Posted on 11/30/2008 7:24:51 AM PST by ckilmer
What law and what clarification ? The law that was in effect at the time of his birth is the only law that applies unless changed retroactively, which it wasn't.
If a tree falls in the forest...
“The names is Gaines—Dick GAINES.”
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That gave me a chuckle.
Like “Bond, James Bond”.
I like that format.
I might start introducing myself that way!
Keep on keeping-on, Marine, I wish you well.
Obama’s not going to release his original birth cert. because it will prove he’s not a natural born US citizen. “So screw the Constitution, he’s a Democrat”.
Semper Appreciated!
Best
Dick Gaines
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Then December 5 at the Supreme Court. Go back to sleep.
What I'm saying is the rule is so narrow and did not anticipate teenage moms not having the possibility to acheive 5 years of US residency after the age of 14. This could not have been the intent of Congress. The purpose was to exclude those born of foreign-dwelling moms (of US citizenship), not to DQ teenage moms.
No, I'm not a lawyer. I'll shut up now. Does intent matter?
Nice try.
The fact that people like yourself, DU and Daily Kos are putting so much effort (disguised as "help") in down-playing it, convinces me there IS something to it.
If there's no fire, then why are you libs dispatching so many firemen to put it out?
Thanks. Yes, I remember reading all of that but it is all moot since it is ultimately up to the Supreme Court to determine what the intent of the founders was in framing the Constitution. It is what it is. If the rats don’t like it, the Constitution contains it’s own tool for changes, AKA the amendment process.
FRegards,
LH
Whoops. Paragraphs are my friend. Stand by
What's your read on it? As I see it the electors can vote for anyone they want, if BHO is discovered to be ineligible they would probably rally around Biden or HRC. If nobody gets 270 votes the decision falls to the House, which again would result in either President Biden or Clinton being sworn in.
If Obama is sworn in and later found to be ineligible, if he doesn't resign, he would have to be impeached by the House and removed from office by the Senate. (Not holding my breath. I suspect I know how senators McCain, Graham & Franken would vote.) If they did remove him from office, Biden becomes President.
I'm not sure if this is covered by the 20th Amendment which states "if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;...". No matter what Obama has been calling himself, he is not yet the president elect; that will occur when the Electors cast their votes. Also, remember that the electors cast votes separately for President and VP. IF SCOTUS decides to rule, it could become quite interesting.
Uh, no.
The electors can vote for whomever they wish. They can even vote for someone who is not eligible. You might notice that the 20th Amendment to the US Constitution considers exactly this possibility.
If Obama were somehow exposed and forced to withdraw between now and the time the electors cast their ballots, my guess is that the Democratic Party would decide whom their electors should vote for along the lines of whatever rules they have for their candidate becoming incapacitated between the general election and the vote of the electors.
ML/NJ
Amendment 20 - Presidential, Congressional Terms.
1.The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.
2.The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day
3.If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified
4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.
5.Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.
6. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.
Grandma can't travel? What language or languages does Grandma Sarah speak? And where is the evidence that she does not speak Swahili?
Swahili, Kiswahili in that language, is spoken by the majority of Kenyans. Many also speak English. She most likely also speaks Dholuo, aka Luo, the language of the Luo tribe.
In fact, it turns out their is some indication that Grandma Sarah does speak another language other than Luo.
From:
Why Obama Wept for His Father
The Nation (Nairobi)
10 June 2008
Steve Dougherty
Nairobi
When he met Dorsila, the youngest child of his great-great-grandfather Obama, who was in turn the great-great-great grandson of Owiny, the legendary Luo warrior whose armies defeated the Bantu nine generations before the white man came to Kisumu, she was startled when he pulled out a Bic to light his cigarette.
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Dorsila, who spoke only Luo, listened nonetheless as Obama and Auma's "Granny", the same step-grandmother, now in her eighties, who Senator Obama and his wife and children met with in the summer of 2006, shared the oral history of their family.
Thus the conversation must have been in some language other than Luo. Given that most Kenyans speak Swahili, at least at some level that would seem to be the most likely language. Swahili is one of two official languages of Kenya the other being English. Most literate Kenyans, around 85% of those over 15, about 80% for women, do speak Swahili in addition to their tribal language.
Why are his people tripping over themselves to change this part of the Constitution?
His sister also has a short form COLB from Hawaii, and they admit that she was in fact born in Indonesia.
Obama & Co. are so arrogant and "above it all", that they continue to make huge errors in judgment, and are leaving gaping holes in the tale they're weaving, while bungling actual criminal capers like the forged bc.
It probably never occurred to them how it would look to outsiders, that they would elect to spend a fortune to defend against releasing a basic document that ordinary Americans have to produce to get a driver's license. Especially since withholding that document could potentially keep Obama out of office.
This is far worse than Nixon's withholding of the Watergate Tapes. Nixon's stalling only amplified the suspicion and the public outrage, and look where that got him. Obama is headed for the same fate.
Obama's stalling and use of the courts to stop the public release of information that is critical to establishing his eligibility is hubris and arrogance at its worst. Our estimation of Obama's character has obviously been spot on, all along.
Expect Obama and his merry band of criminals to make even more mistakes in the coming months.
I've noticed that as well.
When I see the 2008 sign-up dates, coupled with what they think is cleverly veiled leftist propaganda, I smell a RAT.
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