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Chretien, Broadbent brokering possible coalition (SOCIALIST COUP BREWING IN CANADA)
http://ca.news.yahoo.com ^ | Nov.29 2008 | Canadian Press

Posted on 11/28/2008 8:31:26 AM PST by Para-Ord.45

NDP Leader Jack Layton has enlisted one of his predecessors to sound out former prime minister Jean Chretien on the possibility of a Liberal-New Democrat coalition government.

A senior NDP official told The Canadian Press that Ed Broadbent spoke to Chretien at least four times after Finance Minister Jim Flaherty delivered an economic update that threatened to bankrupt the opposition parties.

...The opposition parties all say Flaherty's mini-budget, which strictly limits federal spending, bans public-sector strikes through 2011, and denies federal parties $30 million in annual funding, is ideologically driven and offers no stimulus package to deal with the economic crisis.

The annual funding issue is a potentially lethal poison pill that would financially cripple every party except the Tories.

(Excerpt) Read more at ca.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: harper; layton; socialists
LET`S BE CLEAR. THE SOCIALIST LEFT IS ATTEMPTING A COUP ONLY BECAUSE THEIR WELFARE PAYMENTS THAT PROP UP THEIR PARTIES ARE IN JEOPARDY.ADDED TO THAT IS THE FACT THEY WANT A "STIMULUS" PACKAGE THAT MIMICS THAT OF THE USA, IN OTHER WORDS MASSIVE CORPORATE WELFARE THAT BANKRUPTS THE COUNTRY.
1 posted on 11/28/2008 8:31:27 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

It’s not a “coup.” It’s the function of a parliamentary democracy.


2 posted on 11/28/2008 8:33:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Para-Ord.45
"Subsidies entail politicians’ taking the citizen’s paycheck and then using it to buy his submission."-James Bovard.
3 posted on 11/28/2008 8:37:36 AM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: 1rudeboy

Then help me out, when was the last time it occurred in Canada?


4 posted on 11/28/2008 8:40:29 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45; fanfan

I’ll see if I can find some Canadians to help.


5 posted on 11/28/2008 8:42:44 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
It’s not a “coup.” It’s the function of a parliamentary democracy.

Oh great, you again. So now you're an expert on Canadian politics?
6 posted on 11/28/2008 8:50:05 AM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: 1rudeboy

LOL

You don`t know. You feigned knowing but you really do not know.

Answer: NEVER


7 posted on 11/28/2008 8:54:42 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
Then help me out, when was the last time it occurred in Canada?

To the best of my knowledge it is unprecedented. In the last Canadian elections, Harper and his Conservatives gained seats in Parliament, and although they remain a minority government, their overall strength was increased.

What Harper is seeking to do (IMHO) is to push the Lieberals, the NDP'ers and the Bloc-heads to actually cause the collapse of the government, forcing a snap election and Harper's campaign theme would be "We tried to put an end to political parties picking your pocket to the tune of 30 million a year, but Stephan Dion, Jack Layton and Giles Duceppe think they're entitled to your money and intend to keep your cash flowing into their coffers"

That kind of theme would resonate with voters and could likely return Harper's Conservatives to power with an unassailable majority government.

The only possible hangup would be if the little DICKtator Jean Chretien and Comrade Jack Layton's NDP were able to convince the Governor-General to approve of a coalition government, that could toss Harper and the Conservatives out of power without the benefit of an election.

In Canada, the Liberals have always thought they had a birthright to ruling the Country, the NDP (with the exception of Darrel Dexter in Nova Scotia) is ideologically in lockstep with the Liberals except they want to go even further to the left, and the Bloc Quebecois are out after what they're always out for, more money/goodies and/or independence for Quebec.

The Conservatives are the only damn honest political party Canada has. Shame on all Canadians if they allow them to be thrown out.
8 posted on 11/28/2008 8:59:40 AM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: Para-Ord.45; 1rudeboy
LOL
You don`t know. You feigned knowing but you really do not know.
Answer: NEVER


Heh, heh, meet 'Professor Irwin 'rudeboy' Corey, the world's foremost authority, LOL
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9 posted on 11/28/2008 9:02:27 AM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

AIN’T GOING TO HAPPEN!

Such a ‘coup’ would require the Bloc to prop up the unholy devil’s breakfast alliance of Grits and Waffles(Inside Canadian joke).

