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Kenya: 'I don't know' if Obama born in U.S.
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Posted on 11/26/2008 7:05:02 PM PST by dascallie

Kenya: 'I don't know' if Obama born in U.S.

Ambassador suggests question be put to American government

Posted: November 26, 2008 9:44 pm Eastern

By Chelsea Schilling © 2008 WorldNetDaily

Kenyan Ambassador Peter N.R.O. Ogego is saying he's "infuriated" by a radio program's efforts to "misquote" him on the subject of President-elect Barack Obama's birthplace – but he refused to confirm whether Obama was born in the United States.

In an exclusive interview with WND today, Ogego was specifically asked whether Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen.

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

He continued with a rhetorical question: "Obama is an American, isn't he?"

On Nov. 6, only two days after the election, Detroit radio talk-show hosts Mike Clark, Trudi Daniels and Marc Fellhauer on WRIF's "Mike In The Morning" called the Embassy of Kenya in Washington, D.C., to speak with Ambassador Ogego...

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; kenya; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile
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To: Windflier
You could present stone cold proof that Obama was born on the planet Mars and no court in this "Nation of Laws" would bat an eye before dismissing you to the outer darkness.

If you're so convinced of that, then what recourse are you willing to take to defend the liberties bestowed upon you by better men, who died in the cause of freedom?

LOL. You guys are speaking two different languages and speaking past each other. He is speaking how it is not how he would like it to be.

Nothing will happen on this. However I also believe we must never give up pushing this issue - even after he is sworn in. We should make as much noise as possible. Those two statements are not incompatible BTW.

As far as I am concerned he is guilty until he proves where he was born.

41 posted on 11/26/2008 8:41:49 PM PST by plain talk
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To: generally
What else do you suggest we start getting used to? This won’t be the last thing. This will be just the first of many. Are you willing to draw the line anywhere, or are you just planning on an endless series of things to “get used to?”

Not quite sure what your point is, but I voted for McCain/Palin, so again, my conscience is clear. I can't draw any line, I'm just a decent law abiding citizen. I did my part on election day, did you?

42 posted on 11/26/2008 8:42:53 PM PST by Lisa_from Buckeye Country (I don't think I like this kind of CHANGE. I was actually getting used to feeling safe.)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

Just everyone pray, God has our backs, he never takes you to anything he won’t bring you through...I cannot bring myself to be respectful to a POTUS who won by lying, cheating and stealing and BUYING his way in...it was not fair and square in any way...he is a fraud. But he was able to deceive half the country with the help of the drive-by media-—people have no idea what they have done...it is sad but we have to keep our faith in God, we will be fine.


43 posted on 11/26/2008 8:55:39 PM PST by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: RoseofTexas

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/893365

Go about 15 minutes into the tape!!!


44 posted on 11/26/2008 8:57:15 PM PST by danamco
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To: plain talk
You guys are speaking two different languages and speaking past each other. He is speaking how it is not how he would like it to be.

I would sincerely hope that my communication to him ran straight to target. It's not like me to miss.

And, for your information, I got what he said clearly. His aim is also true, though I disagree with what he's saying.

I also got the fact that he wishes things were otherwise, so I know that he's not anything other than resigned to a future that he, and we, are perfectly capable of thwarting.

What I rail against here is the defeatist mindset, which postulates that we are powerless to affect our own future, and that "all is lost", "there's nothing that can change it now", "it's over", "live with it", etc.

Those things will certainly become reality if we all succumb to that mindset and go into agreement with them.

Yes, there is a chance that our government will violate its bedrock charter and allow Obama to assume the Presidency because, well, he wants it.

For now, that's simply a possible outcome. But it is an absolutely assured outcome, if every patriotic American falls into the apathy I've seen expressed here by some.

