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Palin a GOP star, but little liked by center (Rollins:"Palin=Quayle")
Pollitico ^ | 11-30-08 | David Kuhn

Posted on 11/30/2008 5:12:17 PM PST by Wegotsarah.com

With his runoff race ending on Tuesday, Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss called in the party's big guns—and Sarah Palin answered the call, stumping across the state today and tomorrow. It's a clear sign of her stature within the party.

Palin’s flash emergence on the national stage has left her as well positioned as any Republican to make a serious run for the GOP nomination in 2012, yet waning support from the political center may threaten her presidential ambitions, according to a Politico analysis of public polling.

A Gallup poll of Republican voters released last Friday found Palin atop a field of ten Republicans, including 2008 primary candidates Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, in a hypothetical 2012 matchup.

Fully two thirds of Republicans, including Republican-leaning independents, want Palin to run for president in 2012, twice as many as back Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, who has already made one post-election visit to Iowa, and about 20 points ahead of former Speaker Newt Gingrich.

But even as Palin exploded over a few weeks from relative obscurity to a bigger star within the party than its own presidential nominee, Democrats and independents quickly soured on her, she became one of the most divisive figures in politics.

In mid November, Gallup found that only 45 percent of Americans hoped Palin is "a major national political figure for many years to come." About three-quarters of Republicans hoped so, three-quarters of Democrats hoped not, as did 53 percent of independents.

Exit polls also showed that 64 percent of independents viewed Palin as unqualified to be president, with nine of ten Democrats and one in four Republicans agreeing.

"Palin's image, being the way it is for independents, puts her at a distinct disadvantage from a general election standpoint," said Tony Fabrizio, a veteran GOP strategist. "But it wouldn't be the first time the hard-core base ran off the cliff."


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In the end, though, Rollins expects that Palin "will be very similar to [Dan] Quayle."

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Use to feel sorry for poor Ed- his young wife ran off with another guy. Now, I understand- why stay with a man who's delusional? -:)

1 posted on 11/30/2008 5:12:17 PM PST by Wegotsarah.com
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To: Wegotsarah.com

the “republican middle” - the part of the plumbing between the seat and the septic tank.


2 posted on 11/30/2008 5:14:31 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

3 posted on 11/30/2008 5:14:37 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Sarah has to fight her way just like everyone else.


4 posted on 11/30/2008 5:14:58 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com
Now, I understand- why stay with a man who's delusional? -:)

A yep, delusional -- the party is at war with the Conservatives. Has no chance of winning without them, wants to make them like Democrat lite.

5 posted on 11/30/2008 5:15:16 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

If the “center” runs things, the “right” will leave.

We have seen what the center has gotten us - a Democrat Congress and White House.

Time they shut their traps or move to the Democrat party where they truly belong. Of course, that party is so far left they wouldn’t want them anyway. So, perhaps the “Center” Republican’s and the old-time Democrats could form their own party.

But, they have ceased to have a voice in who or who will not have a future in this party.


6 posted on 11/30/2008 5:15:20 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Wegotsarah.com
About three-quarters of Republicans hoped so, three-quarters of Democrats hoped not, as did 53 percent of independents.

That's because the 3/4 of the republicans and 3/4 of the democrats understand her potential.

7 posted on 11/30/2008 5:15:59 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Last I heard, Dan Quayle was Chief Investment Officer at Cerebus. Not a bad gig for a “moron.”


8 posted on 11/30/2008 5:16:04 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

If you’ll recall, back in the 1970s the media and the so-called “centrists” dismissed Ronald Reagan as “just a B-grade actor”. I have no confidence in Rollins’ predictions.


9 posted on 11/30/2008 5:16:18 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Swiftboating: Revealing inconvenient truths about Democrat candidates)
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To: Wegotsarah.com
Exit polls also showed that 64 percent of independents viewed Palin as unqualified to be president, with nine of ten Democrats and one in four Republicans agreeing.
This is because of MSM portraying her in nothing but a negative light, and limited exposure in a positive light.
If Palin, who has tons more actual experience in being an exective is “unqualified”, Obama isn't qualified to run a kool aid stand.
10 posted on 11/30/2008 5:16:47 PM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 26)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Sarah will bring back the conservatives, then the center can take their rightful places with the left.


