"NO! WAIT! YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG! LISTEN TO ME!!!"
Posted on 11/27/2008 1:26:22 AM PST by ScaniaBoy
The President-Elect's intention to shift the focus of the fight against terrorism to Afghanistan has been bolstered by Robert Gates agreement to stay on as Defence Secretary.
Mr Gates is a strong believer in an Afghan surge, which would not only put thousands more boots on the ground but involve negotiations with malleable branches of the Taliban. It would also aim to boost co-operation with Iran and Pakistan where some elements have supported the anti-Western insurgency.
The need for more US troops in addition to the 32,000 already serving, has been accelerated by the Afghan presidential election in September 2009, and the voter registration process that begins in the New Year, Mr Gates said.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
I think this article should be contrasted with Rumsfeldt's oped piece in NYT. I posted a link to it in comment #10 here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2138191/posts
PS: It will be fun to see the Europeans squirm when their hero Obama will request more troops from THEM to reinforce the international force in Afghanistan.
Are they the ones we've been waiting for?
Didn’t Kharzai just say today that he wanted the US out of Afghanistan ASAP?
LOL!
Am I wrong in thinking the ONE was against the surge in Iraq ? Did the ONE did not say the surge was not working ?
Maybe I am wrong again, but, it seems the ONE is turning into George W Bush,. At last the ONE has seen the light in following the former President of America way of fighting Islamic terror.
"NO! WAIT! YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG! LISTEN TO ME!!!"
The Dems have been militant when it comes to Afghanistan and Pakistan, but pacifist on Iraq. Go figure.
They are never pacifist. They are just stabbing the military in the back whenever it fits them politically (whenver a Republican is in charge).
It’s simply because they want to do anything opposite of George W. Bush. Had he put all our efforts in Afghanistan and nowhere else, they would have been totally against it.
“Interesting. Is this the right strategy? “
Yup. It’s made possible by Bush prosecuting a successful war in Iraq so Obama has it easy. I think the decision is a big duh and is pretty much what would have happened had McCain been elected.
We can now move from success to success. It also keeps lots of boots on the ground in the middle east in case Iran gets frisky.
I don’t even mind letting BO have credit for it, if he will just prosecute the WOT. That’s despite that Bush and Petraeus made it all possible and despite that my nine year old could make the same decision with no difficulty.
He’s a democrat. He should be rewarded with praise and cookies for not making terrible decisions in foreign policy because all of his inclinations and all of the pressure from the folks who got him to the white house will be for him to make terrible decisions.
Check out some of the Viper Company videos on Youtube. You will see one of the soldiers say it is one step forward five steps back. The locals help the Taliban. You can give them all the free school supplies you want and it is not going to change. One of the reports shows that all the young men have left a village to support the insurgents.
I have been sending care packages to these outposts. They face tough conditions and do not have adequate number of soldiers or supplies. A 1st Lt recently posted on Anysoldier.com and they have very little. He was even asking for something as simple as nails.
Someone got a deal on those blankets you see at Walmart and is sending them a 100 according to a post on that site.
It is a losing battle with the amount of troops we have over there..but not sure 20,000 more will make a difference.
However, the political situation, both locally and nationally appears to me to be much worse in Afghanistan than in Iraq at the moment. On the other hand a few years ago the Iraqi situation was the one that was really worrisome.
So, the question that has to be answered is whether a troop surge will remedy both the military and political situation in Afghanistan?
Is this what His Excellency Barack Hussein Obama Dada needs his "Civilian Security Force" for? Negotiating with the Taliban terrorists?
Hey! There’s a catchy name! Idi Obama Da Da, President for Life.
Afghanistan never attacked us...
Impeach the warmonger Obama!
(grin!) I thought he might like it: it's suits his style.
I intend to use it this way:
"His Excellency" <--- Shorthand version
"His Excellency Barack Hussein Obama Dada" <--- Longer version
"Field Marshall" <--- When acting as Commander-in-Chief
"His Excellency President For Life Field Marshall Al Hadji Doctor Barack Hussein Obama Dada, VC, DSO, MC, King of Scotland, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fish of the Sea, Burden of the White Oppressors and Conquerer of the Constitution of the United Emirate of America." <--- Formal version
That way I can always show a suitable amount of Respect for America's first President for Life.
God Bless America
*DieHard*
I WOULD NOT be surprised if barry called a “do over” and stepped down....or released his real birth certificate showing he is NOT eligible to be President.
They got his title wrong, it is Mr. Obama.