45 posted on 11/26/2008 8:59:58 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
What? "Let it go."? I don't think so. If this Constitutional requirement is tossed out the window, then I'm (we're) going to assume the Constitutional (amendment) requirement that we pay an income tax is also thrown out the window. Fair is fair. He doesn't have to be natural-born; I don't have to support his government. It stands to reason.
46 posted on 11/26/2008 9:04:26 PM PST by so_real
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To: autumnraine
phoney office, phoney sign, press conferences daily...

oh come on... there's a power vacuum...

~~~rolling eyes in sarcastic disgust~~~
Weena, and the Eloi, ask no questions. They just flitter around in gleeful anticipation of the promise of Obama's Eutopia. When the siren blares, they mindlessly march off to... where the siren beckons.

There's a power vacuum alright, and they are trying to suck our brains out with it.

47 posted on 11/26/2008 9:08:36 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Way to go BARNEY!! Barney for White House Press Secretary.)
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To: mkjessup; dascallie

If the birth certificate issue turns out to be valid, I’ll apologize to FR. :)


48 posted on 11/26/2008 9:12:20 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I would hope that you would.


49 posted on 11/26/2008 9:29:03 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: mkjessup

You might want to sit down.I think it will be awhile before they get back to ya.LOL


50 posted on 11/26/2008 9:29:22 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country; All

After much discussion on another thread, I’ve concluded that the job ain’t over yet.
We will have to push again to raise awareness of the awful constitutional and moral situation our country is in.

I’ll do my next batch of letters in the morning - after some sleep. But until then, here’s something I Bidenized from another thread - I do hope the originator forgives me.
__________________________________________________
He’s not president YET.
You can tuck tail and shulk away.
You can whine to the choir
or you can FIGHT.
As long as there is a chance that we can discredit and bring Obama down via his lying and the phoney BC, then we will pursue it.
Freedommarch.org
http://www.freedommarch.org/
ACTION CENTER
Action you can take today.
1. Inform McCain campaign to challenge the eligibility of Obama.
2. Forward this site to your friends and colleagues.
3. Join FreedomMarch.org
4. Direct other anti-Obama organizations to contact FreedomMarch.org. Alliances are forming.
5. Direct media to FreedomMarch.org
6. Blog like crazy. Talk about FreedomMarch.org
One Patriot can make an incredible difference. It may be you. We must act quickly. Work hard.
Patriot Volunteers are needed . Everyone can achieve much more than he/she may believe, and everyone may contribute in some fashion. No effort is too small or large. Currently, all hands are needed for the following duties:
Online Volunteer Recruitment
Online Promotion
Field Duties
State-level leaders
Editorial Contributors for Permanent FM.org site.
YouTube video producers
News watchers
Forum Moderators
Idea people
We need all your anti-Obama info for the new FM website: Videos, news articles, etc. Send links.
Thank You!
MCCAIN/REPUBLICAN PARTY
Fax: 202-228-2862
Send a fax FREE: https://faxzero.com/
rickdavis@johnmccain.com, ameese@mccain08hq.com, anickel@mccain08hq.com,
johnmccain@gop.com, info@gop.com,
RNCommunications@gop.com, Chairman@gop.com, Political@gop.com
Supreme Court Justice David Souter
Supreme Court of the United States
One First Street N.E.
Washington, DC 20543
Address of supreme court justice who is one of the justices who is in charge of the Berg case where BHO is supposed to show his birth certificate. All of us should take a minute and send a letter to this gentleman and encourage him to stand up for the Constitution of the United States of America
IMPORTANT
Be sure to add your name and town and email - or they won’t read them.
They won’t read mass emails so put just one email add in the “to” line then click on BBC at the end of that line. a BCC line will open just above subject line. copy paste the rest of the addresses in there and each recipient will see ONLY their name.
SIGN PETITION, SEND EMAILS TO REPRESENTATIVES; DEMAND BIRTH CERTIFICATE HERE:
SIGN PETITION:
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/
http://www.democratic-disaster.com/index.php?topic=318.msg990#msg990
Notify your representative that you demand Obama produce a birth certificate.
After you contact your Electors, Contact your U.S. Congress and Senate Representatives and ask them to keep their sworn oath to support and defend the Constitution!
Sign the petition and have the emails automatically sent to your Reps by clicking here: http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/