11 posted on 11/30/2008 5:17:08 PM PST by FrankR (A lie would have no sense unless the truth were felt dangerous.- Alfred Adler)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

then she will have to fight through the MSM. If she can’t handle the media, we’ll lose.


12 posted on 11/30/2008 5:18:55 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Odd, I don’t recall a similar story on 0bama.

So this is what the moderates are down to, saying that Sarah attracts the base.


13 posted on 11/30/2008 5:19:08 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (Liberal + Democrat = Socialist)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Tony Fabrizio and Rollins ought to be waterboarded.


14 posted on 11/30/2008 5:19:15 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Obama is bringing in every crook and bumbler he can to assure consistency in his message.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

The center moderates are the ones who got us in the mess we are now. Screw them and their RINO candidates!


15 posted on 11/30/2008 5:19:58 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

“Palin’s image, being the way it is for independents, puts her at a distinct disadvantage from a general election standpoint,” said Tony Fabrizio, a veteran GOP strategist. “But it wouldn’t be the first time the hard-core base ran off the cliff.”

Stuff it, RINO.


16 posted on 11/30/2008 5:21:41 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

The GOP base and many on FR have fallen in love with Palin because of her life choices. She choose life for her dow syndrome baby and she is a hunter. Palin’s life story champions small town America.

Unfortunately, Palin’s small town American values are a turn off to suburbia. With problems in Iraq, housing market, and the stock market, suburbanites now perceive the GOP as a country club for Southern Baptists who care only about banning gay marriage and little else. The media’s focus on Palin’s social conservativism reinforce that sterotype.

In the future, conservatives need to reconnect with surburban voters by proving to them that they can be trusted with solving problems. The coming budget problems facing several states will provide opportunities for our rising stars like Palin, Jindal, Crist, and Sanford to show to the world that being a Republican does not equal dumb hick.


17 posted on 11/30/2008 5:21:47 PM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
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To: ABQHispConservative
So this is what the moderates are down to, saying that Sarah attracts the base.

They're trying to take her out. They know she has the grassroots locked up at this stage.

And the vermin from the MSM are happy to help. Their folks want to take her out as well.

18 posted on 11/30/2008 5:22:06 PM PST by Al B.
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To: xcamel
...the “republican middle”...

The exact part of the party that we have to jettison.

19 posted on 11/30/2008 5:22:18 PM PST by realdifferent1 ("If you saw Atlas,...what would you tell him to do?"... "To shrug.")
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To: Blogger
But, they have ceased to have a voice in who or who will not have a future in this party.

I hope that is true. However, I am not certain that it is.

20 posted on 11/30/2008 5:22:26 PM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

If people knew Palin’s record, the middle would like her. The problem is that the MSM didn’t report her record because it didn’t fit their narrative of her being an ignorant extremist. The MSM’s main job is making politics safe for liberal Harvard, Yale, and Princeton graduates.


21 posted on 11/30/2008 5:22:28 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Diogenesis

I think Rollins is referring to Joe Biden, Joe Biden is like Dan Quayle. JOBS=3 letters LOL. International Crisis, and of course FDR going on TV in 1929 By the way, where the heck is good ol Joe, still hiding in the closet? Sarah IS the future of the Republican party, Sarah and Bobby Jindal is gonna be a sick combo. By 2012, people will be begging for Sarah, pleading for Sarah, why, because by then people will finally realize that Obama IS Jimmy Carter and that our country and constitution are officially down the toilet.


22 posted on 11/30/2008 5:23:12 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: RightWingConspirator

The media portrayed Reagan as an “idiot” “brain dead” and “nothing but an actor” and look what Reagan became, one of our most cherished presidents. They are treating Sarah the SAME way they treated Reagan


23 posted on 11/30/2008 5:23:12 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ari-freedom

She has already fought through and beaten the MSM. That is why a month after the election, they are still trashing her, because Sarah does not care about these liberal morons. She doesn’t listen to them, that’s why they are so pissed, they bash her and bash her and she still wakes up in the morning with a smile on her face, they can’t stand that


24 posted on 11/30/2008 5:23:23 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

“Obama isn’t qualified to run a kool aid stand.”