This would blow Quebec politics up in the midst of a provincial election.

To reiterate:

AIN’T GOING TO HAPPEN!


10 posted on 11/28/2008 9:03:16 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: 1rudeboy; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...
Thanks for the ping, 1rudeboy.


11 posted on 11/28/2008 9:51:33 AM PST by fanfan
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To: Para-Ord.45; 1rudeboy

1 rude boy is right.

When a minority government loses the “confidence” of the house, or doesn’t feel it can govern properly, the opposition parties can form a coalition, and ask the governor general to allow them to form the government.
She can allow this, or refuse, and force a new election.


12 posted on 11/28/2008 9:54:56 AM PST by fanfan
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To: Para-Ord.45

It happened in Ontario in 1985- the Progressive Conservative Party won a plurality of seats in the Legislator and also won the popular vote, but were ousted by a coalition by the Liberals and NDP.


13 posted on 11/28/2008 9:58:44 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: mkjessup
Arthur Meighen led two short lived Conservative governments. The first was a majority at the end of 13th parliament, elected in 1917 under the Unionist ticket. The second government was a minority in 1926. Meighen's conservatives won a plurality of the seats in the previous 1925 election, however a government was instead formed via an agreement between the Liberals and Progressives. After King's Liberals had lost the progressives' support he requested parliament to be dissolved by then governor general, Lord Byng, resulting in the King-Byng Affair. The resulting conflict caused King to shortly resign as prime minister, and Byng subsequently appointed Meighen as prime minister. On July 1, 1926, a week after Byng appointed him prime minister, Meighen lost a confidence vote in the House of Commons resulting in the 1926 election.

Link

14 posted on 11/28/2008 10:00:40 AM PST by fanfan
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To: Para-Ord.45

This would be a disaster for the Liberals and NDP. We just went through an election and a lot of people would not be happy doing it again. They would be portrayed as money grubbing and anti-democratic with some truth to it. I also wonder what the Bloc would have to gain by supporting such a deal. They would gain more by playing power broker, and siding with the Conservatives after extracting concessions out of them.

Of course people don’t always do the logical thing.


15 posted on 11/28/2008 10:10:20 AM PST by Sharrukin
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To: 1rudeboy

They don’t seem to be rushing back to apologize to you....


16 posted on 11/28/2008 10:34:50 AM PST by fanfan
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To: headsonpikes
AIN’T GOING TO HAPPEN!

True. But perhaps the wrong reason

The government won't include a controversial proposal to end public subsidies of political parties in an upcoming confidence vote on the fall fiscal update, a spokesman for the Prime Minister's Office confirmed Friday.

17 posted on 11/28/2008 10:37:24 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: Para-Ord.45

I guess they think that Obama’s win in the US would give them a better chance. I hope it falis.

I hope america wakes up in 2010 and routes out all leftist/democrats. I have no heartburn with true democrats, especially those who are pro-life, pro-family values, etc. I hope that with the ekection of Obama, people really understand how they were hoodwinked into thinking there was going to be a change for good and realize that the only way out is to oust all leftists from Congress, and then eventually the WH.


18 posted on 11/28/2008 10:43:38 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: mkjessup

“The only possible hangup would be if the little DICKtator Jean Chretien and Comrade Jack Layton’s NDP were able to convince the Governor-General to approve of a coalition government, that could toss Harper and the Conservatives out of power without the benefit of an election.”

Seems unlikely, given that the Liberals and NDP together would still have fewer seats than the Conservatives.

Pushing the other parties to call a snap election on this issue could backfire on the Conservatives, if the electorate perceives it as the Conservatives having forced it. That assumes, of course, that the electorate has any sympathy for Canada’s political parties being cut off from public funding. They might just, though - seeing this as the Conservatives playing hardball politics at a time when there are more important issues at stake.

The Liberals calling for an economic stimulus package is laughable, of course, given that they were criticizing the Conservatives for their spendthrift ways just a couple of months ago in the last election - but then again the average voter seems to have a very short memory for most things (although it took them a long time to forgive the PCs for the GST).


19 posted on 11/28/2008 11:12:54 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: fanfan; mkjessup

That’s because one of them I know for a fact to be mentally retarded. I tolerate him out of respect for his condition.