You mean Obama.
Thats because W's war in Iraq shut off Hussein's (Saddam) oil for food payments to the democrats.
“They got his title wrong, it is Mr. Obama.
You mean Obama.”
I have to laugh at my 86 year old grandfather. He’s still sharp as a tack, but he just CANNOT remember the new ‘president elect’s’ name.
He calls him ‘Obongo’. I’ve stopped correcting him.
I’ve decided I like it. It fits him. LOL
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They should flatten the mountains Afghanistan in a month long , round the clock bombing raid and then come home.
Yea, I’m sure when he had his first security meeting they must have laid a big dose of reality on his ass , telling him about things none of us know about. Probably shook up the amateur Obama. I wouldn’t doubt he’s nervous as hell .
What’s the matter Barry , it’s a big bad world out there and you’re the leader. HAHHAHAH fraud that he is .
Please support our troops.
Oh I’m positive that the very moves that Bush made that were protested heavily by the left will be welcomed as brilliant when Obama pulls them off.The left are total frauds .
How many hundreds of thousands of innocent afghani citizens will be slaughtered by us forces as a result of this? /sarasm
Therefore I think your question is very relevant.
It is funny...not ha ha funny, but the other one! He looks and sounds very nervous, not a good thing to be when you’re the most powerful leader in the world and have millions upon millions of jihadists that want your butt toasted!
Looks like WE THE PEOPLE are going to have to fight this battle!
It is a losing battle with the amount of troops we have over there..but not sure 20,000 more will make a difference.’
20,000 more Predators might make a difference.......
Isn't it funny how he said a surge in Iraq would never work but now that he will be the one in charge(puke) he thinks we need a surge in Afghanistan.
‘Obongo’
LOL I like that too.
I have another for you. I call Chicago - “Chicongo”. The two certainly go together.
Also funny is the fact that he doesn't do his own thinking - he has to copy President "BUSH". Where is this brilliant (</sarcasm>) dunce's change, he was talking about.
I can see no other use for it except to be used against the American people to quell an uprising against the government. If it's a police force it is not government by the "Passe comitatus Act". nd would be controlled by the federal government (Obama).
We already have the State Police in Each State, the sheriff's police in each county, and city police in each city, all under local control.
I can see no other use for it except to be used against the American people to quell an uprising against the government. If it's a police force it is not governed by the "Passe comitatus Act". nd would be controlled by the federal government (Obama).
We already have the State Police in Each State, the sheriff's police in each county, and city police in each city, all under local control.
They should flatten the mountains Afghanistan in a month long , round the clock bombing raid and then come home.
The Russians tried that already.
LBJ already did that in Nam.
But as they say: History repeats itself.
> Don’t know whether this is a legitimate claim, but many people do see opportunity for personal gain in accidents.
It is the hallmark of Dictators worldwide and from time immemorial to establish a well-provisioned armed force loyal to them and to them only.
An early example of that was the Praetorian Guard.
This “Civilian Security Force” is His Excellency’s very own Praetorian Guard. What are the odds that, aside from being used against the populace, they will supplant the Secret Service and the Marines in Presidential guard duty?
I’d say he’d be silly not to do that. His Excellency is many things, but he is no fool.
> The Russians tried that already.
> LBJ already did that in Nam.
> But as they say: History repeats itself.
IMO wars are not won with bombs but with boot-leather. (Yes, that even applies to WW-II)
Somehow, someday, the time will come for somebody to send Infantry in to Afghanistan and take the place over, no matter how hard it gets bombed.
The infantry there right now is doing a good job: they are where they need to be. If anything they need more Infantry and fewer bombs, IMO.
LOL
Obongo from
Chicongo.
I’d say he’d be silly not to do that. His Excellency is many things, but he is no fool.
That will need to be proved.
meanwhile:
20,000 Muslims Attack a Church in Cairo
Islam in Action | Nov. 27Th 2008 | Christopher Logan
Posted on 11/27/2008 1:56:36 PM PST by Islaminaction
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2139297/posts
-and whereas, this is cool-
Coalition Provides Medical Aid to Afghan Woman, Baby
American Forces Press Service
Posted on 11/28/2008 5:59:34 AM PST by SandRat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2139526/posts
-this is more ROP in action-
British soldiers attacked by furious mob in Kabul
after American troops ‘ram minibus off road killing one’
by Jerome Starkey
Last updated at 1:46 PM on 28th November 2008
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
http://tinyurl.com/minibusriotinkabul
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