Posted on 11/28/2008 6:19:24 PM PST by Shermy
NEW DELHI: The gang of terrorists who wreaked mayhem in Mumbai for three days were made to believe by their Lashkar bosses that they were not being sent on a suicide mission and that they would be coming back alive.
In a sensational disclosure made by Ajmal, the jihadi nabbed alive by Mumbai cops, the group had planned to sail out on Thursday. Their recruiters had even charted out the return route for them and stored it on the GPS device which they had used to navigate their way to the Mumbai shoreline.
This suggests that the terrorists were willing to undertake a mission which they knew would be very risky, but not necessarily suicidal.
Sources said that the bait of safe return must have been used by the recruiters to convince the wavering among the group to join the audacious plot against Mumbai.
Ajmal made another important disclosure: that all terrorists were trained in marine warfare along with the special course Daura-e-Shifa conducted by the Lashkar-e-Taiba in what at once transforms the nature of the planning from a routine terror strike and into a specialized raid by commandos.
Battle-hardened ATS officials are surprised by the details of the training the terrorists were put through before being despatched for the macabre mission. This was very different from a terrorist attack, and amounted to an offensive from the seam, said a source.
Ajmal has revealed the name of his fellow jihadis all Pakistani citizens as Abu Ali, Fahad, Omar, Shoaib, Umer, Abu Akasha, Ismail, Abdul Rahman (Bara) and Abdul Rahman (Chhota).
The account of Ajmal also strengthens the doubt of the complicity of powerful elements in the Pakistani establishment. According to him, the group set off on November 21 from an isolated creek near Karachi without the deadly cargo of arms and ammunition they were to use against the innocents in Mumbai. The group received arms and ammunition on board a large Pakistani vessel which picked them up the following day. The vessel, whose ownership is now the subject of an international probe, had four Pakistanis apart from the crew.
A day later, they came across an Indian-owned trawler, Kuber, which was promptly commandeered on the seas. Four of the fishermen who were on the trawler were killed, but its skipper, or tandel in fishermen lingo, Amarjit Singh, was forced to proceed towards India. Amarjit was killed the next day, and Ismail the terrorist who was killed at Girgaum Chowpaty took the wheel.
A trained sailor, Ismail used the GPS to reach Mumbai coast on November 26. The group, however, slowed down its advance as they had reached during the day time while the landing was planned after dusk. The group shifted to inflatable boats, before disembarking at Badhwar Park in Cuffe Parade.
From there, they mandated to kill indiscriminately, particularly white foreign tourists, and spare Muslims split up into five batches. Two of them Ismail and Ajmal took a taxi to Victoria Terminus. Three other batches of two each headed for Oberoi Hotel, Cafe Leopold and Nariman House. The remaining four went to Taj Hotel.
He may have been motivated enough to kill innocents indiscriminately. In police custody, Ajmal Amir Kasab, the terrorist who was caught alive by the Mumbai police at Girgaum Chowpatty, has been forthcoming with details about the attack on Mumbai and his accomplices, all suspected Lashkar operatives from Pakistan.
Kasab, who sustained minor injuries in the police firing that killed his partner Abu Ismail (25) on Wednesday night, was produced before the Esplanade Metropolitan Magistrate on Friday. The magistrate remanded him to police custody till December 8. Incidentally, Kasab and Ismail were the two who gunned down ATS chief Hemant Karkare, additional CP Ashok Kamthe and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar.
Kasab told the police that he and 9 others got off a vessel about 10 nautical miles from Mumbai and shifted to two boats hijacked from fishermen.
One source in ATS familiar with the details of the interrogation quoted him saying that in all 16 fidayeens came to Mumbai on Wednesday. A native of Faridkot in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK), 21-year-old Kasab told police they had done a reccee of Mumbai few months ago. He said he had come along with eight of the operatives to Mumbai as students and lived in a rented room at Colaba market, a stone's throw away from Nariman House.
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/video_streaming.php
Aha!
That’s what I said earlier. They didn’t know it was a suicide mission (hence the nonsensical extra ammunition boat).
Sometimes I impress even myself!
Another live TV link from India (thanks to FReeper angkor):
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video_live.aspx?id=0
How many dead / found ?
16 fidayeens came to Mumbai on Wednesday
Sure Baby, I’ll marry you.
The video from the Taj now shows fire. Might be in a second floor restaurant.
1/2 an hour ago many explosions, guess—security throwing stun grenades into every room.
He’s told us everything he knows. It’s time to kill him and feed him to wild pigs or, hell, let the wild pigs kill him - on TV. Feed the TV signal to take over all the Al-Jazeera programming, too.
Let the survivors go back to Pakistan and tell and retell the story.
I hope India didn’t use...shudder...torture to gain this information.
Hope? Were they listening to too much 0be talk?