20 posted on 11/28/2008 2:32:56 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Para-Ord.45

I didn’t “feign” that I knew . . . why do you think I pinged a Canadian? I did know that it’s happened in the past, but that’s because I know what a parliamentary democracy is and you do not. (Until now, at least).


21 posted on 11/28/2008 2:35:05 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: fanfan
They don’t seem to be rushing back to apologize to you....

That's because the poster in question is a self described rude 'boy', is quick to whine about 'ad hominems' (check their posting history), and generally has nothing of substance to say.
22 posted on 11/28/2008 3:06:11 PM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: mkjessup; fanfan
Why don't you ask fanfan to place you on the Canada ping list? We need more women.
23 posted on 11/28/2008 3:12:41 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
That’s because one of them I know for a fact to be mentally retarded. I tolerate him out of respect for his condition.

No kidding. Hey, is this you?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1rudeboy/2457842364/

If so, you look like quite the happy couple.
24 posted on 11/28/2008 3:14:08 PM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: 1rudeboy; fanfan
Why don't you ask fanfan to place you on the Canada ping list? We need more women.

I was on the Canada ping list for a long time, as fanfan could tell you. You need to pay attention and try to keep up. As for you needing more women, it looks like you might already have plenty to handle as referenced in my post #24 just above.
25 posted on 11/28/2008 3:17:27 PM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: mkjessup

Nope, not me . . . but they do look happy. I can understand why you’re miffed about it.


26 posted on 11/28/2008 3:17:48 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
There you go again, making statements without any basis in fact. Nothing I've said would suggest I was 'miffed' about anything. But you (as always) assume something which you know nothing about.

If you had a mind, you would no doubt be a legend within it.
27 posted on 11/28/2008 3:19:27 PM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: mkjessup

You were on the Canada ping list and you don’t understand how a parliamentary democracy operates? How embarrassing.


28 posted on 11/28/2008 3:20:22 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mkjessup

Come off it. You’ve been PMS-ing since comment #6. I’m just not sympathetic. Perhaps you can find a Menopause thread?


29 posted on 11/28/2008 3:22:00 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Nothing to be embarrassed about at all. The fact is, I probably follow what happens north of the border more closely than you do.

As a matter of fact, Prime Minister Stephen Harper gave a live address tonight condemning the back room deal that the Liberals and NDP are trying to cook up to seize power.

But you probably missed that didn’t you?


30 posted on 11/28/2008 3:24:51 PM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: mkjessup; 1rudeboy

Mike, I like 1 rudeboy’s posts.

Maybe you two got in a stupid argument once, or something a long time ago...I don’t know.

Maybe you two just don’t get along. That happens.

In any event, he was right.

Happy Thanksgiving, Mike.
:-)


31 posted on 11/28/2008 3:25:00 PM PST by fanfan
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To: fanfan

My name ain’t Mike.


32 posted on 11/28/2008 3:29:20 PM PST by mkjessup (Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT - see my FR home page for a tribute to a REAL Patriot.)
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To: mkjessup

I realized that.

Sorry.

Regardless, 1rudeboy was right, and all you are doing is attacking him.

Take a deep breath FRiend, it’s not worth it.
I’ve been wrong here before, (once or twice, ahem), and the best solution for me has been to thank the person who supplied me with the true facts.
Because, mkjessup, the truth is what matters.

fanfan.


33 posted on 11/28/2008 3:35:21 PM PST by fanfan
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To: 1rudeboy

Sorry, you `re still wrong. Minority governments were created after elections and before any Throne Speech.

What is happening now is a political coup after a minority government has been formed and after Throne Speeches.

So as they say, vous ette plein du marde.


34 posted on 11/28/2008 4:44:52 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: fanfan

Nope, minority governments were created after elections and before any Throne Speech.

What is happening now is a political coup after a minority government has been formed and after Throne Speeches.


35 posted on 11/28/2008 4:45:35 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: -YYZ-

The Conservatives have deferred the public financing of politicians for a separate vote. So the opposition parties won’t be able to bring down the gov’t on that issue while pretending it’s something else.

A NDP - Bloc - Liberal coalition, or as Canadians would recognize them Socialist - Separatist - Corrupt, would be a frankenstein monster coalition gov’t.

The only issue that unites them is welfare for politicians.


