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Indians claim terrorists took orders from Pakistan
The Sunday Times ^ | November 30, 2008 | Dean Nelson, Mumbai

Posted on 11/29/2008 2:12:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: stboz

>>>Is it in Al-Qaida’s interest to have war between India and Pakistan?<<<<

Yes indeed, it is.


21 posted on 11/29/2008 2:52:50 PM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: stboz

Yes, hopefully it will come out that those responsible will be those damned Danes once again.
Pakistan has what ever it gets coming to it.
For years they have taken American billions to help fight the terrorists in their country. They’ve played us for suckers.

Uncool?
Give me a break. Bin Laden is in Pakistan. Why? Because of govt. complicity.
Pakistanis were responsible for this.


22 posted on 11/29/2008 2:53:02 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: walford

An easy solution would be for Afghanistan to blanket bomb from the west and India to blanket bomb from the east. Pakistan would be much more peaceful.


23 posted on 11/29/2008 2:53:40 PM PST by abclily
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To: Owl_Eagle

He should call for blanket bombing from both sides of Pakistan.


24 posted on 11/29/2008 2:55:14 PM PST by abclily
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To: abclily
An easy solution would be for Afghanistan to blanket bomb from the west and India to blanket bomb from the east. Pakistan would be much more peaceful.

Bombing is WAY overrated.

It has never pacified anyone, anywhere.

25 posted on 11/29/2008 2:56:38 PM PST by Jim Noble (I have read a fiery gospel, writ in burnished rows of steel)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pakistan can’t seem to control its lunatic fringe. Or maybe they just don’t bother; basically Pakistan is disintegrating. Meanwhile, we’ve elected a dope with evil pals.


26 posted on 11/29/2008 2:57:20 PM PST by hershey
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To: Jim Noble

Pacified the Japanese.


27 posted on 11/29/2008 2:59:46 PM PST by abclily
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To: abclily

Problem is, Pakistan has nukes also.

There are no easy solutions here, sorry.


28 posted on 11/29/2008 3:03:24 PM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: johnny7
It ain’t about India or Pakistan... it’s about Islam vs. the west.

It ain't Islam vs the west. It's Islam vs Everybody Else.

India, The Philippines, etc., aren't in "the west".

29 posted on 11/29/2008 3:06:59 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: abclily
Pacified the Japanese.

Yeah, it did, after four years of war, two million dead soldiers and sailors, the fleet sunk, the homeland blockaded, and the people starving.

I agree, if you exterminate the Pakistani armed forces in hand-to-hand combat, destroy their nukes and other military assets, and prevent external resupply, then you can use air power to accomplish surrender.

30 posted on 11/29/2008 3:09:25 PM PST by Jim Noble (I have read a fiery gospel, writ in burnished rows of steel)
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To: hershey
Or maybe they just don’t bother; basically Pakistan is disintegrating. Meanwhile, we’ve elected a dope with evil pals.

Who, you might add, actually proposed invading Pakistan.

31 posted on 11/29/2008 3:10:46 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The jihadists did not take orders from the established government of Pakistan, but elements within the Pakistani government, operating covertly in conjunction with other outlaw militias that are based within Pakistani territory, may have had a great deal to do with the co-ordinated high-level commando attack on Mumbai and its citizenry. There were continuous references to the attack being India’s equivalent to “9-11”, and in fact, may be the blueprint for additional attacks on other countries throughout the world.

The jihadists have been greatly invigorated by the recent election in the US, and see that as opportunity and permission to begin a series of selected and well-planned assaults on citizens of various nations around the world.


32 posted on 11/29/2008 3:11:49 PM PST by alloysteel (Molon labe! Roughly translated, "Come and take them!" referring to personal weapons.)
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To: Jim Noble

The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were very effective in winning WWII.

From what I have seen in our VIetnam police action and the Iraqi war, I am against any form of LIMITED warfare.

I say, go full steam ahead, and bombing is the way to go.

War is Hell — but there are lots worst things to contend with than death.