Thats right.
He is good at handing out the Kool-Aid though, him and his media whores.


25 posted on 11/30/2008 5:24:06 PM PST by mkcc30 (Reagan's shadow had more substance than Obama!)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Who cares what that little gnome rollins thinks.

Toad


26 posted on 11/30/2008 5:25:19 PM PST by wardaddy (Monarchists for Palin 2012)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Rollins is a liberal party destroyer!!!!


27 posted on 11/30/2008 5:25:50 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Wegotsarah.com

When I hear the name “Ed Rollins” I think of Summers Eve ads...


28 posted on 11/30/2008 5:27:07 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Obama/Biden...change you can laugh at!)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
We must also remember that predictions are by 2012 the MSM is going to be a shadow of itself.

This battle has to start here on the internet.

BTW, I'm still working on my little project concerning WEAK DEMOCRAT SENATORS, and my first choice, Senator Carper of Delaware, conveniently got himself involved in a love triangle/murder situation years ago when he was Governor.

He had a young lady in his office who was secretly schtuping a Doctor Tom Copano. Carper encouraged her to date another guy he knew (from politics I believe).

Next thing you know his young appointments secretary was dead at the hands of this Copano guy.

So much for his abilities as a yenta ~ but I guess that's what passes for quality in Delaware.

This evening I watched the Dewey Beach Delaware cops busting young women drunk on the beach.

Exciting stuff. Then there was the toddler with the missing mommy, and the woman who stabbed her husband.

There's some stuff coming down out there, and this Carper guy was in it even if he wasn't aware of it.

Wonder how many other people got set up by Carper and ended up dead?

29 posted on 11/30/2008 5:27:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Wegotsarah.com

I just don’t see any of those numbers as all that bad.

She has been vetted, reamed and barely introduced, all in less than three months.

She is still America’s most popular Governor, she is still in office and gets to campaign in 2010 for reelection as Governor, which will help her image more and put her back into the spotlight.
She is immensely popular within her party, and is ready to start a well funded, well supported campaign to introduce herself to the nation over the next four years.

I think that she is positioned very well.


30 posted on 11/30/2008 5:28:18 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Rollins worked for Perot and Huckster........


31 posted on 11/30/2008 5:29:08 PM PST by rrrod
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To: Wegotsarah.com

I wonder if any of these “exit polls” asked if anyone thought the Chicago community organizer was qualified to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! I really doubt it. The pollsters wouldn’t want to rock their “messiah’s” boat.


32 posted on 11/30/2008 5:29:14 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For more information on America's "new direction" read The Road to Serfdom. by Friedrich A. Hayek.)
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To: rrrod
Palin a GOP star, but little liked by center (Rollins:"Palin=Quayle")

For me, Palin is closer to Reagan than to anyone else since Reagan.
33 posted on 11/30/2008 5:30:04 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Yep!


34 posted on 11/30/2008 5:31:35 PM PST by rrrod
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To: rrrod
Rollins worked for Perot and Huckster........

Explains a lot. Thanks.

35 posted on 11/30/2008 5:31:53 PM PST by Al B.
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To: Wegotsarah.com
The so-called "center" is populated by weak minded fools who lack the depth of knowledge or conviction to choose a coherent world view. They sway back and forth with the political breezes, and are susceptible to being manipulated by cynical politicians (for proof, see: Obama, Barack).

I have more respect (in a way) for a hard-core lefty who, though wrong, at least knows what he believes. It particularly galls me when a "centrist" refers to himself as a "moderate." What does a moderate believe in?... moderation?

"Moderate" is an adjective, not a noun. You can be a moderate Republican, or a moderate Democrat, but you can't be simply a moderate. The term is meaningless by itself.

36 posted on 11/30/2008 5:31:59 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: xcamel
the “republican middle” - the part of the plumbing between the seat and the septic tank.

So true! That's why I left the "Stupid Party" shortly after they left Clinton skate free after the impeachment hearings.

