we can starve them out with an underground economy.

Time to liquidate and cut spending to the bone...spending is the life blood of a capitalist society, and a big source of tax revenue.

All politics are local. Spending cutbacks at the state and local level will then force them to ask the feds for another bailout...after all "57 states" put their hands out, the feds will go belly up.

Just a theory, but ain't it fun....
15 posted on 11/25/2008 9:59:39 AM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: texson66

time to get organized and ready for a massive citizen letter/email campaign. FR is in a good position to lead the charge.


16 posted on 11/25/2008 10:01:11 AM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: GOPGuide

17 posted on 11/25/2008 10:03:30 AM PST by mirkwood (There is no Gorebull warming in Maine)
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To: Ouderkirk
SO the democRATS are going to grant amnesty and that will be the final nail in the coffin of the Republican Party and the last act of treason by the democRATS to finally kill off this once great nation.

Yup. The thing that made American great - free enterprise with people willing to work hard and reap the benefits of their efforts - won't even be a memory. (Thanks to our education system.)
18 posted on 11/25/2008 10:03:39 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: GOPGuide; Liz; gubamyster

“A: On immigration, there’s been an agreement between (President-elect Barack) Obama and (Arizona Republican Sen. John) McCain to move forward on that. ... We’ll do that.”

Yeah, I’ll bet!

McCAin has learned NOTHING.


19 posted on 11/25/2008 10:03:54 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: GOPGuide

Well, they’ll need SOMEBODY to vote for them!


20 posted on 11/25/2008 10:05:03 AM PST by poobear (Tagline has been temporarily suspended...)
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To: GOPGuide
I doubt it. Skepticism of the beneifts of immigration tends to run high during times of high unemployment.

Obama is not qualified to be president, but he has great political instincts. He realizes that pushing amnesty now would be a political loser. Rham Emanuel has also stated that now is not the time. He will wait until his second term. That's why preventing his re-election in 2012 is so important.

21 posted on 11/25/2008 10:05:25 AM PST by curiosity
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To: roamer_1

“It will not pass the House anymore”

Are you sure, seems to me that it will, al be it late at night, attached to something else. The death of conservatism in the United States, followed by the death of the United States down the road.


22 posted on 11/25/2008 10:05:40 AM PST by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new enviromentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: KC_Conspirator

“So let me get this straight - America is losing jobs and they want to import illegals to displace the American worker?”

Exactly. All the rino’s insist we need MORE imported labor!

INSANE.


23 posted on 11/25/2008 10:06:09 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: mirkwood

24 posted on 11/25/2008 10:09:02 AM PST by mirkwood (There is no Gorebull warming in Maine)
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To: GOPGuide
This is treason. There is no other term for allowing and encouraging the foreign invasion and conquest of America by operatives (civilian and military) of the Mexican government.

Treason.

25 posted on 11/25/2008 10:11:14 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: curiosity

“I doubt it. Skepticism of the beneifts of immigration tends to run high during times of high unemployment.”

I am skeptical Reid will actually be able to pull it off in the midst of a major economic downturn when people are struggling to pay the bills, too.

Remember that the US had net EMIGRATION, not immigration, during the Depression.


26 posted on 11/25/2008 10:14:24 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: FrankR
So, we're going to give "amesty" to all of these illegals...does that mean automatic citizenship too?

Eventually.

First they will give them greencards. Then after a number of years, they become eligible for citizenship.

The good news is that many probably won't bother to get citizenship since there really aren't any real benefits associated with it any more.

A greencard holder has pretty much the same rights as a citizen, and access to just about all the same entitlement programs. The only real difference is that greencard holders can't vote (at least not legally) and don't have to serve on juries.

I suspect most of the legalized illegals won't care enough about the right to vote to bother becoming citizens and having the burden of jury duty imposed.