33 posted on 11/29/2008 3:18:13 PM PST by i_dont_chat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

AHMEDABAD: Kuber, the fishing trawler suspected to have been hijacked by terrorists in the Arabian sea near Porbandar to be used to reach Mumbai, was last spotted off Jakhau in Kutch on November 22.
Coast Guard sources say interrogations of fishermen who were in the sea during that time indicates this boat was hijacked by terrorists around that day, and the six crewmen were killed. “We also believe that captain Amarsinh Naran was forced to steer the boat and when the terrorists reached where they wanted, he was beheaded,’’ say Coast Guard sources.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Kuber_was_seized_by_Pakistan_in_2004/articleshow/3770686.cms

The article goes on to say this same ship was seized by Pakistan back in 2004.


34 posted on 11/29/2008 3:27:28 PM PST by Deo volente (On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
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To: stboz
Is it in Al-Qaida's interest to have war between India and Pakistan? You bet your ass, it is.

But not if it results in Pakistan being slagged down to glass. What happens to all those AQ training bases and zombified villagers?

35 posted on 11/29/2008 3:28:16 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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Yet Pakistan has more than 100 boats of Indian fishermen, mainly parked at Karachi port.

Great neighbors, apparently.

36 posted on 11/29/2008 3:46:32 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: BlazingArizona

Pakistan is the snakes head....melt it!


37 posted on 11/29/2008 3:52:10 PM PST by RS_Rider
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Perhaps in due time we shall find out what group(s) where actually responsible.


38 posted on 11/29/2008 4:34:37 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice.)
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To: stboz
If it gets really bad, you won't need a microwave for your popcorn.

Don't believe it.
If they both set off ALL of their nukes it wouldn't affect you at all unless you were visiting the immediate area. The left has everyone convinced that a few nukes would make the whole world uninhabitable and irradiated. That is nonsense.

Don't forget, some 1021 nukes were set off just outside of Las Vegas, at least 100 of which were above ground. People have lived there the entire time and they used to watch the mushroom clouds from Vegas hotels. The entire nuclear arsenals of BOTH India and Pakistan is between 75 & 150 small nukes.

The Nevada Test Site is a United States Department of Energy reservation located in Nye County, Nevada, about 65 miles (105 km) northwest of the City of Las Vegas, near 37°07′N 116°03′W / 37.117, -116.05.

During the 1950s, the mushroom clouds from these tests could be seen for almost 100 miles in either direction, including the city of Las Vegas, where the tests became tourist attractions. Americans headed for Las Vegas to witness the distant mushroom clouds that could be seen from the downtown hotels.

Another myth is that our cities would be uninhabitable for hundreds of years. I disagree.

Hiroshima, Japan today.
Nearly 3 million people live in Hiroshima Prefecture, and over 1 million in the city itself.

The entire Indian and Pakistani nuclear arsenals combined are less than what was set off just 65 miles outside of Vegas above ground.

India:
Though India has not made any official statements about the size of it nuclear arsenal, the NRDC estimates that India has a stockpile of approximately 30-35 nuclear warheads and claims that India is producing additional nuclear materials. Joseph Cirincione at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (3) estimates that India has produced enough weapons-grade plutonium for 50-90 nuclear weapons and a smaller but unknown quantity of weapons-grade uranium. Weapons-grade plutonium production takes place at the Bhabha Atomic Research Center, which is home to the Cirus reactor acquired from Canada, to the indigenous Dhruva reactor, and to a plutonium separation facility.

Pakistan:
The Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) estimates that Pakistan has built 24-48 HEU-based nuclear warheads, and Carnegie reports that they have produced 585-800 kg of HEU, enough for 30-55 weapons. Pakistan's nuclear warheads are based on an implosion design that uses a solid core of highly enriched uranium and requires an estimated 15-20 kg of material per warhead. According to Carnegie, Pakistan has also produced a small but unknown quantity of weapons grade plutonium, which is sufficient for an estimated 3-5 nuclear weapons.

39 posted on 11/29/2008 4:47:19 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Marine_Uncle
From the BBC:

Indian allegations alarm Pakistan

40 posted on 11/29/2008 7:21:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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