I disagree.
There should always be only ONE survivor and he should either have only one eye left or be blinded after what he witnesses.
I’m just a purist on these things.
Well, if this is accurate, it makes if very clear that Pakistan was in this. And I doubt if an operation of this scale could have been mounted without involvement of the Pakistani government and security.
I hope India can figure out how to deal with this, because they sure as hell can’t trust Obama to help out.
Or at least make dad a little more careful about what school he sends his son to.
Gas him in his sleep, insert three or four redundant tracking chips, use an endoscope to insert a remotely detonated bomb into his peritoneum, them make sure he escapes.
Follow to the hide out & detonate him, then come in shooting to get the rest of the pukes.
Thank you for that link. The live footage is fascinating...and chilling.
IBN says this last battle was in the “Wasabi Restaurant” of the hotel, a Japanese restaurant.
It was recently opened by one the original “Iron Chefs”
http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2008_3rd/Aug08_Morimoto.html
Indian TV is saying that all the terrorists in the Taj Hotel are now dead. I hope that’s the case.
These folks have been so brain washed by their religion and religious leaders that the sacrifice of their families would be acceptable. :-(
Well, OK - but we should make a reality TV show out of it. “Blow Up the Dumb Mooslims” could take up the slack from these now-defunct “Flip This House” shows.
India needs a second amendment, with heavy restrictions on Muslims.
“I hope India can figure out how to deal with this, because they sure as hell can’t trust Obama to help out.”
Oh. Ya think?
Wow, NDTV does some darn good work! Excellent reporting as it happens, I need to book mark these folks. Our people could learn a few things from NDTV.
I want to know why FOX, CNN and the rest are calling these Terrorist “Gunmen”.
I’m sure no pictures of Rosie O’Donnell were involved.
Mark
Of course they lied to him too!
That's how it's done.
Next, some real torture ~ the kind frequently applied in police stations throughout the third world ~ mostly to the people who complain about the criminals!!!!
Oh, the humanity!
Knowing his whole family will have to make a sacrifice along with him may be a deterrent.
This is the reason for Israeli soldiers bulldozing the homes of the family of terrorists, but they're too civilized to actually murder the family members. Of course, when Soviet Union civilians were attacked by terrorists, the KGB and GRU had no qualms about going into a village and killing everyone in the village. Interestingly enough, terrorist attacks on the Soviets stopped.
Mark
Of course no one believes them but Pakistan has something like 2000 independent terrorist groups, most of them starving to death, and that's on a good day. It would have been a trivial problem for the guys behind the Somali pirate gangs to have hired some of Pakistan's regular terrorists to do this as punishment for India's sinking of a ship the pirates had just seized a couple of days earlier.
Until they've squeezed the truth out of these pukes (and tracked down all the credit cards on the dead guys) I'll withhold judgment. These people are all telling lies at the moment ~
Somehow that is too honorable. End it with killing them with stones, then covering them with pig blood and entrails. Let them rot in the out doors subject to the elements
Particularly sun and insects. Re-cover them regularly in pig blood and entails. That would be enough to shake their cult belief in islam.
They are animals and not part of modern society. End them like a filthy animal would be ended.
It would not have been trivial to organize all that so quickly. Probably not even doable.
GPS errors are too large to suit me. I'd use laser guided bombs, once GPS had ID's the hide-out. I prefer pureed terrorists, rather than merely crushed, with some fraction surviving. I'd scale the size of the bombs (can never be too careful) to the size of the "hide-out".
Then they hire a job.
Notice the tortuous route the terrorist claims they followed from Pakistan to India ~ that has every sign of being an ad hoc situation and not well-planned at all. Sure, the spare ammo was already in Mumbai, but someone forgot to get these guys a quick trip from Pakistan to offshore Mumbai.
Did they stand him on a bucket with a sack over his head, holding a couple of wires? And then shame him by taking a picture of him and spreading it over the internet. The perps always lie when treated this way.
We shall never defeat terrorism until we use their own methods against them. Our weakness is our PC prissiness to do so.
This is an exact account of the killer/terrorist's reactions as described by news agencies in India:
Before interrogation: I want to live.
After Interrogation: I want to die.
I'm not kidding. That is what was reported.
I’m horrified at the thought that ACLU lawyers were not made available to the poor chap.
Interesting about the training they’d received. Sounds like a cell of Islamic terrorists in the most recent Vince Flynn book, “Extreme Measures”.
A slight correction to your statement.
I’m horrified at the thought that ACLU lawyers were not made available, as targets, to the poor chap.
ping forward to G
Not to make light of this, but I’m struck how Indian newspapers use a curious mix of oh-so-proper Britishms, and slang that could have come straight out of a forties film-noir flick.
I agree.
like?
It’s hard to believe the mission at the Taj was carried out by only four guys.
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