This is why, incidentally, all this talk about illegals having to get in the "back of the line" for citizenship is so idiotic. Citizenship isn't all that valuable (unfortunately). The greencard is the Holy Grail, and all the amnesty proposals to date allow illegals to jump ahead in line for the greencard.

27 posted on 11/25/2008 10:16:09 AM PST by curiosity
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To: GOPGuide

Heaven help us. We have traitors in our midst, willing to sell this great country out for the love of a few more votes.


28 posted on 11/25/2008 10:16:16 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (We'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
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To: GOPGuide
I am skeptical Reid will actually be able to pull it off...

I think you are correct. Rham Emanuel will pull him asside and kabosh it.

29 posted on 11/25/2008 10:19:27 AM PST by curiosity
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To: brownsfan

We already know how stupid and anti-American demorats are. We have long known McCain is a rino. The amnesty would happen even if he had won. I guess the moral is to never trust a rino.


30 posted on 11/25/2008 10:22:36 AM PST by hdstmf
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To: curiosity

So, are we going to just sit here and let them pass this without a fight? We melted their switchboards last time, we can do it again.


31 posted on 11/25/2008 10:23:50 AM PST by WVNan
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To: GOPGuide

I have to wonder if Zero’s forseen what’s going to happen in a screwed economy when Mexicans with green cards take jobs away from low-skilled African-Americans in the cities. I’d advise any conservatives to move away from the fracas, you’ll be able to watch it all on Fox News.


32 posted on 11/25/2008 10:23:57 AM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: GOPGuide
Will we be able to filibuster in the Senate? We shall see.
33 posted on 11/25/2008 10:33:12 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: KC_Conspirator
"So let me get this straight - America is losing jobs and they want to import illegals to displace the American worker?"

This isn't so much about the illegals working as it is them voting, though working IS part of it. After amnesty is done, the democrats will never lose another national election. Someone please let me know which state will be the first to break away. Alaska would be a good one. Lots of natural resources. Or perhaps an entirely new country can be created out of Montana, Western Canada, and Alaska.

34 posted on 11/25/2008 10:34:01 AM PST by KoRn
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


35 posted on 11/25/2008 10:36:06 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: hunter112
...what’s going to happen in a screwed economy when Mexicans with green cards take jobs away from low-skilled African-Americans in the cities.

It sure as hell won't stop them from *voting* for him.So,to him,there's no problem.Remember...to Hussein it's all about '12.That's *all* he really cares about.

36 posted on 11/25/2008 10:36:21 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: WVNan
So, are we going to just sit here and let them pass this without a fight?

Absolutely not! If they try to bring it up on the legislative agenda, we need to fight it with everything we've got! This is especially true of people who live in a blue dog congressional district or blue-dog state.

We melted their switchboards last time, we can do it again.

Yes! And we should! If they bring it up.

I'm just saying I don't think it is likely they will.

37 posted on 11/25/2008 10:38:04 AM PST by curiosity
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To: hunter112

The utter absurdity of all the news lately is just spiining me into the ground. I watched for years as the housing sector led the way in using these illegals and how small American trades contractors were driven out for the cheap labor. That whole poison seems to have spread as the housing “bubble” pumped up and burst. And if a dumbass like me could see it, how do we explain why all these “smart guys” just kept turning up the music?


38 posted on 11/25/2008 10:38:23 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: KoRn
Someone please let me know which state will be the first to break away. Alaska would be a good one.

Never mind breaking away.How about those that are kicked out? I nominate CA,NY,NJ,VTand MA for starters.I'll give up my MA "citizenship" if I can settle in East Tennessee.

39 posted on 11/25/2008 10:38:56 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: KC_Conspirator
It is insanity to expect the American People are going to welcome Amnesty in any way, shape or form.

Just because a few pandering politicans are looking after their own votes, doesn't mean the rest of this Nation has to sit still for it. We'll fight it.

sw

40 posted on 11/25/2008 10:43:23 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: GOPGuide

Open the borders. It’s easier than playing these immigration games. With unemployment shooting up into double digits, we’ll need a lot of third world labor to keep the unemployment checks coming.


