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To: GourmetDan

So give us an example in the history of science in which the assumption of supernatural causation has led to useful scientific discoveries of principals.


43 posted on 11/25/2008 11:58:22 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
"So give us an example in the history of science in which the assumption of supernatural causation has led to useful scientific discoveries of principals."

Here we see how firmly the fallacy of equivocating the existence of natural physical laws with philosophical naturalism is embedded in the thinking of naturalists. While it is unavoidably a philosophical decision, adherents are totally unable to recognize it and use it to support their belief simply because they have no other support and refuse to admit their critical-thinking error.

Did I mention how belief in philosophical naturalism destroys critical-thinking ability?

49 posted on 11/25/2008 12:04:13 PM PST by GourmetDan
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So give us an example in the history of science in which the assumption of supernatural causation has led to useful scientific discoveries of principals.

1. Origin of the Universe-tell us how, from a naturalistic point of view, the universe sprung from nothing. To do this you must contradict Einstein, Wilson, Penzias, Hubble, Jastrow, the findings of COBE, the findings of WMAP, law of cause and effect, David Hume's assertions of first cause, Kalam's Cosmological Arguement. Even Fred Hoyle, avowed atheist to the bitter end said there seemed to be a superintelligence tinkering with the laws of physics. Science can take you back only as far as a few millionths of a microsecond prior to Big Bang. But what of the moment prior to that singularity. Please clear this up for all of us.

The second example in the history of science in which the assumption of supernatural causation has led to useful scientific discoveries is first life. Tell us how the first cell came to be.

If living organisms are nothing more than chemicals and their sofisticated reactions, and nothing else, please explain consiousness...what is its chemical makeup? What does conciousness weigh? What is the molecular structure of love, hate, beauty, justice? You do agree that there is something called conciousness? No?

If at any point you deny the universe beginning, then you deny all of the findings of the theory of general relativity, Hubbles red shift, the predicted background ratiation from the big bang found by Wilson and Penzias, as well as the findings of COBE and WMAP. You have denied what science has shoved into your face. Yours is a volitional application of selective science and is dishonest in refusing to consider all of the above findings and allow those findings to take you whereever they will take you.

So your charge is simple. Just tell us the natural materialistic explaination for origin of the universe, first life, and consiousness.

71 posted on 11/25/2008 12:47:42 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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