You just need to give this up. He's President for at least four years.
If there is an arcane question as to whether he's a citizen based on complex interpretations of immigration laws, or whatever, then allow a court to overturn the will of the people on such a technicality would be undemocratic.
I don’t like the guy either, but based on personal experience you are correct. My wife’s parents are both US citizens, but have been missionaries in Mexico for the last 49 yrs. My wife was born in Mexico City, but is still recognized by the US government as a natural born US citizen.
Well, how is that will of the people looking after three weeks of watching this incompetent boob in action as President-elect? He will get some of those people killed. If it takes enforcing some “arcane”, but, constitutional requirement to save us from ourselves, count me in.
There were residency requirements at the time that his mother did not meet. The issue is preserving the integrity of our Constitutional is at stake. Otherwise the precedent will leave the presidency open to foreigners with evil money.
He’d be a US citizen if he was born on the moon.
That maybe. But the question is does he meet the qualification of ‘natural born’ as set out in the US Constitution? Has that term ‘natural born’ ever been defined by a court of law or written into legislation?
You maybe correct that he’ll be the next President sworn in but I still think there are items that will be or should be decided at some point along the way. jmo.
“Guys, his mother was a US Citizen. He’s was born a US Citizen. He’d be a US citizen if he was born on the moon.”
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It is not too late to write your Senators, Representatives, and the Supreme Court Justices. This is too important to be silent or uninvolved.
The Constitution states that the President must be a natural born U.S. citizen, that means born on U.S. soil. No spinning, no creative interpretations, it means what it means. Lower courts may have ruled in the past what defines ‘natural born’ but the Supreme Court of the United States has NOT made such a ruling to the best of my knowledge.
The Founding Fathers did not say that it means “if you are born overseas to American parents”, and they did not say “if you were born in Kenya, slipped back into Hawaii, then put into Muslim schools in Indonesia, then assumed several variations/aliases for your legal name.”
Try using logic: If 0bama has nothing to hide, why not authorize the release of the original ‘vault’ copy of his birth certificate, currently under seal by the Governor of Hawaii?
The fact is, this article is 100 percent correct: NO other presidential candidate in the history of our Nation has attempted to hide and obscure the details of their birth, nor have they gone to such lengths to fight all attempts to learn those details, which are in the public interest.
“Lies have to be covered up, Truth can run around naked.”
- the late Johnny Cash in ‘The Farmer’s Almanac - 1991’
No, Obama is The One who should have given up his birth certificate and then this whole matter and "technicalities" would be unnecessary. Seeking the highest office in the land and the most powerful position in the world is asking people to place complete trust in you. Withholding any information raises questions about that trust. What is there to hide?
If there is an arcane question as to whether he's a citizen based on complex interpretations of immigration laws,
There is no complex interpretation The law is quite explicit:
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.
She did not live in the US for 5 years after the age of 14 before he was born. If he was born overseas, not only would he not have "natural born" citizenship, he would not have US citizenship.
Uh, huh...that's why he's spent a million bucks to keep it nice and tucked away.
Yup, makes sense to me.
Sorry NYFriend but you are incorrect.
A US citizen is NOT a Natural Born citizen. There is a lawful difference and it’s not a ‘technicality’.
This is all about his father not being a US citizen. Birth location is irrelevant. His mother could have been 35 and passed her US citizenship onto him at birth but that still wouldn’t make him a Natural Born citizen because his father wasn’t a citizen of the US.
It’s really quite simple...
Have you read your Constitution lately???? Is what is in there a mere "arcane technicality"???? Are we a nation with an enduring Constitution or have we evolved into a nation that is willing to throw it away and adopt mob rule??? Think it through --- carefully.
A “citizen” yes-—
But Constitutionally eligible to be President?
I don’t think so.
There are a number of other threads on this topic.
If you read them elsewhere, you might find out the difference between being a citizen and being eligible.
Arnold S is a citizen— he cannot be President.
I have a friend here in the USA from Sweden. He is a citizen now. He cannot be President.
If there is an arcane question as to whether he’s a citizen based on complex interpretations of immigration laws, or whatever, then allow a court to overturn the will of the people on such a technicality would be undemocratic.””
I disagree with your “will of the people” comment.
The “people” were given a candidate who was very likely not eligible in the first place.
Therefore- the people were duped.
If the information had been out there in the media and the people had still been allowed to “vote” for NObama, I think the “will of the people” would have had a different outcome.
This is a hoax, IMO. No different than some of the internet scams from Nigeria.
Actually you are totally wrong....but don't let it stop you...You're on a roll...!!
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You are over-simplifiying this my friend. There are some legalities here. In the 60s if the “American Citizen-parent” had not resided within the United States within (I think) the last 18 months, the child was NOT automatically a U.S. citizen.
Surely the Attorneys who will be presenting this to the Supremes on Dec. 5th have more “facts” about this case than we do and they have a case or it would have never made it to the SCOTUS. You’re over-simplifying, as I said, but, having said all of that, I still don’t think this will void his election. That would cause a Civil War.