-OR- copy the letter below and mail it snail mail. Find your Reps Addresses on this site:http://www.visi.com/juan/congress
copy the letter below and mail it snail mail. Find your Reps Addresses on this site:http://www.visi.com/juan/congress
Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis
When you were first elected and as tradition requires you have sworn the oath: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me G-d.”
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”
There are numerous questions as to Obama’s citizen status raising suspicion and doubt about Obama constitutional qualification to be president. To settle these questions Mr. Obama must produce proof of citizenship!
Documents that must be produced include;
(a) a certified copy of “vault” (original long version) birth certificate;
(b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham;
(c) a certified copy Certification of Citizenship;
(d) a certified copy Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
(e) certified copies of admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and
(f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing his name from Barry Soetoro.
It is reasonable that these documents should be produced considering that his father is Kenyan, his adoptive father is Indonesian, and his grandmother claims to have been present at his birth in Kenya. If he is a natural born citizen then producing these documents should not be any problem.
These allegations will not go away until Mr. Obama produces proof to federal authorities and the public. If he will not do so voluntarily he must be compelled by every means available. You, as an employee of The People, have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution.
We The People are demanding you to make every effort, both public and private, to resolve this fundamental Constitutional question before 20 January.
To Send This Email In Seconds Click Here: http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/
http://www.democratic-disaster.com/index.php?topic=318.0
___________________________________________________

So we all voted Nov.4 - yet the obamination has slipped through. We have to keep the pressure on the courts, our reps, and the electors as much as possible. We have got to email/write and call them AGAIN to keep this fight alive.
It’s not enough to wipe our hands and say OH WELL.

The fight is not over and we have got to try all the harder to get the message out on this BC BS.

Please use the info above to make your contacts and please encourage your friends to do the same. I bet they have kids too. And I’ll bet those kids would grow up happier in a FREE country.
LETS DO IT AGAIN!!


51 posted on 11/26/2008 9:29:51 PM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: mkjessup

Take all the time you want.

Here is an African Cricket singing

52 posted on 11/26/2008 9:38:40 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: RoseofTexas

I hope this is successful and slaps down the dems a notch. Their messiah is a fraud.


53 posted on 11/26/2008 11:17:27 PM PST by television is just wrong (obama is going to pay my mortgage for me!)
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To: Windflier

“The Obamanation is everything we have claimed and suspected it to be. This isn’t some paranoid frenzy, or delusion on our part. They have proven their intent in word and in deed.

If history is allowed to repeat itself, and we go down the path it clearly predicts, then someone in some future time will peruse the words recorded on this website, and will realize that in the last days, there were some who saw it coming.”

You know, the men who trained those Arabs how to fly a plane only, not train to land, were afraid to say anyything for fear of looking ‘crazy’ and ‘paranoid’.


54 posted on 11/27/2008 3:57:54 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

Yes, I did my part on election day. I don’t think that my duty begins and ends in the voting booth.

I spent 8 years as an Army Reservist and defended my country and its freedom and liberty in an obvious way. I swore an oath to protect my country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I didn’t abdicate that duty when I left the service. I continue to support my country in the work I do. All of us who are productive citizens support our country.

Rolling over and taking whatever is dished out is not supporting my country. Continuing to challenge the lies of the left and the lies of the media is. You say you can’t draw any line, but you can. It is your choice where to draw it.

There is always a line. If your neighbor is grumpy, do you draw a line? How about if he uses foul language? How about if he uses it in front of your kids? How about if he makes threats? How about if hits you? How about if he hits your kids? Somewhere there is a line.

In the case of Obama, if it’s true that he is not a citizen, we are talking about violating the Constitution in a flagrant manner. If he gets away with that, he will push further and further until he is stopped.