37 posted on 11/30/2008 5:32:33 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: Wegotsarah.com

We let the media define Quayle, and now they want to do the same thing to Palin. At least some of us aren’t sitting still for it. We were wrong to let them get away with it with Dan, and shame on us if we buy into it this time.

They smeared Quayle, they smeared Bork, and Judge Thomas. They almost impeached Reagan, forget that? Eight years of non-stop smear attacks on Chimpy BushHitler. Now Palin.

There are Repubs who buy into the smears, and think if only we’d picked someone else, the smears would stop. They aren’t going to stop. It isn’t Quayle, Bork, Reagan, Thomas, Bush, Palin thats the problem, its us. Its us they hate, and anyone we put up there is going to get the same treatment.

To compound the smears by turning our backs on the people they have smeared, just becaues they smeared them, is weak; its the stuff of wimps.


38 posted on 11/30/2008 5:33:39 PM PST by marron
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“She has already fought through and beaten the MSM.”

that’s why she is now VP, right? Her appeal simply wasn’t enough to win in the end.


39 posted on 11/30/2008 5:38:34 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Democrats don’t like Palin??? I am shocked!


40 posted on 11/30/2008 5:41:15 PM PST by nobama08
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To: GOPsterinMA

My thoughts exactly.

Isn’t he one of the feminine products that helped throw Katharine Harris under the bus?

I don’t care if she ends up being the nominee in ‘12 or not, with her ability to draw crowds and raise money if they push her away we can figure on losing BIG the next couple of election cycles. Bet on it.


41 posted on 11/30/2008 5:45:32 PM PST by redk
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To: Wegotsarah.com
In the end, though, Rollins expects that Palin "will be very similar to [Dan] Quayle."

I don't think so. Sarah seems to have much more going for her, professionally and personally, than Dan Quayle ever did.

42 posted on 11/30/2008 5:49:00 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: ari-freedom

You don’t like her, we get it. Your posts are juvenile and not the least bit constructive. Frankly it’s getting boring. Maybe you should find a candidate to support instead of complaining about her.


43 posted on 11/30/2008 5:49:50 PM PST by redk
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To: SuziQ

Again, Dan Quayle is CIO at Cerebus. Sarah is a provincial politician who still has much to prove. I know we love her here, but let’s not fall victim to “group think.”


44 posted on 11/30/2008 5:49:53 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Wegotsarah.com
But even as Palin exploded over a few weeks from relative obscurity to a bigger star within the party than its own presidential nominee, Democrats and independents quickly soured on her...

Of course they did, because they recognized immediately what a threat she would be to them, in the future.

45 posted on 11/30/2008 5:50:54 PM PST by SuziQ
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Rollins:”Palin=Quayle”

Rollins=JumpedTheShark


46 posted on 11/30/2008 5:52:24 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ("I've got a bracelet too, Jim")
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To: xcamel

Palin not even close to Quayle.

If we let the media do to her what it did to Quayle then we deserve what we get.


47 posted on 11/30/2008 5:54:23 PM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Gee, the liberal Democrats/Independents don’t like Palin. What a shocker.


48 posted on 11/30/2008 5:55:23 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: CPT Clay

That’s ultimately Sarah’s call. It is SHE who must talk AROUND and THROUGH the media. If all she does is take it and pull a “poor widdle me” routine, then she deserves to become a historical footnote.


49 posted on 11/30/2008 5:55:46 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Gov. Palin has core beliefs which she doesn’t apologize for, and more guts than anyone I’ve seen in years. To take all the attacks dished up by the media, and others, also shows she has the skin of a rhinoserous, as opposed to a RINO. The only way she will go away is if SHE choses to go away. I hope she stays around for a long time, even if it just is to drive the media crazy. Look for a highly successful fundraiser tonight in Georgia, followed by a very successful campaign swing resulting in maximum capacity crowds. On Tuesday after the governors meeting with obama in Philadelphia, watch who the media flocks around. Give her a little more time, and she’ll learn how to handle the media just fine. Giver her a few more years of political seasoning, and she’ll be ready to go.


50 posted on 11/30/2008 5:56:04 PM PST by euram
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