36 posted on 11/29/2008 7:12:52 AM PST by Reverend Wright (Promise #1: public financing; Promise #2: middle class tax cut?)
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To: fanfan

On October 14th, Canadians passed judgment on the Liberals.

The Liberals have no mandate to lead a government.

The Liberals have no mandate to cut a deal with the NDP.

And the Liberals certainly do not have a mandate to cut a deal with the separatists who want to destroy our country.

This backroom deal is so unprecedented and so undemocratic that Canadians must have their say.

This is Canada. The privilege to govern must be earned, not taken. We cannot let this happen.

Sincerely,

Irving Gerstein,C.M., O.Ont
Chair, Conservative Fund Canada


37 posted on 11/30/2008 9:14:50 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: 1rudeboy

On October 14th, Canadians passed judgment on the Liberals.

The Liberals have no mandate to lead a government.

The Liberals have no mandate to cut a deal with the NDP.

And the Liberals certainly do not have a mandate to cut a deal with the separatists who want to destroy our country.

This backroom deal is so UNPRECEDENTED and so undemocratic that Canadians must have their say.

This is Canada. The privilege to govern must be earned, not taken. We cannot let this happen.

Sincerely,

Irving Gerstein,C.M., O.Ont
Chair, Conservative Fund Canada


38 posted on 11/30/2008 9:15:36 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

As posted above it’s happened before.

“Noun Coup - a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force”

This is not illegal, nor by force, but by the co-operation of the opposition parties.

I hope it doesn’t happen, but it’s not a coup in the way you mean it.


39 posted on 11/30/2008 9:42:58 AM PST by fanfan
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To: Para-Ord.45

Oh fer cryin’ out loud. Can’t Harper call another election? I understand that the Canadians are heading into uncharted waters but for cripe’s sake they should take their skirts off instead of complaining that the opposition is forming a coalition.


40 posted on 11/30/2008 10:39:34 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: fanfan

” This is not illegal, nor by force, but by the co-operation of the opposition parties.
I hope it doesn’t happen, but it’s not a coup in the way you mean it.”

You`re attempting to back away from your statement that it has happened before after a Gvt has been seated and after a Throne Speech has been given. As was stated by an official Conservative press release, it is “unprecedented”.

I used the term coup in a political sense to garner attention to the unprecedented move by the socialist/neo-marxist left.


41 posted on 11/30/2008 3:37:20 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Canada’s unfailingly acerbic website smalldeadanimals is running a contest to name the proposed unholy alliance - “Coalition of the Swilling” has the lead. ;^)

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/


42 posted on 11/30/2008 3:50:16 PM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I see your point, but the option is there in a parliamentary system.

The King-Byng affair was an example of this happening before.

I’ll get back to you tomorrow.

:-)


43 posted on 11/30/2008 4:20:34 PM PST by fanfan
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To: fanfan

“The King-Byng affair was an example of this happening before.”

You are stating king seated a govt.,had a throne speech and then was toppled?


44 posted on 11/30/2008 5:07:19 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
Link

Mackenzie King's Liberals had come to office in December of 1921 (party standings: Liberals 117, Progressives 65, Conservatives 50, Labor 2, and Independent 1) but had been unable to achieve a majority because the Western provinces had supported a third party which promised reforms demanded in the West. Despite its minority position, the King government stayed in power until 1925 particularly because the Progressives continuously supported them. An election was called by King for October 29, 1925, under the pretext that the government lacked “a clear majority” and could not dispatch certain important business. The voters responded poorly to the appeal of the government. The results were: Conservatives 116, Liberals 101, Progressives 24, Labor 2, Independents 2.

Three courses of action were open to King (who had suffered personal defeat): 1) resignation; 2) immediate dissolution of the newly elected Parliament; 3) meeting the House of Commons to see if it would give him its confidence. King chose the third course of action and the government that he led was repeatedly sustained in the House of Commons in the early months of 1926. In the spring of that year, the Conservatives unearthed a serious scandal in the Customs department. A House Committee investigated the matter and, after the report was presented to the House, a Conservative member, H.H. Stevens, presented a motion that amounted to a vote of non-confidence in the government. Under the circumstances, King was losing the support of the Progressives and asked the Governor-General, Lord Byng, to dissolve Parliament. The Governor-General refused. Shortly after, King presented an Order in Council dissolving Parliament for the Governor's signature. He refused to sign it. The government then resigned and Byng asked Arthur Meighen to form a government.