41 posted on 11/25/2008 10:46:56 AM PST by pallis
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To: east1234
[me:]“It will not pass the House anymore”

Are you sure, seems to me that it will, al be it late at night, attached to [...]

Perhaps I should say it is far less likely now than it was previously. There is bound to be principled leadership in the House whether Boehner is still minority leader or not, and a very good portion of the House Democrat freshmen are up for re-election in 2010, and know where their bread is buttered.

I expect a coalition of Conservative Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats to rise up to defeat a good portion of what the liberals will want to do- and this is our best, and only hope. It has been our best and only hope all the way along. We are in a far better position now than we would have been if the RINOs had stayed in power with MccAin't at the helm.

42 posted on 11/25/2008 10:58:25 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

“So let me get this straight - America is losing jobs and they want to import illegals to displace the American worker?”

No, they want the illegals already here to get a DNC membership card.

Whatever fence that has been built to date is not coming down. Yet.


43 posted on 11/25/2008 10:58:36 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: GOPGuide

I am not giving in, I will resist all of the way. It is up on the change.gov website under immigration soliciting remarks. I also gave numbers.usa some money. What other activities can we do to let Congress know that’s not what the polls say. The polls show enforcement and this issue will further divide the country. I am beginning to think that’s what they want so we merge with Canada and Mexico


44 posted on 11/25/2008 11:00:48 AM PST by volslover
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To: FrankR
So, we're going to give "amesty" to all of these illegals...does that mean automatic citizenship too?

They would be fools to become citizens and give up free medical care (sniffles to ER, paid for by us---costs $200 or so), welfare for their extended family, free food, subsidized housing and preferred status as a minority.

Disallowing any of the benefits just because they are Illegal Insurgent Criminal Alien Colonists would be racist.

45 posted on 11/25/2008 11:12:59 AM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: volslover
I agree. We cannot surrender. Outrageous that we have troops dying in Iraq while our politicians are waving the white flag to the invaders and also promising them perks. Although McCain was hell bent on amnesty and had a secret meeting with LaRaza, they still wouldn't vote for him.

We need to make every effort possible to fight this. Call and write to our representative, talk-shows, blogs, etc.

46 posted on 11/25/2008 11:14:52 AM PST by Dante3
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To: volslover
THIS NOTE IS FOR YOU AND THE HANDFUL of others on this thread reacting strongly (and not in defeatism):

I just called Sen. Reid's office directly (202-224-3542) and pressed 1 to speak to a staff member.

I spoke reasonably. I told her my husband had just been laid off and that I found it appalling that the senator would push for amnesty at a time when millions of people were facing joblessness--and to think illegal aliens would have citizenship and rights was even more appalling. I explained that if she thought our outrage last year burned up the phones, just wait till next year!

The upshot was that I shocked this female staff member, for I sensed she hadn't a clue that people like me realized Obama did NOT campaign on this issue and for Sen. Reid to push it would show a callous disregard for Americans facing a depression. She assured me she'd pass on my concerns (and I thought it was a sincere assurance).

Anyhoooooo . . . for any others reading this post, please, please, please do not wring your hands. Put them to good use writing and/or telephoningyour congressfolk or Reid.

Regards . . . Penny


47 posted on 11/25/2008 11:15:40 AM PST by Penny
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To: GOPGuide

I really despise these people. I wish their constituents would wise up and throw these despots out! Our country is toast with these idiots leading it.


48 posted on 11/25/2008 11:23:06 AM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Penny

I am glad you put that number there. I was looking for it online


49 posted on 11/25/2008 11:25:35 AM PST by volslover
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To: GOPGuide

Raging gun battles between drug dealers coming to a street near you...


50 posted on 11/25/2008 11:28:42 AM PST by Deo volente (On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
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