(with a generous helping of cut/run re the Constitution)
And 'welcome' to FR
Posted on 11/29/2008 7:34:28 AM PST by Charlie Fairbanks
oooops I knew that, old and not awake, little more coffee.
I don’t care if he’s a third tnto his four year term and he’s determined to have broken the law by not being a naturalized citizn or falsified his selective service pasperwork, he must step down or be thrown out of office and prosecuted for any fraud he was behind. And no more it ‘it only matter what the meaning of ‘is’ is. Let’s not let up on this. This event, were he culpable, will change the course of history for all time.
You said — “I’ve been having a running dispute over this issue for 2 weeks with a colleague at work and 2 days ago he showed me a picture from factcheck.org with someone holding a birth certificate with the stamp and Obama’s name and the proper signature. The only thing I spotted that was suspicious was that it was a copy with an issue date of 2007. Does anyone have any background on this particular document?”
LOL..., I see you’re new to this issue... :-)
There have been so many threads on this issue on Free Republic (before and after the election), all you’ve gotta do is read them. They’ll get you up to speed...
(with a generous helping of cut/run re the Constitution)
And 'welcome' to FR
Interesting pov.Too late to challenge O’s claim of US citizenship?I don’t think so.If O intentionally deceived the American public(bogus COLB)-that’s fraud-a felony.Furthermore,if he perpetrated said fraud with the support of others(very likely)add conspiracy to commit fraud.Very serious charges with serious penalties.Just because he is president elect-he is not immune.We have every right as American citizens to verify his status.
Sheeez, this must be making the manchurian backers nervous
And then there's the Certificates of Vote, another "nominating petition" that is sent from the electors to the President of the U.S. Senate (the Vice President). Then a joint session of Congress is held to certify the election, declare the result of the vote, and declare - if there is a clear majority and no objections - who has been elected.
This process offers a number of opportunities to throw a wrench into any attempts to steal an election. Faithless electors, that is those who don't vote for the candidate for whom they were "pledged" could lead to a decision made in the House of Representatives. Or objections raised during the joint session could conceivably lead to the disqualification of a candidate. In this case Congress would have to pick from the top 3 candidates who received the most electoral votes. If Obama is disqualified, the only other choice would be McCain because no other candidate, as far as I know, received any electoral votes. Of course, the faithless electors could vote for some other candidates (other than Obama or McCain) which would put the contest between McCain and the top 2 candidates that would emerge in that situation.
By law, can the electors cast votes for candidates who are not eligible? I don't think so.
By law, can the President of the Senate accept votes from the electors for candidates who are not eligible for the office of President? I doubt it.
By law, can the President of the Senate declare as winner a person who is not eligible for the office of President? I hope not.
You said — “I keep reading about Obama spending vast sums of money on a legal team to keep his BC sealed. He’s spending $500,000, $800,000, $1M, etc. I’m just curious. Do you have a reputable source for this?”
Just count the number of different court cases there are. Figure out what some typical costs would be for lawyers, discussions and then court appearances, filing papers, etc. Add it up and you can come up with a ball-park figure.
I would say, at least a couple of hundred thousand dollars spent. Compare that to the cost of getting a copy of his birth certificate of (let’s say) around $10.
What does that tell you, when someone spends several hundred thousand dollars to keep you from verifying his natural-born status, versus spending $10 for the copy of the document...
:-)
50some posts and nary a response
just sayin'...
IF a person is going to call themselves a "CONSERVATIVE" the first thing they should want to do is to OBSERVE and FOLLOW the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America.
Barack Hussein 0bama Jr. at this point has produced a felonious Certificate of Live Birth on his website and REFUSED to show the world his actual birth certificate!
People are really suffering from RCI (Rectal Cranial Inversion) on this site lately. Every red blooded conservative should be storming the capitol at this point until the alleged American produces what is REQUIRED of him. Produce the birth certificate or the electors cannot elect him.
SNIFF
Actually, I have kept up pretty well with the issue as regards the digital fake posted before the election but it was the first time I had seen a picture of a paper copy of what looked like a birth certificate. I understand now that it’s just one more head feint.
No court should now reverse those elections and the choices of one hundred and twenty million people. To do so would be to invite legal and civil chaos. To do so would create a power vacuum which could be a national security threat. (posted by Chuck and duck.)
Ok Chuck, let me get this straight; so regardless of how the Illegal Alien POTUS Elect pulled off this hoax, we the people should roll over because a bunch of Marxist idiots could threaten violence through civil chaos? Don’t they do that already? You know, shooting up RNC HQ’s, hitting old ladies in the head with wooden posts, following GOP supporters home and beating the hell out of them!!
Yep, time to move on, nothing to see here!
Chuck, you are a total tool and probably part of the Obamatron’s misinformation squad!
>“Oh Well”, and allow our Constitution to become the “Living, Breathing” document the Democrats have claimed it to be, which is I believe a part of their goal.
Interesting that the Constitution is living while babies are not, eh? [/sarc][/cynic]
If Barry were to have lied about being a natural citizen I doubt that the courts would continue to promote the lie. Such actions could and most probably would lead to anarchy. I don’t think that we even want to go there. Either way tensions will be high but the constitution must be preserved against all odds.
>oooops I knew that, old and not awake, little more coffee.
It’s ok, I forgive you; “go forth and sin no more”. ;)
That's just not going to work for the rest of us.
moot (adjective)
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2 : deprived of practical significance : made abstract or purely academic
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this issue needs to be engaged as if our lives depended on it.
For indeed our lives do depend on it.
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