What can you do? At the very least you can adopt an attitude of outrage. You continue to state publicly and rationally that his behavior is unacceptable. The left takes advantage of the fact that repeated lies become accepted as truth. We should at least continue to repeat the truth until it becomes accepted as truth.


55 posted on 11/27/2008 4:26:14 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: All

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No birth certificate. No peace.

DONATE
Help out the real patriots; the guys on the front line:

A few links to a few folks connected to this effort:
Leo Donofrio:
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/
USJF:
http://www.usjf.net/
The American Independent Party (CA):
http://aipca.org
The Maryland Independent Party:
http://www.marylandindependentparty.org/
Alan Keyes:
http://www.alankeyes.com
America’s Independent Party:
http://www.selfgovernment.us
http://www.AIPNEWS.com

FAX THIS LETTER TO CLARENCE THOMAS.
FREE FAX: http://faxzero.com/

The Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas
Supreme Court of the United States
One First Street N.E.
Washington, D.C. 20543

[Faxed to 202-479-2971]

Dear Justice Thomas

I respectfully request that you consider reviewing Docket No. 08A407 Leo C. Donofrio, Applicant v. Nina Mitchell Wells, New Jersey Secretary of State.

Our Constitution in Article II Section 1 Paragraph 5 states “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President”.

Mr. Donofrio represents a considerable number of citizens noting the conspicuous failure of the presidential-designate to produce sufficient proof of compliance with the above constitutional requirement.

The work of Mr. Ron Polarik has shown all Certificates of Live Birth to date to have been forgeries.

Thank you for your consideration of this extremely critical matter.

.

Freedommarch.org
http://www.freedommarch.org/

Freedommarch.org makes no vows to ‘accept’, ‘work with’ or ‘unite behind’ Obama, but to do everything they can to discredit and bring him down and fight his legislation.
They do NOT ask for money.

During Joe Thunder’s (head of FreedomMarch.Org)radio broadcast Tues. with Keyes’ lawyer, Kreep, he asked him what we could do to help him.
This was his reply:

1.Donate (lawsuit VERY expensive)
2.Spread the word about the bc suit
3.Email Debra Bowen, Sec. of State of California.
He asked that we not mention the suit or the attorneys or Keys. Ask her to uphold the constitution, do her job and be sure Obama is a citizen of the U.S.

Go to this page which contains an online form for an email for Debra Bowen:
http://www.sos.ca.gov/webcontact/general/question.aspx

ACTION CENTER- See website. Updated daily, radio broadcasts.

Action you can take today.

1. Inform McCain campaign to challenge the eligibility of Obama.
2. Forward this site to your friends and colleagues.
3. Join FreedomMarch.org
4. Direct other anti-Obama organizations to contact FreedomMarch.org. Alliances are forming.
5. Direct media to FreedomMarch.org
6. Blog like crazy. Talk about FreedomMarch.org

One Patriot can make an incredible difference. It may be you. We must act quickly. Work hard.

Patriot Volunteers are needed . Everyone can achieve much more than he/she may believe, and everyone may contribute in some fashion. No effort is too small or large. Currently, all hands are needed for the following duties:

Online Volunteer Recruitment
Online Promotion
Field Duties
State-level leaders
Editorial Contributors for Permanent FM.org site.
YouTube video producers
News watchers
Forum Moderators
Idea people
We need all your anti-Obama info for the new FM website: Videos, news articles, etc. Send links.
Thank You!

MCCAIN/REPUBLICAN PARTY
Fax: 202-228-2862
Send a fax FREE: https://faxzero.com/

rickdavis@johnmccain.com, ameese@mccain08hq.com, anickel@mccain08hq.com,
johnmccain@gop.com, info@gop.com,
RNCommunications@gop.com, Chairman@gop.com, Political@gop.com

Supreme Court Justice David Souter
Supreme Court of the United States
One First Street N.E.
Washington, DC 20543

Address of supreme court justice who is one of the justices who is in charge of the Berg case where BHO is supposed to show his birth certificate. All of us should take a minute and send a letter to this gentleman and encourage him to stand up for the Constitution of the United States of America

IMPORTANT
Be sure to add your name and town and email - or they won’t read them.
They won’t read mass emails so put just one email add in the “to” line then click on BBC at the end of that line. a BCC line will open just above subject line. copy paste the rest of the addresses in there and each recipient will see ONLY their name.

SIGN PETITION, SEND EMAILS TO REPRESENTATIVES; DEMAND BIRTH CERTIFICATE HERE:

SIGN PETITION:
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

http://www.democratic-disaster.com/index.php?topic=318.msg990#msg990