When the House met the Progressives initially supported the new government but five days later it was defeated on a motion that questioned the legality of the government. Meighen asked for a dissolution of Parliament which he received. The election which followed was fought over: 1) the legality of the Meighen government; 2) the position that the Governor-General had taken in refusing the advice of his Council.

Whatever the constitutional issues involved, the Canadian people blamed the Governor-General and Meighen, and King was returned to office (Liberals 128, Conservatives 91, Progressives 30, Others 6). The Canadian people had vindicated King who had claimed that Meighen and Byng had acted improperly and had undermined responsible government in Canada. The electoral decision might have been politically wise but it was constitutionally unsound. The Governor-General might not have acted wisely but there is no doubt that he had the right, given the circumstances, to refuse to follow King's advice. It is one of the royal prerogatives that, given certain circumstances such as those under discussion here, it can refuse to follow the advice of the Cabinet to dissolve Parliament and can choose an individual who has a reasonable chance to be supported by the House to lead the government.

45 posted on 12/01/2008 6:06:46 AM PST by fanfan
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To: Para-Ord.45
There is also this from Ontario.

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So we’re discussing the election, and I told tales from ancient days, 1985, the time before history began. That’s when I was Queen’s Park bureau chief for The London Free Press, and spent Ontario election night in Muskoka, where Conservative Premier Frank Miller had kept alive the Big Blue Machine’s 42-year streak by winning the provincial election.

Alas for the Tories, Miller had won 52 seats, but Ontario had 125 seats then. Liberal David Peterson had 48, and NDP leader Bob Rae had 25.

Miller formed a government, there was a throne speech, and the required eight days of debate on the throne speech. Then Peterson and Rae moved non-confidence, and brought down the government.

But Peterson and Rae also told the lieutenant-governor that Peterson was prepared to form a government, and that Rae was prepared to support that government. And thus Peterson became premier, without Ontario voters having to trot straight back to the polls.

Yes, we could also have discussed 1926, and Byng, King and Meighen, but that’s for another chat.

I’m not saying that the 1985 scenario will play out after Tuesday night’s votes are counted, but it’s one possibility to watch for, maybe even discuss in social studies class Tuesday — a teachable moment about the role, responsibilities and duties of the governor general.

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46 posted on 12/01/2008 6:11:06 AM PST by fanfan
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To: fanfan

Already aware of it. Fact is the present government has been seated, cabinets positions given and taken and a Throne Speech also given. All not done under King.

So, as I`ve already stated also, never been done, unprecedented.


47 posted on 12/01/2008 9:48:57 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Interesting times, no doubt. If the Liberals, backed by the NDP and Bloc, do manage to form a government I don’t expect it to all hold together for very long. I also think that the Liberals will live to regret having entered into a coalition, in effect if not in name, with the Bloc which is widely reviled outside Quebec.


48 posted on 12/01/2008 11:54:00 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Fact is the present government has been seated, cabinets positions given and taken and a Throne Speech also given. All not done under King.

The article I posted (post #45) clearly states that King governed from early winter of 1926 until the spring when a scandal came up. In order to govern, he must have seated a government, with cabinets positions established, and a Throne Speech also had to have been delivered.

As an aside, I love this place.
I have learned more of the history of my country at FR, than anywhere else.

:-)

49 posted on 12/01/2008 12:31:48 PM PST by fanfan
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To: 1rudeboy
I’ll see if I can find some Canadians to help.

Three left wing parties brokered a deal before the last election to pull this stunt if Harper won. One of the three parties is a separatist party that want to break the country up. They are bringing the gov't down for really no legitimate reasone - the Conservatives delivered a minor budget update. This is hardly a reason to dissolve parliament. The Governer General is a hardcore leftist and a separatist who was installed into power by the Liberals before they lost the election to power. All their ducks were lined up, she will not side with Stephen Harper and will dissolve Parliament.

The three parties usually hate each other. This is in fact a left wing Coup D'etat. Democracy in Canada will take a massive blow. Prime Minister Harper was democratically elected, in fact, he increased his number of seats. This is little more than a power grab by the left, with the media totally complicit.

50 posted on 12/02/2008 8:00:10 AM PST by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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