He's Not Black

WAPOOPED ^ | 11-30-08 | Marie Arana

[Nick Thimmesch]

He is also half white.

Unless the one-drop rule still applies, our president-elect is not black.

We call him that -- he calls himself that -- because we use dated language and logic. After more than 300 years and much difficult history, we hew to the old racist rule: Part-black is all black. Fifty percent equals a hundred. There's no in-between.

That was my reaction when I read these words on the front page of this newspaper the day after the election: "Obama Makes History: U.S. Decisively Elects First Black President."

[Dallas59]

Dear Leader is Mulatto.

[Vendome]

I have a friend who is from Johannesburg, South Africa and White. We were at a party and she announced that she had become a citizen along with her sister. A very lefty friend quipped “So, how does it feel to be an African-American?”.

Very funny!

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Well if the slave owners did not make the rule, it would not be used today. Slave owners have really messed up America in many ways. Thank God the North had the sense to fix the travesty.

Well if the slave owners democrat slavers did not make the rule, it would not be used today. Slave owners KKK democrats have really messed up America in many ways. Thank God the North Republicans had the sense to fix the travesty.

[syriacus]

because we use dated language and logic.

More proof that libs/progressives are REALLY reactionaries

[ROCKLOBSTER]

when a beagle and dachshund mate, what you get is a mess. When Stanley and who ever the father was mated, that is what we now have...

Barky the Mutt!

[Ozone34]

“They did the same with Tiger Woods, who is only 1/4 th black. I think he is is actually 3/4 Asian (Thai) or is that 1/4 white, 1/4 black and 1/2 Asian? Well, you can see how silly this is getting!”

Tiger used to refer to himself as “Cablinasian”. Some years ago on a Sunday talk show, General Colin Powell was being interviewed regarding presidential aspirations and referred to Tiger’s racial designation but said he preferred himself to be regarded as an “African-American”.

[Red_Devil 232]

" Obviously your from the South so no use arguing about with a person that was for slavery."

How old are ... 10?

[FReepaholic]

...Obviously your from the South so no use arguing about with a person that was for slavery...

You're an idiot.

[Anonymous Political Junky]

NO, the north did not end slavery. What they did was to be the aggressor toward the southern states. Certain southern states had already made plans to get rid of slavery before the north ever started their farce of a civil war. I say farce because once the states seceded they were no longer part of the U.S., therefor no civil war. In MO, the war was going on for about a decade before the official date of the war started. The war was about states’ rights and it was not really about slavery, except toward the end of it, when Lincoln realized that he had to do something to be able to win. As usual it was all politics and some great wonderful thing that Lincoln wanted to do to purge the south of slavery. It would probably help you if you read up on the history of the country and especially the War of Northern Aggression and then you might actually get educated about what was really was going on in the country at that time.

[FReepaholic]

...How old are ... 10? ...

Just another Obama voter.

[reg45]

In 1865 the Republicans freed the slaves; in 1933 the Democrats bought them back.

[aberaussie]

If I remember my history correctly, Lincoln only freed the slaves in the states which had seceded, not in the states that remained in the union. His concern was for politics, not for freeing the slaves.

[Salamander]

You are correct.

[PalmettoMason]

Obviously your from the South so no use arguing about with a person that was for slavery.

Humblegunner was for slavery? Gee, that would require him to be...what... 150 years old?

Congratulations on a long life, HG!

Over and out.

Effective way to back out of an argument when you know that you're fixing to get your a$$ handed to you for a hat.

Silly, but effective.

[Oratam]

I bought a slim booklet, barely legible mimeographed pages actually, with a title like "The Six (or was it Eight?) Black Presidents of the United States" in a little shop on 125th Street in Harlem in the late '80s or very early '90s.

The author, whose name I can't recall, claimed the current president was part black, but wouldn't name him. I assumed he was referring to LBJ based on the age of this little pamphlet. The claims sound a lot like those in your links . . . particularly the stuff on Harding. It's all very interesting but not very scholarly.

[imjimbo]

You make some good points. If true emancipation was really Lincoln’s aim, why were the slaves in non-secessionist states EXEMPTED-?! Lincoln’s war of Northern Agression was really the beginning of the end of the U.S. Constitution. The Second American Revolution was unsuccesful.

[weegee]

Technically, you probably aren't even caucasian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian

Caucasian may refer to:

Caucasian, an adjective describing anything from the Caucasus region
Peoples of the Caucasus, humans from the Caucasus region
Languages of the Caucasus, languages spoken in the Caucasus region
Caucasian race, a racial classification of human beings
Brown Caucasian (cattle), a cattle breed
North Caucasian (pig), a pig breed
Caucasian Snowcock, a type of bird
Caucasian Shepherd Dog, a dog breed
The Caucasian Chalk Circle, a play by Bertolt Brecht
Caucasian, a nickname for a White Russian (cocktail)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

The Caucasian race, sometimes the Caucasoid race, is a term of racial classification, coined around 1800 by Johann Friedrich Blumenbach for the "white" race of mankind, which he derived from the region of the Caucasus.[1] It was thus in use as denoting populations of Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, and parts of Central and South Asia, or more narrowly people of European origin.[2] The concept's existence is based on the now obsolete typological method of racial classification.[3][4]

The term Caucasian originated as one of the racial categories recognized by 19th century craniology and is derived from the region of the Caucasus mountains[5].The concept of a "Caucasian race" or Varietas Caucasia was first proposed under those names by the German scientist and classical anthropologist, Johann Friedrich Blumenbach (1752-1840).[5] His studies based the classification of the Caucasian race primarily on skull features, which Blumenbach claimed were optimized by the Caucasian Peoples...

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19th century classifications of the peoples of India considered the Dravidians of non-Caucasoid stock, as "Australoid" (Thomas Huxley 1865) or a separate "Dravida" race (Edgar Thurston) and assumed a gradient of miscegenation of high-caste Caucasoid "Aryans" and indigenous Dravidians. Carleton S. Coon in his 1939 The Races of Europe classifies the Dravidians as Caucasoid as well, due to their "Caucasiod skull structure" and other physical traits (e.g. noses, eyes, hair), in his 1969 The Living Races of Man stating that "India is the easternmost outpost of the Caucasian racial region".

With the turn away from racial theory in the late 20th century, the term Caucasian as a racial classification fell into disuse in Europe. Thus, in the United Kingdom, Caucasian is more likely than in the United States to describe people from the Caucasus, although it may still be used as a racial classification...

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According to Leonard Lieberman, Rodney C. Kirk, and Alice Littlefield, the concept of race has been all but completely rejected by modern mainstream anthropology...

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In the United States, Caucasian has been mainly a distinction, based on skin color, for a group commonly called White Americans, as defined by the government and Census Bureau.

Between 1917 and 1965, immigration to the USA was restricted by "national origins quota". The Supreme Court in United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind (1923) decided Indians – unlike Europeans and Middle Easterners – were Caucasian but not 'white', because most common people did not consider them to be white.

[UCANSEE2]

A fine point is being missed.

Is he being regarded as BLACK, or black?

[vidbizz]

ny good books that you would recommend on the subject?

[Diana in Wisconsin]

I don’t care what color he is on the outside. It’s his RED inner-core that bothers me.