Notify your representative that you demand Obama produce a birth certificate.

After you contact your Electors, Contact your U.S. Congress and Senate Representatives and ask them to keep their sworn oath to support and defend the Constitution!

Sign the petition and have the emails automatically sent to your Reps by clicking here: http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

-OR- copy the letter below and mail it snail mail. Find your Reps Addresses on this site:http://www.visi.com/juan/congress

Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis

When you were first elected and as tradition requires you have sworn the oath: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me G-d.”

Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”

There are numerous questions as to Obama’s citizen status raising suspicion and doubt about Obama constitutional qualification to be president. To settle these questions Mr. Obama must produce proof of citizenship!

Documents that must be produced include;
(a) a certified copy of “vault” (original long version) birth certificate;
(b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham;
(c) a certified copy Certification of Citizenship;
(d) a certified copy Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
(e) certified copies of admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and
(f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing his name from Barry Soetoro.

It is reasonable that these documents should be produced considering that his father is Kenyan, his adoptive father is Indonesian, and his grandmother claims to have been present at his birth in Kenya. If he is a natural born citizen then producing these documents should not be any problem.

These allegations will not go away until Mr. Obama produces proof to federal authorities and the public. If he will not do so voluntarily he must be compelled by every means available. You, as an employee of The People, have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution.

We The People are demanding you to make every effort, both public and private, to resolve this fundamental Constitutional question before 20 January.

To Send This Email In Seconds Click Here: http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

http://www.democratic-disaster.com/index.php?topic=318.0

ElRushbo@eibnet.com,
me@glennbeck.com,
Hannity@foxnews.com,
Friends@foxnews.com,
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Jamie@foxnews.com,
Feedback@foxnews.com,
Viewerservices@foxnews.com,
FNS@foxnews.com, Newswatch@foxnews.co, Foxreport@foxnews.com

.


56 posted on 11/27/2008 5:38:24 AM PST by patriot08
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To: hinckley buzzard
Let it go. You could present stone cold proof that Obama was born on the planet Mars and no court in this "Nation of Laws" would bat an eye before dismissing you to the outer darkness. I wish it were otherwise but that's the fact of the matter.

That's just what they want you to do: give up before they are forced into choosing one side or the other on the matter.

The whole purpose of this is to force those who have raised their hand to defend the Constitution to actually do it and prove that they are worthy of the office that they hold -- OR by failing in their duty to prove that they have sworn falsely and are thus unworthy of the office that they hold.

They want us to give up and sit down and shut up so that they don't have to make a tough decision, the kind of tough decision that they are all paid to make and that they swore on the Bible before God and the people to make along the lines of the Constitution. They all need to do their duty before God or resign.

57 posted on 11/27/2008 5:50:42 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

“Get used to it, and perhaps learn to duck and cover.”

Hmmmmm....NAH!


58 posted on 11/27/2008 6:00:17 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: EveningStar
It’s for the tinfoil hat crowd.

No -- tinfoil is for leftovers that turn stale and moldy and are eventually thrown away -- like the stale brains of those leftover freepers unable to grasp the importance of this issue.

While our Constitution unfortunately does not prohibit a Marxist from assuming the office of POTUS, it does prohibit a Marxist who is not a natural born citizen from assuming that office.

220 years ago our forefathers gave us the ammunition to be used to protect the Republic from just this kind of coup. That ammunition is the phrase "natural born citizen".

Use it or lose it.

59 posted on 11/27/2008 6:10:12 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Lisa_from Buckeye Country

So we should all crawl into our basements and hide??? Go ahead — go duck and cover and see if that will save you in the day of trouble.


60 posted on 11/27/2008 6:13:21 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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